What godzilla movies been lacking

[JKN]

Hardcore human sex scenes intercut with monster brawls, all presented as a surrealistic experimental film.

Like the Hedorah movie, but weirder and more adult-oriented.

You forgot the fishmasks, make everyone wear them

[JAGzilla]

I agree that the JSDF needs to win more often, or at least do more damage. I've always been annoyed that their weapons are so ineffective against even the weaker monsters. Mothra larvae, for example. I don't care if they are goddesses or whatever, baby worms shouldn't be shrugging off all the hundreds of missiles, tank rounds, etc. that get thrown at them.

And I wouldn't mind the monster free-for-all idea, as long as the movie has a decent story and everything to go with it. That would be an excuse to see all kinds of matchups we normally wouldn't. Anguirus vs. Rodan, Kamacuras vs. King Seesar, Gezora vs. Bagan, etc. A movie like that could be a lot of fun if done right.

[Kaiju-King42]

I agree that the JSDF needs to win more often, or at least do more damage. I've always been annoyed that their weapons are so ineffective against even the weaker monsters. Mothra larvae, for example. I don't care if they are goddesses or whatever, baby worms shouldn't be shrugging off all the hundreds of missiles, tank rounds, etc. that get thrown at them.

How is this a bad thing? Kaiju are supposed to be nigh indestructible. Thats like saying you don't want Superman to be shrugging off tank rounds.

[Rody]

Hardcore human sex scenes intercut with monster brawls, all presented as a surrealistic experimental film.

Like the Hedorah movie, but weirder and more adult-oriented.

Please, please tell me you're joking.

[JKN]

Hardcore human sex scenes intercut with monster brawls, all presented as a surrealistic experimental film.

Like the Hedorah movie, but weirder and more adult-oriented.

Please, please tell me you're joking.

Please tell me your joking you didn't get the sarcasm

[JAGzilla]

I agree that the JSDF needs to win more often, or at least do more damage. I've always been annoyed that their weapons are so ineffective against even the weaker monsters. Mothra larvae, for example. I don't care if they are goddesses or whatever, baby worms shouldn't be shrugging off all the hundreds of missiles, tank rounds, etc. that get thrown at them.

How is this a bad thing? Kaiju are supposed to be nigh indestructible. Thats like saying you don't want Superman to be shrugging off tank rounds.

Well, yeah, but he's Superman. He isn't supposed to make any sense. Though I suppose the same can be said of Mothra...fine. This is ultimately a matter of opinion. And my opinion is that kaiju invincibility is annoying. Godzilla, Ghidorah, and the other big guns can get away with it for the same reason as Superman, but the smaller, weaker ones shouldn't, for hypocritical 'realism'-based reasons.

[TokyoVigilante]

Godzilla isn't invincible, though. There's plenty of real world weaponry that you could use to create a wonderful defensive measure.

Look at Mothra vs. Godzilla. One of my favorite parts is when the Airforce drops a load of napalm and it explodes in Godzilla's face and catches his head on fire. He promptly hauls ass in the opposite direction.

[Living Corpse]

Yeah it may not be able to kill him but that doesn't mean it doesn't hurt like hell.

[Rody]

Godzilla isn't invincible, though. There's plenty of real world weaponry that you could use to create a wonderful defensive measure.

Look at Mothra vs. Godzilla. One of my favorite parts is when the Airforce drops a load of napalm and it explodes in Godzilla's face and catches his head on fire. He promptly hauls ass in the opposite direction.

Well, technically, that was an accident in filming, wasn't it?

Please tell me your joking you didn't get the sarcasm

Sorry. Sometimes it's hard to catch sarcasm online.

[Living Corpse]

A lot of cool things have happened by accident.

[TokyoVigilante]

Well, technically, that was an accident in filming, wasn't it?

Even if Godzilla's head was supposed to catch on fire, the likely scripted scenario was that the napalm go off and Godzilla goes in the opposite direction (since the military's whole plan is to herd Godzilla towards the Artificial Lightning Generators). It's just supremely more badass this way.

I think ultimately, that's what you need to keep the monsters invincible and the military action not pointless; create reasonable balanced goals. The military doesn't need to kill Godzilla, but if they can hold him off while Hospital/Buses with Pregnant Nuns/Magic statue/etc. is evacuated from a certain area, or they can herd him towards a canyon or something like that. There's a lot of tension and narrative potential in scenarios like that.

[JAGzilla]

Godzilla isn't invincible, though. There's plenty of real world weaponry that you could use to create a wonderful defensive measure.

Look at Mothra vs. Godzilla. One of my favorite parts is when the Airforce drops a load of napalm and it explodes in Godzilla's face and catches his head on fire. He promptly hauls ass in the opposite direction.

Yeah, it stung for a few seconds. Then he shrugged it off and kept going like nothing happened. At the same time, he was putting up with tank fire and ungodly amounts of electricity. Shortly after he'd been poisoned by Mothra. And none of it did more than slow him down. And that wasn't even the worst beating he took in the Showa series, let alone some of the stuff he went through in the Heisei or Millenium movies.

I think ultimately, that's what you need to keep the monsters invincible and the military action not pointless; create reasonable balanced goals. The military doesn't need to kill Godzilla, but if they can hold him off while Hospital/Buses with Pregnant Nuns/Magic statue/etc. is evacuated from a certain area, or they can herd him towards a canyon or something like that. There's a lot of tension and narrative potential in scenarios like that.

I can agree with this, though.

[TokyoVigilante]

Yeah, it stung for a few seconds. Then he shrugged it off and kept going like nothing happened. At the same time, he was putting up with tank fire and ungodly amounts of electricity. Shortly after he'd been poisoned by Mothra. And none of it did more than slow him down. And that wasn't even the worst beating he took in the Showa series, let alone some of the stuff he went through in the Heisei or Millenium movies.

But it doesn't need to kill him or even nearly kill him; the SDF with nothing more then jellied gasoline and some airplanes was able to stop the unstoppable force and make him change direction. It put them in control and he went where they wanted him to go. That's all a reasonable anti-Godzilla tactic can expect as an outcome.

[JAGzilla]

But it doesn't need to kill him or even nearly kill him; the SDF with nothing more then jellied gasoline and some airplanes was able to stop the unstoppable force and make him change direction. It put them in control and he went where they wanted him to go. That's all a reasonable anti-Godzilla tactic can expect as an outcome.

A good point. But like I said, I have no problem with Godzilla being invincible, or the military having to limit their options to simply delaying or redirecting him. He's Godzilla, and doesn't need to make sense. I just don't like that nearly all kaiju seem to be equally resistant to military punishment. I can't, off the top of my head, come up with a single instance where jets, tanks, artillery, etc. did more than annoy a kaiju, aside from American ones like Zilla. Feel free to prove me wrong, of course.

[Kaiju-King42]

I guess this just depends on your preferences. I like kaiju when they are nigh indestructible. It helps their force of nature symbolism. Man cannot kill a hurricane, or a tornado or earthquake. Kaiju are the same, not animals in the true sense, but something much more. Creatures that in many cases, were created by man's foolishness. And now man must pay the price.

Just my way of looking at things.

[Legion1979]

I guess this just depends on your preferences. I like kaiju when they are nigh indestructible. It helps their force of nature symbolism. Man cannot kill a hurricane, or a tornado or earthquake. Kaiju are the same, not animals in the true sense, but something much more. Creatures that in many cases, were created by man's foolishness. And now man must pay the price.

There's no tension when a monster is indestructible. You should be able to think that the monsters COULD be hurt by certain things, otherwise it's all way too one sided.

[Kaiju-King42]

I guess this just depends on your preferences. I like kaiju when they are nigh indestructible. It helps their force of nature symbolism. Man cannot kill a hurricane, or a tornado or earthquake. Kaiju are the same, not animals in the true sense, but something much more. Creatures that in many cases, were created by man's foolishness. And now man must pay the price.

There's no tension when a monster is indestructible. You should be able to think that the monsters COULD be hurt by certain things, otherwise it's all way too one sided.

Which is where the giant robots, super weapons, and enemy kaiju come into play.
But like I said, it depend on your preferences.

[SuperSaiyan4Godzilla]

I guess this just depends on your preferences. I like kaiju when they are nigh indestructible. It helps their force of nature symbolism. Man cannot kill a hurricane, or a tornado or earthquake. Kaiju are the same, not animals in the true sense, but something much more. Creatures that in many cases, were created by man's foolishness. And now man must pay the price.

There's no tension when a monster is indestructible. You should be able to think that the monsters COULD be hurt by certain things, otherwise it's all way too one sided.

Which is where the giant robots, super weapons, and enemy kaiju come into play.
But like I said, it depend on your preferences.

Then the monsters aren't nigh indestructible is other monsters and weapons can harm them.

[Kaiju-King42]

I meant against normal human weapons.

[SuperSaiyan4Godzilla]

I meant against normal human weapons.

This is just a general consideration...

Imagine a world where super weapons started to pop up. It'd only take a couple of years before other countries would develop them.

The wars would be awesome to watch.