Carnotaurus vs. Spinosaurus

[Kaiju-King42]

These are supposed to be animals not monsters.

Animals empowered with the gift of... movie magic!

The Raptors, running around killing people like serial killers, running as fast as cheetahs, opening doors, setting traps, digging under warehouses to get at prey. Yeah, these aren't movie monsters, they're animals!

Pteranodons, able to carry humans. Tyrannosaurs and Spinosaurs bursting through fences and walls. Dilophosaurs spitting venom. The Jursassic Park dino's have always had something up their sleeve. An incredibly durable Spino all of a sudden doesn't seem too unlikely.

And your "T-Rex didn't break Spino's skin so he his pathetic" argument makes no sense when you turn around and say things like:

Wait... you don't recall him ripping massive chunks out of other dinosaurs in A DISNEY MOVIE AIMED AT KIDS? Come to think of it, neither do I. At any rate, we're dangerously close to the realm of silly here. We're talking about a film where the carno bites Aladar as he's falling and there's no damage to his flesh. Those teeth are goddamned sharp. It makes no sense. Oh. wait... It's a Disney movie aimed at kids.

Dude, if that is the case, then the Carno is just as bad as the T-Rex. I am beginning think your still sore over the fact that Spino beat the Tyrannosaurus in J3.

[RedZillaKing]

The Raptors, running around killing people like serial killers, running as fast as cheetahs, opening doors, setting traps, digging under warehouses to get at prey. Yeah, these aren't movie monsters, they're animals!

In bold: People are easy prey. The door thing isn't so impressive when you consider the fact that those were Deinonychus, not Velociraptors. Deinos are theorized to hunt in packs. Having organized hunts=some form of intelligence. It's not like the doors were complicated. And what's wrong with digging to get at prey? Lizards and other animals do it all the time.

As for the other things, yeah, they were ridiculous creative licenses, but nowhere near the physics defying Spinosaur muscles. I mean, Jesus, if he had some armor up there or something.... Besides, since when does running fast and being intelligent no longer qualify you as an animal? We never even saw them go that fast in the film, anyways. And it could be the result of gene tampering.

Pteranodons, able to carry humans. Tyrannosaurs and Spinosaurs bursting through fences and walls. Dilophosaurs spitting venom. The Jursassic Park dino's have always had something up their sleeve. An incredibly durable Spino all of a sudden doesn't seem too unlikely.

Put your listening eyes on. The fence hadn't been maintained for eight years. If the Spino were that strong would trees and vines hold him up? And actually, an incredibly durable Spino is inconsistent with the blood spatter shown earlier and f***s with the films own internal logic. Those teeth were sharp. A moderate amount of pressure should have pierced his muscles. But it didn't. Stop acting like the Spino is a dinosaur tank with armor because he's not.

Dude, if that is the case, then the Carno is just as bad as the T-Rex. I am beginning think your still sore over the fact that Spino beat the Tyrannosaurus in J3.

No, but nice try. Anyways, your point fails. Dinosaur: Made by Disney, rated PG. Examples of violence... Plenty of animals die but there is little (if any) blood. Jurassic Park 3: Made by Universal, rated PG-13. Examples of violence... Many people and animals die. The Spino is knicked by the plane and his blood splatters over the windshield, the tyrannosaur draws blood, the tyrannosaur's neck is violently snapped, a velociraptor impales a man and bites his head (not explicit, but the implied violence is worse than anything in dinosaur).
Hey, if we're bringing up the other JPs: JP1: A goat is dismembered... It's bloody leg is dropped on the car, A man is ripped off a toilet and shaken like a toy, that same man's dismembered body is found later, A man's head is bitten by a raptor, another man's severed arm is found, a raptor jumps on the T rex and causes bloody wounds.
JP2: A man is torn in half by tyrannosaurs, another is killed by Comsognathus and his blood flows downstream, a man is killed by a tyrannosaur and his blood flows down a water fall, a man who flees the T rex is stepped on and sticks to the dinosaur's foot, another severed limb is holding the ship controls, and main bad guy has his leg broken and is slaughtered by the juvenile rex.

These movies earn their PG13. I'm beginning to think you need a reality check.

[Varan 1958]

I will never understand for the life of me how a 37 foot T-rex is a youngster. Most speicmens are lucky to reach that size in adulthood.

This. People who watch JP3 always get pissed off because the t-rex didn't win.


Anyways, Carnotaurus, in this match is likely to lose this. Sure, the Carnotaurus may be a fierce animal (the one in the film), but I doubt those "spikes" would be too much protection. They are more like small ridges or bumps. They aren't armor plating at all. Also, the Spinosaur will have the size advantage over the Carnotaurus, even if it is a small difference. The fight would be basically the fight between the T-rex and the Spinosaurus, only the T-rex would be slightly larger and would be much more of a match for the Spinosaurus.

Carnotaurus: 4/10
Spinosaurus: 6/10

[RedZillaKing]

Really glad someone else did this because I thought I'd have to. Spino isn't snapping the Carno's neck. In fact, at 45 feet this Carno would be scaled UP from the one shown in the pic by 5 feet. This Carnotaurus makes lil' rexy look like a pup.


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[PopInPicsPresents]

Really glad someone else did this because I thought I'd have to. Spino isn't snapping the Carno's neck. In fact, at 45 feet this Carno would be scaled UP from the one shown in the pic by 5 feet. This Carnotaurus makes lil' rexy look like a pup.


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So I made it smaller?

[RedZillaKing]

No, I said it would be scaled up from the pic. In truth, that Carno is even more monstrous than even I though. It's gonna shake Spino like a chew toy.

[Kaiju-King42]

Ooo. Funky. Now just how would the Godzillasaurus compare to them?

[RedZillaKing]

Ha! I want to see that too. Lemme see if I can whip something up....In Paint Anyone else appreciate the Vastatosaurus rex a lot more now?

[NSZ]

Huh, well... this is interesting... To everyone who says Spino's gonna win this because he'll be able to do the ol' snapping of the neck... he's not... The Carno got scaled to 45 feet in length and 20 feet tall, right? The Spino in JP3 is only 43 feet in length and 19 feet in height (top of fin), and his head only comes up to 16 feet. Gotta love the official size chart that came with the DVD.

So the Spino is now not only facing against a monster that can throw other well sized dinosaurs around (with both head and tail), but he's going up against one that's much bigger than him.

So much for the Isla Sorna super-predator.

[Kaiju-King42]

I appreciated the V-Rex since my first encounter in the King Kong game. Makes me wonder what a redesigned Gorosaurus would look like. (as he was modelled after the Allosaur/T-Rex in the original King Kong.)

[PopInPicsPresents]

Huh, well... this is interesting... To everyone who says Spino's gonna win this because he'll be able to do the ol' snapping of the neck... he's not... The Carno got scaled to 45 feet in length and 20 feet tall, right? The Spino in JP3 is only 43 feet in length and 19 feet in height (top of fin), and his head only comes up to 16 feet. Gotta love the official size chart that came with the DVD.

That's odd, the guys at Monster Archives got the sizing wrong

Height: 26 feet
Length: 50 feet

[NSZ]

That's odd, the guys at Monster Archives got the sizing wrong

Height: 26 feet
Length: 50 feet

Yeah, when I saw what they had listed, I got a gut feeling that something just wasn't right about it. Probably because I used to have the size chart mounted over my bedroom door at the old house, therefore seeing it everyday. Thank god for official documents, am I right?

So yeah, guys, with this new revelation, do you still think the Spino's gonna be able to win against Disney's monster?

[Inferno Rodan]

That's odd, the guys at Monster Archives got the sizing wrong

Height: 26 feet
Length: 50 feet

Umm. I'm almost positive we got those numbers from the official movie site...

[RedZillaKing]

Oh, do you run the Monster Archives site?

Well, here's the official word (as far as I know):



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[Inferno Rodan]

Oh, do you run the Monster Archives site?

MM runs it, but I'm on the staff, yes.

[Varan 1958]

That's odd, the guys at Monster Archives got the sizing wrong

Height: 26 feet
Length: 50 feet

Yeah, when I saw what they had listed, I got a gut feeling that something just wasn't right about it. Probably because I used to have the size chart mounted over my bedroom door at the old house, therefore seeing it everyday. Thank god for official documents, am I right?

So yeah, guys, with this new revelation, do you still think the Spino's gonna be able to win against Disney's monster?

Well, in that case, the Carnotaurus wins with ease. It's already shown that it is a powerhouse, so it could probably beat the Spino if it's that much larger than Spino.

[PopInPicsPresents]

Since the MA link says 26x50 I say we quit bitching about the official size and just use the one provided

[RedZillaKing]

Even with a five foot advantage the Carnotaurus is much more robust and a monster like that at 45 feet would still be the size he is in the picture (in comparison to the Spinosaurus). The Spino is gonna be just another prey animal.

[Primevalgodzilla V2]

Meat is meat. If that bite was in the least bit strong that Spino would've been toast. As it was, the Rex's bite barely broke the skin

That's silly. the Spino's a B-movie monster- he's obviously going to be inordinately insanely tough, even if it doesn't make any sense. Like how Godzilla can withstand missiles without being reduced to a pile of burnt meat.

Fence was in disrepair... Plane knicked him with the propeller.

And its still a steel fence no less. Bashign through one, even a weakened one, is an incredible feat. And the fence showed little signs of disrepair, the paint wasn;t even peeling! And I don't really see the point of the whole 'plane knicked him with the propeller'...

Iguanodons aren't rexes, that's for sure. However, the few seconds Aladar fought the Carno (before the beast was killed by its own weight) showed the Carno to be far superior. Obviously. Aladar merely used his superior stance, low center of gravity, and admittedly great strength to push the monster a few feet. As I'd said, the Carno wasn't taking him seriously. Moments before it had thrown a larger Iguanodon like 60 feet through the air.

Bullying something 3 times smaller than you is hardly a feat. And Aladar still managed to shove him around for abit, leading to his death. Carnotaurus never displayed enough personality to show he was playing with anything.

Wait... you don't recall him ripping massive chunks out of other dinosaurs in A DISNEY MOVIE AIMED AT KIDS? Come to think of it, neither do I. At any rate, we're dangerously close to the realm of silly here. We're talking about a film where the carno bites Aladar as he's falling and there's no damage to his flesh. Those teeth are goddamned sharp. It makes no sense. Oh. wait... It's a Disney movie aimed at kids.

Prove they are 'goddamned sharp'. Its a Disney movie, but is they didn't pierce flesh, they are weak. We base what we see from the film itself. I can fully understand why Carno wasn;t ripping chunks from his foes, but it diminishes his feats. Fullstop.

He attacked the door and couldn't bust through. That fence had been maintained for many years. It was likely very weakened by the hurricanes and the elements in general. The plane was as durable as a tin can. It was obviously very damage by the crash. As for the tyrannosaur's neck, it was NOT the bite that broke it. At all. Rather it was a twisting motion aided by the neck and arms of the Spino. Again... good luck doing that to a carnotaurus who (unlike the rex, who was 5 tons TOPS) is significantly larger and stronger.

We never saw how he attacked the door. For all we know, he could have been uanble to bash it with effective force because of how short it was. The plane was damaged, but its still steel and very durable, and the Spino was casually poking holes into it. And breraking a Rex's neck with your arms with little visible effort is bloody impressive.

Throwing an animal even half your weight with neck strength alone is incredible. We never saw Spino do anything like that. Other than the questionable feat of bashing through the fence. Which hadn't been been maintained for 7 or 8 years.

And its still a damned steel fence. A very thick steel fence he not just bashed through, but practically exploded when he ran through, with again, no injury. And also, breaking a Rex's neck with little effort. And poking holes into a plane with his snout.

Even with a five foot advantage the Carnotaurus is much more robust and a monster like that at 45 feet would still be the size he is in the picture (in comparison to the Spinosaurus). The Spino is gonna be just another prey animal.

The Spino is 8 metres tall here. He's going to be taller than the Carnotaurus. And just another prey animal? Really?

[RedZillaKing]

That's silly. the Spino's a B-movie monster- he's obviously going to be inordinately insanely tough, even if it doesn't make any sense. Like how Godzilla can withstand missiles without being reduced to a pile of burnt meat.

His toughness is inconsistent with the other theropods in the franchise who had their flesh pierced by everything from tranquilizer darts to wooden spikes. Besides, the skin had been broken... What did he have armored plating on his muscles? Godzilla is an entirely different story.

And its still a steel fence no less. Bashign through one, even a weakened one, is an incredible feat. And the fence showed little signs of disrepair, the paint wasn;t even peeling! And I don't really see the point of the whole 'plane knicked him with the propeller'...

The fence was rusted to shit. You can see that clearly. Not only that, but something smaller had previously smashed through. That's how the kid was able to slip through. The point was that the Spino was not indestructible.

Bullying something 3 times smaller than you is hardly a feat. And Aladar still managed to shove him around for abit, leading to his death. Carnotaurus never displayed enough personality to show he was playing with anything.

Look at how the Carno fights Kron. Then look at how he reacts to Aladar. Clearly taking the first fight more seriously. Why would he fight Aladar seriously? He had his kill, and Aladar was 1/3 his size.

Prove they are 'goddamned sharp'. Its a Disney movie, but is they didn't pierce flesh, they are weak. We base what we see from the film itself. I can fully understand why Carno wasn;t ripping chunks from his foes, but it diminishes his feats. Fullstop.

Here's your proof: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6bkZY4TGkA You get a real nice look at them at 1:21. Lookit dem butter knives! They're just as sharp as lil' rexy's. No feats were diminished... The Carnos bite things, things die. Unlike the rex, who couldn't seal the deal with a neck bite, the carnos are so powerful that their bites crush the bodies of their prey.

We never saw how he attacked the door. For all we know, he could have been uanble to bash it with effective force because of how short it was. The plane was damaged, but its still steel and very durable, and the Spino was casually poking holes into it. And breraking a Rex's neck with your arms with little visible effort is bloody impressive.

The Spinosaurus was MORE than capable of attacking low. That was shown several times before. As for the plane, he was viciously attacking it. There was nothing even slightly casual about it. And it was all sorts of screwed up by the time he started tearing it up. All bent and crumbled, it was far easier to tear into. And the rex's neck was broken by the arms and head all twisting simultaneously. Awesome, sure, but that's due more to the technique than ridiculous strength. It would be like me wrapping both arms around a 1,000 lb mans head and twisting. His own weight becomes the enemy.

The Spino is 8 metres tall here. He's going to be taller than the Carnotaurus. And just another prey animal? Really?

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So you think the sail's height matters here? It does not. They're both having their size increased by 5 or 6 feet, so the carno will remain proportionately larger. If you look at the pic I posted earlier, he's the perfect height for biting the back of the Spino's neck and shaking him just like the Pachyrhinosaurus in the beginning. So yes. Really.