Strongest Era of Toho Kaiju

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Strongest Era of Toho Kaiju

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Strongest Era of Toho Kaiju

Postby PopInPicsPresents » Mon Feb 06, 2012 7:21 pm

Basically, I think we should debate which era of kaiju is stronger over the others here.

My vote goes to the ever hated Heisei era. Showa era kaiju were killed by volcanoes and hurt by conventional weaponry. Hell, to my knowledge Gigan, Megalon and King Ghidorah's were hurt by the masers. The Heisei kaiju took masers like nobodies business. The larval Mothra from Godzilla vs. Mothra was the only monster of the Heisei era to be hurt by the masers. Godzilla and Battra survived swimming under the Earth's mantle for Christ sake. Heisei kaiju were bigger, tankier and more aggressive.
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Re: Strongest Era of Toho Kaiju

Postby Living Corpse » Mon Feb 06, 2012 7:35 pm

PopInPicsPresents wrote:My vote goes to the ever hated Heisei era.


Since when was the Heisei series hated? Sure it may have it's haters (what/who doesn't) and it doesn't shine like the Showa films but generally fans seem to still enjoy them. :?
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Re: Strongest Era of Toho Kaiju

Postby PopInPicsPresents » Mon Feb 06, 2012 7:46 pm

Living Corpse wrote:
PopInPicsPresents wrote:My vote goes to the ever hated Heisei era.


Since when was the Heisei series hated? Sure it may have it's haters (what/who doesn't) and it doesn't shine like the Showa films but generally fans seem to still enjoy them. :?


From what I've seen around here it tends to be the least liked out of the 3.
EDIT: Maybe I should have worded it differently, my bad :oops:
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Re: Strongest Era of Toho Kaiju

Postby Living Corpse » Mon Feb 06, 2012 7:49 pm

Really? I was under the impression that the Millennium films the least liked due to how rushed they were and some really shoddy FX. GXM, I'm looking at you and your damn strings. >_<
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Re: Strongest Era of Toho Kaiju

Postby Kaiju-King42 » Mon Feb 06, 2012 7:49 pm

PopInPicsPresents wrote:Basically, I think we should debate which era of kaiju is stronger over the others here.

My vote goes to the ever hated Heisei era. Showa era kaiju were killed by volcanoes and hurt by conventional weaponry. Hell, to my knowledge Gigan, Megalon and King Ghidorah's were hurt by the masers. The Heisei kaiju took masers like nobodies business. The larval Mothra from Godzilla vs. Mothra was the only monster of the Heisei era to be hurt by the masers. Godzilla and Battra survived swimming under the Earth's mantle for Christ sake. Heisei kaiju were bigger, tankier and more aggressive.


Just before you get mad at me for arguing, I want you to know that I picked Heisei too.

Anyway, only on two occasions were kaiju killed by volcanos. The Rodans, and the Yog monsters, and lets face it, the Yog monsters were never very durable. As for the Rodans, there is the possibility that one may have survived. I also can't think of any instances where non-cannon fodder Kaiju were hurt by conventional weaponry unless it was one of the sci-fi weapons like the artificial lightning generator or the maser. As for the masers themselves: Gaira was not all that durable, Gigan was struck in the eye, and King Ghidorah didn't seem all that injured to me. More like shocked, like "OMG, I felt that." As for Megalon... I haven't seen that movie in a while, so I can't judge him fairly. And besides, who's to say that showa masers weren't stronger than heisei masers. Heisei masers are more explosive and flashy, while showa masers seem to be more equipped for penetrating armor, with that narrow beam and all.

Don't get me wrong, Heisei is still the strongest overall. But Showa monsters aren't all as weak as some say.
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Re: Strongest Era of Toho Kaiju

Postby PopInPicsPresents » Mon Feb 06, 2012 7:53 pm

Kaiju-King42 wrote:
PopInPicsPresents wrote:Basically, I think we should debate which era of kaiju is stronger over the others here.

My vote goes to the ever hated Heisei era. Showa era kaiju were killed by volcanoes and hurt by conventional weaponry. Hell, to my knowledge Gigan, Megalon and King Ghidorah's were hurt by the masers. The Heisei kaiju took masers like nobodies business. The larval Mothra from Godzilla vs. Mothra was the only monster of the Heisei era to be hurt by the masers. Godzilla and Battra survived swimming under the Earth's mantle for Christ sake. Heisei kaiju were bigger, tankier and more aggressive.


Just before you get mad at me for arguing, I want you to know that I picked Heisei too.


I'm not the kinda of person to get upset about someones opinion, to each is own. The whole point of this thread is so people bring their opinions here and stop bitching about it on the FMs.
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Re: Strongest Era of Toho Kaiju

Postby Living Corpse » Mon Feb 06, 2012 7:54 pm

But Showa monsters aren't all as weak as some say.


Showa monsters. Weak.

Does not compute.

From what I've seen the fanbase tends to see most of the millennium monsters, with a few exceptions, as "meh" when it comes to combat achievements.
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Re: Strongest Era of Toho Kaiju

Postby PopInPicsPresents » Mon Feb 06, 2012 7:56 pm

Living Corpse wrote:
But Showa monsters aren't all as weak as some say.


Showa monsters. Weak.

Does not compute.

From what I've seen the fanbase tends to see most of the millennium monsters, with a few exceptions, as "meh" when it comes to combat achievements.


I agree. I doubt a lot of the Heisei and Millennium kaiju could take on the Showa Hedorah and win.
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Re: Strongest Era of Toho Kaiju

Postby Kaiju-King42 » Mon Feb 06, 2012 7:59 pm

Not many Kaiju period could take on the Showa Hedorah and win.
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Re: Strongest Era of Toho Kaiju

Postby Shadow » Tue Feb 07, 2012 12:26 am

Kaiju-King42 wrote:Not many Kaiju period could take on the Showa Hedorah and win.


Us Xiliens could. :huge:
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Re: Strongest Era of Toho Kaiju

Postby miguelnuva » Tue Feb 07, 2012 4:10 am

Kaiju-King42 wrote:Not many Kaiju period could take on the Showa Hedorah and win.


I personally feel that the heisei powerhouses could take Hedorah.

Just because he took showa goji's ray doesn't mean he can take Heisei goji's ray.
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Re: Strongest Era of Toho Kaiju

Postby Cimmerian Dragon » Tue Feb 07, 2012 7:32 am

Yeah. It has nothing to do with my favorite series/monsters, but on a reasonably objective level, I think I have to give this one to Heisei.
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Re: Strongest Era of Toho Kaiju

Postby o.supreme » Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:10 am

I would have to agree that that Heisei era seems to have the largest and most Poweful Monsters of any era. Its not my personal favorite era, but I highly enjoy these films. The Showa era will always be my classic favorite, but from 1991-1995, I looked forward every summer with much anticipation of getting a bootleg VHS of the previous years Godzilla film. Those were good times!

Also this is why I dont understand (and mostly stay away from) the KWC. I know there will always be fan biases. But am I the only casual reader of these and at least 75% of the time scratching my head-what?? When reading the outcome of these matches. You'll notice that almost always a Heisei Monster will loose if fighting a monster from any other era.
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Re: Strongest Era of Toho Kaiju

Postby Living Corpse » Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:34 am

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Also this is why I dont understand (and mostly stay away from) the KWC. I know there will always be fan biases. But am I the only casual reader of these and at least 75% of the time scratching my head-what?? When reading the outcome of these matches. You'll notice that almost always a Heisei Monster will loose if fighting a monster from any other era.


Treat the fan fiction the same way you'd treat the games. A different universe then the films. Turn off your brain, go for the ride and you'll find them a lot more enjoyable instead of saying "how in the hell is Baragon kicking my ass in this game? I'm Godzilla!" It'd be boring to have the "better" monster win all the time and not do a plot twist or ass pull once in a while to keep things interesting instead of stale and predictable. Even guys like Godzilla run into some bad luck and take their lumps, can't win them all.

Plus it's not like the "scripts" for the films never do an ass pull. Fire Rodan bringing Godzilla back to life and giving him a new beam anyone? ;)
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Re: Strongest Era of Toho Kaiju

Postby Rody » Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:20 am

I take it this thread refers to how powerful the kaiju in each era were, not how critically strong the films were?
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Re: Strongest Era of Toho Kaiju

Postby ScootaVaran » Tue Feb 07, 2012 1:10 pm

I'm all for Showa but if we are talking about strongest monsters by era. i have to go with Heisei.
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Re: Strongest Era of Toho Kaiju

Postby Tyler » Tue Feb 07, 2012 1:45 pm

The flashy 'strength' of Heisei monsters is one of the series' faults I think.
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Re: Strongest Era of Toho Kaiju

Postby Kaiju-King42 » Tue Feb 07, 2012 3:01 pm

^I thought it was the beam battles that people disliked?
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Re: Strongest Era of Toho Kaiju

Postby JAGzilla » Tue Feb 07, 2012 4:59 pm

The sheer size of the Heisei monsters has to count for something. In terms of physical strength, at least, I'm fairly sure they'd have the edge. Feel free to disprove that, though, as I haven't seen most of the Heisei movies in years.
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Re: Strongest Era of Toho Kaiju

Postby RedZillaKing » Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:16 pm

On average I'd have to go with Heisei. However the two strongest Godzillas come from the Millenium series and Hedorah is among the strongest Toho monsters.
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