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Re: General IDW Godzilla Comic Discussion

Postby KaijuX » Sun Feb 12, 2012 3:26 am

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KaijuX wrote:Okay now kiddies. Don't make the big guns fire away now. If you two are going to argue your daylights out, then take it somewhere else. I think there are even more people who aren't interested in two idiots pointlessly argue their butts off. So either stop or go somewhere else.


Somebody's got a superiority complex, methinks. IF no one on here is interested in listening to two "idiots", then I don't know why anybody is even on a forum; they breed idiocy.

I love how when everybody is just bashing on it, nobody says anything. Everytime I throw in my two cents to counter those sentiments I get the slag-off from all those people.

If I can't come here and defend the comic then why is it everyone can come here and bash it?

Does. Not. Compute.

You don't like what I have to say? Fine, scroll on down, won't hurt me in the least, I assure you. But don't tell me I can't defend it; Godzilla fans tend to defend their questionable choices of what is good, what is bad. That's all I and everyone else on here is doing. Go single someone else out.

Oh, and BTW, my posts were more on topic than your post was. Nanny-nanny-boo-boo.

I like it, I buy it. You don't like it, don't buy it. It really is as simple as that for me.

Have any of you posters who decry me for "arguing" or being a "fanboy" even read my posts? If you did, you'd realize that I only chime in when people post totally unreasonable comments about the comic that are in no way constructive nor enlightening.

I've never called this book the second coming but I see no reason for it to take such a beating around here other than pedantic personal opinions/expectations of what their beloved Godzilla "should" be. Yet I'm the unreasonable fanboy.

Right. It's called either irony or hypocrisy or maybe both. I'll let you take your pick of the lesser evil.

You should really look back on yourself. Too much on your brain and giving yourself too much stress with such a silly topic. I suggest just look on back and reflect with yourself for a second.

Also, my question is who are you defending the Big G from? Other fanboys? Dude, arguing with them is like living on the sun; it's not going to work. If they're going to bash the living heck out of KOM, fine. Let them. There are lovers here too. But you can't stop the people who are bashing it right now from, well... Bashing it. I'll repeat: take a good look at yourself CA. Your just about to battle with a brother, I am a liker of KOM. And I don't want greater or lesser evils here. I just want you to realize and repent from your ways before it gets out of hand. And if you decide to rage... We'll take it somewhere else.

And I forgot one thing on my first post. It's there now, but I'll put it here.

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Re: General IDW Godzilla Comic Discussion

Postby ebirahsmeg1 » Sun Feb 12, 2012 6:03 am

Here is a 7 page sneak peak:

http://www.mtv.com/geek/comic/issue/3070/godzilla-kingdom-of-monsters-12.jhtml

As far as others who complain about those who (rightfully) rip this comic a new one, I'll respond to this later as I have a long 14 hour work day ahead of me tomorrow...I have *ALOT* to say about the short-comings of KOM. Stay tuned...
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Re: General IDW Godzilla Comic Discussion

Postby KaijuX » Sun Feb 12, 2012 6:51 am

Whew, that's a lot of work. I can only say good luck to you. But I think kaijukurt already mentioned the preview.
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Re: General IDW Godzilla Comic Discussion

Postby Captain Aktion » Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:11 am

Oh don't worry about me, KaijuX, I'm not stressing over this, trust me.

And contrary to how some of you probably feel about me, I'm not here to argue and fight, but you still can't tell me how this works out to be right:

I read people bashing the comic. I respond in it's defense. I get shit for defending it. When I respond to the shit, I'm a dick. Wha...?

Again, does not compute.
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Re: General IDW Godzilla Comic Discussion

Postby SuperSaiyan4Godzilla » Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:20 am

Captain Aktion wrote:I don't know why more of the posters on here don't submit story-treatments/outlines to IDW.

Many of you obviously know how to, and seem to think you can, create the absolute perfect Godzilla comic that will please 100% of the fanbase across the board while making all of the seasoned industry professionals who have actually produced said material look like chumps and noobs.

I mean, if I had that kind of talent and insight into the sales and marketing labyrinth that is the comic book industry I sure as hell wouldn't be sitting in a forum merely talking about what I'd do and whining about how others are "doing it all wrong". I'd pull up my bootstraps and get to work and go make me some of that Mark Millar money, know what I'm sayin'?

Just, when you write your comics, guys, be sure that I like it, okay? I don't care if anybody else likes it or not, alright? This is Godzilla we're talking about and as a fan, my opinion is the only one that really matters, get it?


Joe Quesada and Joseph Loeb. And Mark Millar isn't as good as he once was.

Look those two up and see how they just about ruined perfectly good franchises.

Just because you're in the bizz doesn't mean you're good.
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Re: General IDW Godzilla Comic Discussion

Postby RedZillaKing » Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:26 am

Are you talking about that Spiderman storyline? Cuz, yeah... That was silly.
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Re: General IDW Godzilla Comic Discussion

Postby Captain Aktion » Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:50 am

SuperSaiyan4Godzilla wrote:
Captain Aktion wrote:I don't know why more of the posters on here don't submit story-treatments/outlines to IDW.

Many of you obviously know how to, and seem to think you can, create the absolute perfect Godzilla comic that will please 100% of the fanbase across the board while making all of the seasoned industry professionals who have actually produced said material look like chumps and noobs.

I mean, if I had that kind of talent and insight into the sales and marketing labyrinth that is the comic book industry I sure as hell wouldn't be sitting in a forum merely talking about what I'd do and whining about how others are "doing it all wrong". I'd pull up my bootstraps and get to work and go make me some of that Mark Millar money, know what I'm sayin'?

Just, when you write your comics, guys, be sure that I like it, okay? I don't care if anybody else likes it or not, alright? This is Godzilla we're talking about and as a fan, my opinion is the only one that really matters, get it?


Joe Quesada and Joseph Loeb. And Mark Millar isn't as good as he once was.

Look those two up and see how they just about ruined perfectly good franchises.

Just because you're in the bizz doesn't mean you're good.


And as stupid and scary of an idea as this may be, I'm sure that there are fans of MJ-less Spiderman and fans of Rulk too.

You guys want to argue taste? I've said this before and I'll reiterate; we're talking comics and Godzilla here. There are plenty of places full of very learned people who would laugh in our faces if we tried to talk high-and-mighty about Godzilla. Taste. You don't get to dictate it any more than I do or anybody else does. As they say, the heart wants what the heart wants, and you can't just call bullshit on people for it. If you do, keep in mind how close to the edge of A-hole hypocrisy you're getting there. This is why it's almost never a good idea to create by committee, especially when that committee are fans. So...

Just because you're a fan of a property doesn't mean you have any business deciding the future of your beloved franchise.
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Re: General IDW Godzilla Comic Discussion

Postby MechaGamera » Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:08 am

Every fan has a choice in deciding the fate or future of their beloved franchise, The can decide to buy or not to buy. Without a fan base a franchise is nothing. Lets never forget that.
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Re: General IDW Godzilla Comic Discussion

Postby Captain Aktion » Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:14 am

^Of course.

That fact didn't really come into play with what I was pointing out.

Actually, good way to put it. If you don't like a story, express it by not buying it. However you don't get to decide whether the story should exist at all.
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Re: General IDW Godzilla Comic Discussion

Postby SuperSaiyan4Godzilla » Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:32 am

Captain Aktion wrote:
SuperSaiyan4Godzilla wrote:
Captain Aktion wrote:I don't know why more of the posters on here don't submit story-treatments/outlines to IDW.

Many of you obviously know how to, and seem to think you can, create the absolute perfect Godzilla comic that will please 100% of the fanbase across the board while making all of the seasoned industry professionals who have actually produced said material look like chumps and noobs.

I mean, if I had that kind of talent and insight into the sales and marketing labyrinth that is the comic book industry I sure as hell wouldn't be sitting in a forum merely talking about what I'd do and whining about how others are "doing it all wrong". I'd pull up my bootstraps and get to work and go make me some of that Mark Millar money, know what I'm sayin'?

Just, when you write your comics, guys, be sure that I like it, okay? I don't care if anybody else likes it or not, alright? This is Godzilla we're talking about and as a fan, my opinion is the only one that really matters, get it?


Joe Quesada and Joseph Loeb. And Mark Millar isn't as good as he once was.

Look those two up and see how they just about ruined perfectly good franchises.

Just because you're in the bizz doesn't mean you're good.


And as stupid and scary of an idea as this may be, I'm sure that there are fans of MJ-less Spiderman and fans of Rulk too.

You guys want to argue taste? I've said this before and I'll reiterate; we're talking comics and Godzilla here. There are plenty of places full of very learned people who would laugh in our faces if we tried to talk high-and-mighty about Godzilla. Taste. You don't get to dictate it any more than I do or anybody else does. As they say, the heart wants what the heart wants, and you can't just call bullshit on people for it. If you do, keep in mind how close to the edge of A-hole hypocrisy you're getting there. This is why it's almost never a good idea to create by committee, especially when that committee are fans. So...

Just because you're a fan of a property doesn't mean you have any business deciding the future of your beloved franchise.


I'm not arguing your tastes.

I'm arguing your bitching.
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Re: General IDW Godzilla Comic Discussion

Postby Captain Aktion » Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:48 am

SuperSaiyan4Godzilla wrote:
I'm not arguing your tastes.

I'm arguing your bitching.


See what I was saying earlier? Everyone can dog on it all day, when I defend it, I'm bitching. Ironic, much?
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Re: General IDW Godzilla Comic Discussion

Postby SuperSaiyan4Godzilla » Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:58 am

Captain Aktion wrote:
SuperSaiyan4Godzilla wrote:
I'm not arguing your tastes.

I'm arguing your bitching.


See what I was saying earlier? Everyone can dog on it all day, when I defend it, I'm bitching. Ironic, much?


You can defend all you want. But your responses become very personalized. They're emotionally charged and intellectually lacking.
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Re: General IDW Godzilla Comic Discussion

Postby Captain Aktion » Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:07 am

^I see...what a good point.

EDIT: Here's another point. You attempt to attack my intelligence then accuse me of getting personal. Irony, ladies and gentlemen.
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Re: General IDW Godzilla Comic Discussion

Postby Godzilla 1995 » Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:21 pm

Oh, good gosh Aktion, chill out.


You guys want to argue taste? I've said this before and I'll reiterate; we're talking comics and Godzilla here.


Yup, we know, so we use this thread to make our opinions on these topics known.

There are plenty of places full of very learned people who would laugh in our faces if we tried to talk high-and-mighty about Godzilla.


Yes, but they're not here, just us Godzilla fans. So why mention them?

Taste. You don't get to dictate it any more than I do or anybody else does. As they say, the heart wants what the heart wants, and you can't just call bullcrap on people for it.


We ain't calling bullcrap on your tastes, we're thinking you're way too emtionally invested in this thing.

If you do, keep in mind how close to the edge of A-hole hypocrisy you're getting there. This is why it's almost never a good idea to create by committee, especially when that committee are fans. So...


A-hole hypocrisy? Well that was immature, no need for that. I may not agree with SS4G a whole lot, but I usually think of him as pretty consistent.

Just because you're a fan of a property doesn't mean you have any business deciding the future of your beloved franchise.


No, but since we can voice our opinions, we do have some influence on what creators will produce. You do to, Captain, it's just your opinion is in the minority. Oh, and for the record, I like Kingdom of Monsters, but I do think it has some serious problems.

I'm not arguing your tastes.

I'm arguing your whining.


Captian Aktion wrote:See what I was saying earlier? Everyone can dog on it all day, when I defend it, I'm whining. Ironic, much?


I think it's been said before, but we're not getting on your opinion anymore. We're just annoyed by how emotional you are about this matter. We think it's silly. I don't mind your opinion on KOM, and there are others who don't mind it either, and people can even say openly they disagree with your opinion. Nothing wrong with that.

SS4G wrote:You can defend all you want. But your responses become very personalized. They're emotionally charged and intellectually lacking.

I see...what a good point.

Captian Aktion wrote:EDIT: Here's another point. You attempt to attack my intelligence then accuse me of getting personal. Irony, ladies and gentlemen.
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You're not helping yourself, Cap. SS4G isn't attacking you, but merely pointing out your responses are far more heated than necessary, and guess what? He's right. Your responses HAVE become very emotionally charged, and you've lowered yourself to insults and names. Chill out a bit, come back later before you respond to this.

And just remember, everyone...it's just a comic. If someone disagrees with you, life will go on.
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Re: General IDW Godzilla Comic Discussion

Postby Captain Aktion » Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:33 pm

^Just to be clear, my A-hole hypocrisy comment wasn't directed at anyone in particular, just anyone who is getting close to the thinking/actions I described.

I think it's soooo strange that you guys think I'm "heated" or "emotionally charged". If I were speaking all of this to you, it would be in an even-toned deadpan, not hysterics. Perhaps some of my sentiments sound rough and that's where you get that from? I really don't get it.

Again, so strange to me. I guess I'm too new to forums to get HOW you're SUPPOSED to argue and disagree with people, especially people who just flat tell you,"you have no merit in your opinion, mine is the true opinion."

I've gotten SO much flack for liking this comic and all of it is coming from people who should be open minded enough not to bash on someone for liking it and then I'M the one who's too heated, inflammatory, stupid, etc.

How does that make any sense?

EDIT: I've never, ever, ever, ever said that anyone has to agree with me, or that my opinion trumps theirs G 1995. Yet I've gotten that treatment from the get-go. I don't know where you get the idea that I'm arguing BECAUSE we disagree. I'm arguing because I truly want to engage in intelligent discourse on the merits of shortcomings of a product I enjoy. That's what I'm trying to do, at least.
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Re: General IDW Godzilla Comic Discussion

Postby Godzilla 1995 » Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:41 pm

Captain Aktion wrote:I think it's soooo strange that you guys think I'm "heated" or "emotionally charged". If I were speaking all of this to you, it would be in an even-toned deadpan, not hysterics. Perhaps some of my sentiments sound rough and that's where you get that from? I really don't get it.


Cap, it's the internet. Our minds read things certain ways, and to us it definitely looked heated. Even I thought you were a little heated in the beginning.

Again, so strange to me. I guess I'm too new to forums to get HOW you're SUPPOSED to argue and disagree with people, especially people who just flat tell you,"you have no merit in your opinion, mine is the true opinion."


Again, your post seemed a little pissed. And we're not banging on your opinion, some of us just disagree. Do I think some people on here think their opinion is always right? Yeah, but we can just agree to disagree. That IS a choice here.

I've gotten SO much flack for liking this comic and all of it is coming from people who should be open minded enough not to bash on someone for liking it and then I'M the one who's too heated, inflammatory, stupid, etc.


We're not bashing you, Captian. No one has called you angry, or stupid, or anything else like that as far as I know. Your POSTS, however, seem heated, and well...immature would be a way of putting it. You are not stupid, nor do we think you're pissed off, but your posts have become rather heated and intellectually lacking.
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Re: General IDW Godzilla Comic Discussion

Postby Captain Aktion » Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:43 pm

*Sigh*

*walks away*
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Re: General IDW Godzilla Comic Discussion

Postby SuperSaiyan4Godzilla » Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:51 pm

I shall only approach the quotes that pique my interest.

There are plenty of places full of very learned people who would laugh in our faces if we tried to talk high-and-mighty about Godzilla.


Yes, but they're not here, just us Godzilla fans. So why mention them?


And there are far more places where you can discuss Godzilla with learned scholars in an intellectual way. I've gone to the MLA Convention, the Sigma Tau Delta International convention, and various other places and discussed the themes and interpretations of Godzilla and the giant monsters with Ph.Ds. Their response to me? "Kid, you've latched onto something interesting and new. Continue your work."

So, there are learned scholars that enjoy looking at Godzilla in an intellectual way.

If you do, keep in mind how close to the edge of A-hole hypocrisy you're getting there. This is why it's almost never a good idea to create by committee, especially when that committee are fans. So...


A-hole hypocrisy? Well that was immature, no need for that. I may not agree with SS4G a whole lot, but I usually think of him as pretty consistent.


Thank you for your respect, Godzilla 1995.

Just because you're a fan of a property doesn't mean you have any business deciding the future of your beloved franchise.


No, but since we can voice our opinions, we do have some influence on what creators will produce. You do to, Captain, it's just your opinion is in the minority. Oh, and for the record, I like Kingdom of Monsters, but I do think it has some serious problems.


Oh, yes, we can totally influence the future of our beloved franchise and genre. Just because you've squandered your life with that idea doesn't mean that the next generation of fans have to. We can becomes writers, scholars, filmmakers, special effect artists, etc. and influence the franchises and genre. The existence of a power-less fan is superficial and fundamentally false.

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Re: General IDW Godzilla Comic Discussion

Postby Godzilla 1995 » Sun Feb 12, 2012 1:13 pm

Ah, it's nothing. Just trying to help cool down the place.
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Re: General IDW Godzilla Comic Discussion

Postby Cimmerian Dragon » Sun Feb 12, 2012 3:43 pm

SuperSaiyan4Godzilla wrote:I shall only approach the quotes that pique my interest.

There are plenty of places full of very learned people who would laugh in our faces if we tried to talk high-and-mighty about Godzilla.


Yes, but they're not here, just us Godzilla fans. So why mention them?


And there are far more places where you can discuss Godzilla with learned scholars in an intellectual way. I've gone to the MLA Convention, the Sigma Tau Delta International convention, and various other places and discussed the themes and interpretations of Godzilla and the giant monsters with Ph.Ds. Their response to me? "Kid, you've latched onto something interesting and new. Continue your work."

So, there are learned scholars that enjoy looking at Godzilla in an intellectual way.


Believe it or not, I've found that to be the norm (or at least a reasonable majority) in those sorts of crowds. It's hard to shake the idea of academia looking down its nose at genre work; it's actually become something of a point of pride in certain fan circles. However, I've come to see that the truth is much less incendiary. Your average teacher or professor is likely to be fairly astute, and if there's merit in a piece of work, they'll admit it.

Now, the pseudo-intellectuals...they are the motherf**kers that look at genre fiction like its something they scraped off their boot. Just think, it would take a profoundly close-minded person to watch Godzilla '54 and come away thinking that it was not an important work.
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