Carnotaurus vs. Spinosaurus

[Gyaos]

To add to RZK's argument, metal weakens as it corrodes over time. Steel is no diffrent.

[PopInPicsPresents]

To add to RZK's argument, metal weakens as it corrodes over time. Steel is no diffrent.

An island off the coast of Costa Rica is bound to get a shit ton of rain so the fence couldn't of been all that durable to begin with.

[RedZillaKing]

Wanna hear the most hilarious thing of all? A real Carnotaurus wouldn't even attempt to attack a real Spinosaurus. And not for the reasons you might think either. A real carno was half a spino's length (literally) and 1/3 of it's weight at the most. The Spinosaurus would simply be too big to attack. Also, it would likely be wading or swimming around looking for its dietary staple: fish. It's incredible how off the mark both films were when it came to their starring dinos.

[Rody]

Wanna hear the most hilarious thing of all? A real Carnotaurus wouldn't even attempt to attack a real Spinosaurus. And not for the reasons you might think either. A real carno was half a spino's length (literally) and 1/3 of it's weight at the most. The Spinosaurus would simply be too big to attack. Also, it would likely be wading or swimming around looking for its dietary staple: fish. It's incredible how off the mark both films were when it came to their starring dinos.

....While Charcarodontosaurs get no love.

[SpanishBulldog63]

[quote=RedZillaKing"]A real carno was half a spino's length (literally) and 1/3 of it's weight at the most[/quote]
that and i doubt Carno(in real life) had the bite power behind its narrow skull and thin lower jaw to really do that much damage anyway

[Giral2010]

Wanna hear the most hilarious thing of all? A real Carnotaurus wouldn't even attempt to attack a real Spinosaurus. And not for the reasons you might think either. A real carno was half a spino's length (literally) and 1/3 of it's weight at the most. The Spinosaurus would simply be too big to attack. Also, it would likely be wading or swimming around looking for its dietary staple: fish. It's incredible how off the mark both films were when it came to their starring dinos.

actually, many paleontologists say that the one skeleton found had a "premature" structure and might have grown from 30-50 feet long.

[RedZillaKing]

I've never heard that theory.... But okay then!

[Rody]

actually, many paleontologists say that the one skeleton found had a "premature" structure and might have grown from 30-50 feet long.

Wait, are you referring to Spino or Carno?

[RedZillaKing]

Spinosaurus has a maximum length estimate of 18 meters (59.4 feet). That's friggin' sauropod sized.

[Rody]

Okay, I couldn't tell from Giral2010's post.

Actually, Spino lived alongside a close relative of the Carno - Rugops. As far as I know, it was about the same size as Carnotaurus.

[RedZillaKing]

And it probably didn't attack adult spinosaurs. Likewise, I doubt Rugops had to fear predation from Spino either. I wonder if Spino's sheer bulk restricted it to its semi aquatic lifestyle... It is theorized in upper estimates to be 13-18 tons!!!

[Kaiju-King42]

actually, many paleontologists say that the one skeleton found had a "premature" structure and might have grown from 30-50 feet long.

I don't quite believe that one. Something about it just seems off.

[Varan 1958]

And it probably didn't attack adult spinosaurs. Likewise, I doubt Rugops had to fear predation from Spino either. I wonder if Spino's sheer bulk restricted it to its semi aquatic lifestyle... It is theorized in upper estimates to be 13-18 tons!!!

Rugops wasn't a giant predator, unlike Spinosaurus and Carcharodontosaurus (which may have been the apex predator of the time) Carnotaurus wasn't likely to be at the top of the food chain either.

And it probably didn't attack adult spinosaurs. Likewise, I doubt Rugops had to fear predation from Spino either. I wonder if Spino's sheer bulk restricted it to its semi aquatic lifestyle... It is theorized in upper estimates to be 13-18 tons!!!

Spinosaurus might have, but not because it was heavy. A similar theory was thought about large sauropods having aquatic styles, but that was (I think) proven wrong. Spinosaurus probably did as that was where it's source of food was.

[RedZillaKing]

The sauropods being land dwellers makes a lot more sense to me, though. Spinosaurus was a biped. The thought of such an ungainly creature chasing down prey is just absurd. Especially at around twice a tyrannosaur's weight. The idea of a Spino thigh deep in the water makes more sense. Hell, studies of its bones even suggest that it was semi aquatic. I wouldn't be surprised of Carcharos munched on spinos occasionally either.

[PopInPicsPresents]

I wouldn't be surprised of Carcharos munched on spinos occasionally either.

Predators don't normally eat other predators

[RedZillaKing]

Actually, with cannibalism apparent in several species of predatory dinosaurs it's not too far fetched.

[Rody]

In the modern day, it is fairly common for large birds of prey (e.g. great horned owls, golden eagles) to attack, kill, and sometimes eat smaller raptors.

Since birds are considered dinosaurs' closest living relatives....

[Varan 1958]

I wouldn't be surprised of Carcharos munched on spinos occasionally either.

Predators don't normally eat other predators

Not true. Some species of anacondas (which is a predator) prey on caimans (also predators). It all depends on where they are at on the food chain. Also, you never know about Carcharodontosaurus preying on Spinosaurus. If I'm correct, Spinos are larger than Carcharodontosaurus, which gives them the size advantage. If the Carcharodontosaurus was hunting in packs, like other species of Allosaurs, it could easily take on a Spino.

In the modern day, it is fairly common for large birds of prey (e.g. great horned owls, golden eagles) to attack, kill, and sometimes eat smaller raptors.

Since birds are considered dinosaurs' closest living relatives....

Just because they are their closest living relatives would mean that they would act the same. They may be structured similarly, but dinosaurs (during the Jurassic and Cretaceous) were the dominant species, while birds of today live in a worlded ruled by mammals.

Wow, this thread went into a discussion on dinosaurs and predator behavior.

[Kaiju-King42]

Well it does involve a fight between two predatory dinosaurs, so I'm not surprised.

[RedZillaKing]

The Spinosaurus was MUCH larger than a Carcharo. That doesn't change the fact that the Carcharo was way more lethal.