Judging from what we know (American Godzilla)

[gatorzilla]

With the original plans for the American Godzilla trilogy you have to wonder could it have ended up being one of the greatest monster movie trilogy's of all time? You think about how the Gamera movies were done and the quality of them. It seems like before the American Godzilla fell apart with the 98 version that it was going to end up being a fantastic trilogy especially with the fact De Bont wanted to use the best special effects possible

[thatsoundman]

The effects were great considering all was done using cg, but there were the items that just did not add up.
In the Toho films Godzilla was bigger,
he only had one kid at a time,
the films all had a funny line some where in the movie.
etc,etc.

[gatorzilla]

The effects were great considering all was done using cg, but there were the items that just did not add up.
In the Toho films Godzilla was bigger,
he only had one kid at a time,
the films all had a funny line some where in the movie.
etc,etc.

Well im talking more along the lines of the De Bont project. He stated i believe that he wanted to use the best special effects possible and the story was already pretty good and action packed

[XxComablack1937xX]

It would have been like Transformer's, a lot of action with a weak story an dumb down character's. Action with the Robot's is what gets people in the seat's for Transformers an with Godzilla it would be him fighting another monster... other-wise it would have been crappy.

Granted more respectful to Godzilla then Emmerich's version by miles, but i doubt the character's would have been anymore memorable then in most of Toho's 90's films.

[Tohosaurus]

It certainly isn't likely given the mediocre first entrant in the proposed trilogy, but it could've gotten better. I doubt they'd have become as good as the Gamera trilogy had been. Really what Sony could've done was wait some years and just reboot it with something more akin to the G94 idea that never made it.

[thatsoundman]

but could they make a better movie. in movie history, most sequels are duds. and i have the gamera set that you are referring to, and agree that they are great. the last one (gamera) that was done, was a different story to be agreed, and was done extremely well.

[gatorzilla]

It certainly isn't likely given the mediocre first entrant in the proposed trilogy, but it could've gotten better. I doubt they'd have become as good as the Gamera trilogy had been. Really what Sony could've done was wait some years and just reboot it with something more akin to the G94 idea that never made it.

See thats what I never understood on Sonys part. Look what they are doing with Spider-Man. They couldve easily done it with Godzilla and things couldve been much better off. Ill never understand what they were thinking on that. Rebooting it wouldve been the way to go.

[thatsoundman]

It certainly isn't likely given the mediocre first entrant in the proposed trilogy, but it could've gotten better. I doubt they'd have become as good as the Gamera trilogy had been. Really what Sony could've done was wait some years and just reboot it with something more akin to the G94 idea that never made it.

See thats what I never understood on Sonys part. Look what they are doing with Spider-Man. They couldve easily done it with Godzilla and things couldve been much better off. Ill never understand what they were thinking on that. Rebooting it wouldve been the way to go.

agreed, that is all we can hope for on this film, if they ever finish it. there is a rumor that now that it has been almost 10 years since final wars, toho is considering another godzilla film. really looking forward to that.

[gatorzilla]

It certainly isn't likely given the mediocre first entrant in the proposed trilogy, but it could've gotten better. I doubt they'd have become as good as the Gamera trilogy had been. Really what Sony could've done was wait some years and just reboot it with something more akin to the G94 idea that never made it.

See thats what I never understood on Sonys part. Look what they are doing with Spider-Man. They couldve easily done it with Godzilla and things couldve been much better off. Ill never understand what they were thinking on that. Rebooting it wouldve been the way to go.

agreed, that is all we can hope for on this film, if they ever finish it. there is a rumor that now that it has been almost 10 years since final wars, toho is considering another godzilla film. really looking forward to that.

Interesting. Now maybe that goes with those rumors of Toho doing a Godzilla film along with the LP Godzilla too.
Now i would not complain about having both at all
But I just want a darn Godzilla film period.
i miss the days of Godzilla movie info every week practially

[Tohosaurus]

It certainly isn't likely given the mediocre first entrant in the proposed trilogy, but it could've gotten better. I doubt they'd have become as good as the Gamera trilogy had been. Really what Sony could've done was wait some years and just reboot it with something more akin to the G94 idea that never made it.

See thats what I never understood on Sonys part. Look what they are doing with Spider-Man. They couldve easily done it with Godzilla and things couldve been much better off. Ill never understand what they were thinking on that. Rebooting it wouldve been the way to go.

agreed, that is all we can hope for on this film, if they ever finish it. there is a rumor that now that it has been almost 10 years since final wars, toho is considering another godzilla film. really looking forward to that.

Dunno where you heard that rumor, but Toho's unlikely to be considering that. There's a fair chance that it's just more talk based on the 10 years off hand comment that was made so many years ago now.

As for gatorzilla, yes I do agree to an extent. But with their lukewarm (at best) reception and then Godzilla 2000, their soon-to-expire rights may just not have been worth the investment to them.

[XxComablack1937xX]

It certainly isn't likely given the mediocre first entrant in the proposed trilogy, but it could've gotten better. I doubt they'd have become as good as the Gamera trilogy had been. Really what Sony could've done was wait some years and just reboot it with something more akin to the G94 idea that never made it.

See thats what I never understood on Sonys part. Look what they are doing with Spider-Man. They couldve easily done it with Godzilla and things couldve been much better off. Ill never understand what they were thinking on that. Rebooting it wouldve been the way to go.

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Spiderman 3 - Had 2 major successful an praised films prior an even though Spiderman 3 is considered a disappointment its budget (258$ million) brought in (890$ million) not to mention it's merchandise still sold rather well.

Comparing the Spiderman Reboot to what they could of done with Godzilla is like comparing Godzilla franchise to Nolans Batman franchise.

As it stands, Any budget over 100$ million is a serious investment/risk at Legendary an Warner.. Godzilla isn't a franchise proven to be very profitable yet but it ''has potential'' that's where it stands.

Look at it like this, G-98 failed to meet expectations big-time, the merch didn't sell like they were expecting, fans an critic's hated it... G-2000 was luke-warm at best an wasn't that successful if at all.... A Reboot within 3 years with another 100$+ million budget an marketing??

Would have been movie suicide....... Sony was wise to let the right's expire.

Another example ''Final Wars'' being the lowest grossing Godzilla film since ''1974'' Terror of Mecha-Godzilla.... The franchise was in need of serious rest, 3 years simply wasn't enough.

[gatorzilla]

It certainly isn't likely given the mediocre first entrant in the proposed trilogy, but it could've gotten better. I doubt they'd have become as good as the Gamera trilogy had been. Really what Sony could've done was wait some years and just reboot it with something more akin to the G94 idea that never made it.

See thats what I never understood on Sonys part. Look what they are doing with Spider-Man. They couldve easily done it with Godzilla and things couldve been much better off. Ill never understand what they were thinking on that. Rebooting it wouldve been the way to go.

^^^^^^^
Spiderman 3 - Had 2 major successful an praised films prior an even though Spiderman 3 is considered a disappointment its budget (258$ million) brought in (890$ million) not to mention it's merchandise still sold rather well.

Comparing the Spiderman Reboot to what they could of done with Godzilla is like comparing Godzilla franchise to Nolans Batman franchise.

As it stands, Any budget over 100$ million is a serious investment/risk at Legendary an Warner.. Godzilla isn't a franchise proven to be very profitable yet but it ''has potential'' that's where it stands.

Look at it like this, G-98 failed to meet expectations big-time, the merch didn't sell like they were expecting, fans an critic's hated it... G-2000 was luke-warm at best an wasn't that successful if at all.... A Reboot within 3 years with another 100$+ million budget an marketing??

Would have been movie suicide....... Sony was wise to let the right's expire.

Another example ''Final Wars'' being the lowest grossing Godzilla film since ''1974'' Terror of Mecha-Godzilla.... The franchise was in need of serious rest, 3 years simply wasn't enough.

Yeah now that I think about it thats a very good point.
The other thing is giving the franchise a break will allow people to be hungry for more films and thus flock to see them when they come out

Id love to see Toho take a crack at more CGI especially after seeing that CGI Godzilla that was done

[Tohosaurus]

Kinda OT but ...

I do like some of the design elements of the Emmerich Godzilla. Not as Godzilla, mind you, but for a different monster. Its basic design could be used as the basis for a new monster movie trilogy. I think Emmerich's movies are hit or miss. Frankly, 2012 and 10,000 BC sucked. But he also had some good entrees like The Day After Tomorrow and Independence Day. His films also have the tendency to (for whatever reason, his direction or otherwise) have top drawer special effects.

So just as Emmerich returns to end-of-world type movies, creature features, etc, I think Emmerich could return to the giant monster sub-genre and make something that's better than Godzilla was. Like I said, the basic design but updated works well enough for the new creature. Maybe the monster doesn't need and "powers" for the first movie like Godzilla, but with a trilogy it could gain new powers each movie as a continuously mutating/evolving manifestation. The second movie's monster could have a ray and the third movie could add something else.

Plot wise, they don't need something very different from G98, which itself borrows the same basic plot of radiated life forms that we've seen since the 50s. The door would be open for a series since the irradiated land/island had more than just one animal, so the world could be in for a tough time as it deals with all of these mutated beasts. But why are the monsters only turning up now? There are ways of getting around that. Maybe set the first movie in the 70s or 80s or just from blasts in the present like G98.

Idk, just a thought I've had for a while.

[gatorzilla]

interesting ideas. It would be cool to write out a story for that.

But look at a lot of the present day issues we see. A lot of those can be tied into a movie as being responsible for the creation of a monster.

I personally have always wanted to do a story around a mutated alligator/crocodile monster

[thatsoundman]

interesting ideas. It would be cool to write out a story for that.

But look at a lot of the present day issues we see. A lot of those can be tied into a movie as being responsible for the creation of a monster.

I personally have always wanted to do a story around a mutated alligator/crocodile monster

I think i saw that on scifi last week.....

also, 2000 was a mixture of man in the suit and cg.

[ManWithNoName]

Would it have been one of the best movies? I don't know. If frogs had skreeonk wings they wouldn't hit their ass when they jumped.