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Monster Discussion: Godzilla (2004/Final Wars)

Postby gojira012 » Mon Aug 30, 2010 3:51 pm

Use this topic to discussion the Godzilla from the 2004 film Godzilla: Final Wars.

Personally, you have to admit the Final wars G is the best all around one out of all of them. I mean it blends the best of all worlds.

Best build, best height(or which ever height you prefer), most unique fighting style, most power and IQ, Best movement(so far)
none of the slowness or beam dependancy of heisi, some of showa's compassion but with the right amount of heisi's anti hero,
And no he DOES NOT look like a rat.
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Re: Final Wars Godzilla the best all around one

Postby GodzillaDude » Mon Aug 30, 2010 3:53 pm

gojira012 wrote:You have to admit the Final wars G is the best all around one out of all of them. I mean it blends the best of all worlds.

Best build, best height(or which ever height you prefer), most unique fighting style, most power and IQ, Best movement(so far)
none of the slowness or beam dependancy of heisi, some of showa's compassion but with the right amount of heisi's anti hero,
And no he DOES NOT look like a rat.


A little bit in the face he does.

If he's your favorite version of Godzilla that's fine but I doubt few if anyone here will agree that FW Godzilla is the best Godzilla.
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Re: Final Wars Godzilla the best all around one

Postby GodzillaDude » Mon Aug 30, 2010 4:43 pm

^ Why?
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Re: Final Wars Godzilla the best all around one

Postby godzilla1996 » Mon Aug 30, 2010 5:05 pm

I don't like the spines of FW Goji, but I like the fighting style, and what not.
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Re: Final Wars Godzilla the best all around one

Postby Gorosaurus Rex » Mon Aug 30, 2010 5:44 pm

gojira012 wrote:And no he DOES NOT look like a rat.


Yes....he does.


While he does blend a decent mix of size, and agility. The spines and head just ruin it for me. I can't stand them.
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Re: Final Wars Godzilla the best all around one

Postby gojira012 » Mon Aug 30, 2010 5:49 pm

Tyler wrote:
GodzillaDude wrote:^ Why?


If he gets too big he loses his scope, if that makes any sense. When he's smaller (well, still a giant monster) he's feels a little more tangible. I think it helps with miniatures too.



Actually if you look at Frank Parr's Kaijuverse deviantart page he has a size chart with buildings and his own monster Ironkus(who is 200ft) on it it's actually somewhat believeable
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Re: Final Wars Godzilla the best all around one

Postby Gigan X3 » Mon Aug 30, 2010 7:58 pm

Gorosaurus Rex wrote:
gojira012 wrote:And no he DOES NOT look like a rat.


Yes....he does.


While he does blend a decent mix of size, and agility. The spines and head just ruin it for me. I can't stand them.






Doesn't look like a rat to me.
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Re: Final Wars Godzilla the best all around one

Postby TokyoVigilante » Mon Aug 30, 2010 9:52 pm

I don't really think Godzillas power level is relevant to the "best" portrayal. As a general rule, he should just be the seen as an unpredictable destructive force. And no version fails in that regard. He shouldn't have to do over the top things to prove his strength, you should be ableyo get that impression from just looking at him.

The head looks more like a Caiman in profile, but the front it looks fine. And the spines are balanced weird though, but their shape and texture are great. Unlike the fleshy ballooned mess the Heisei Godzilla has.
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Re: Final Wars Godzilla the best all around one

Postby Goji » Tue Aug 31, 2010 6:28 am

The "Ratzilla" comment is clearly a reference to his face and snout. Of course he doesn't look like a rat overall. His face, especially the shape, is very reminiscent of a rat's face.
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Re: Final Wars Godzilla the best all around one

Postby Gigan X3 » Tue Aug 31, 2010 4:28 pm

Goji wrote:The "Ratzilla" comment is clearly a reference to his face and snout. Of course he doesn't look like a rat overall. His face, especially the shape, is very reminiscent of a rat's face.


I don't see the similarities. :?
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Re: Final Wars Godzilla the best all around one

Postby Goji » Tue Aug 31, 2010 8:02 pm

To each's own I suppose. He's a little goofy looking overall, regardless.
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Re: Final Wars Godzilla the best all around one

Postby JVM » Tue Aug 31, 2010 8:54 pm

Worst Japanese Godzilla ever, except SoG.
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Re: Final Wars Godzilla the best all around one

Postby Gigan X3 » Tue Aug 31, 2010 9:15 pm

Goji wrote:To each's own I suppose. He's a little goofy looking overall, regardless.


I think he can sometimes look gay because of the "nails" but not goofy.
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Re: Final Wars Godzilla the best all around one

Postby Goji » Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:19 am

Gigan X3 wrote:
Goji wrote:To each's own I suppose. He's a little goofy looking overall, regardless.


I think he can sometimes look gay because of the "nails" but not goofy.


LOL, that's a new one :lol:

I've always thought the actual build of the FinalGoji suit was retarded looking. When they first started talking about "smaller and more agile suits" during the production of the film, I didn't think we'd get something that was so ugly overall. Godzilla's joints, are just awkward looking.
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Re: Final Wars Godzilla the best all around one

Postby Gigan X3 » Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:25 am

Goji wrote:
Gigan X3 wrote:
Goji wrote:To each's own I suppose. He's a little goofy looking overall, regardless.


I think he can sometimes look gay because of the "nails" but not goofy.


LOL, that's a new one :lol:

I've always thought the actual build of the FinalGoji suit was retarded looking. When they first started talking about "smaller and more agile suits" during the production of the film, I didn't think we'd get something that was so ugly overall. Godzilla's joints, are just awkward looking.


Yes I agree with the joints but I find him better looking and moving less sillier than some Heise( Too obvious suits ) or Showa suits( Too bouncy ).
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Re: Final Wars Godzilla the best all around one

Postby YawnMasta » Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:01 pm

I thought the suit looked fine from different angles.
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Re: Final Wars Godzilla the best all around one

Postby gojira012 » Fri Sep 03, 2010 3:28 pm

Goji wrote:
Gigan X3 wrote:
Goji wrote:To each's own I suppose. He's a little goofy looking overall, regardless.


I think he can sometimes look gay because of the "nails" but not goofy.


LOL, that's a new one :lol:

I've always thought the actual build of the FinalGoji suit was retarded looking. When they first started talking about "smaller and more agile suits" during the production of the film, I didn't think we'd get something that was so ugly overall. Godzilla's joints, are just awkward looking.



Goofy!!!! GAY!!!!!

That look was straight up BADASSERY
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Re: Final Wars Godzilla the best all around one

Postby Darkness » Fri Sep 03, 2010 5:58 pm

Easily one of my least favorite suits. It just seems so much more lazy than every other Millennium suit. The dorsal fins look incredibly simple and Godzilla's head looks weird. I can see where they were coming from when they wanted to thin Godzilla down, but one of the things that gives Godzilla that sense of power is how massive he is. When you slim him down, he loses that presence.
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Re: Final Wars Godzilla the best all around one

Postby gojira012 » Fri Sep 03, 2010 6:30 pm

I started this thread to help people see the positives in it but all I'm getting is the same insults and naysay they do on all other forums
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Re: Final Wars Godzilla the best all around one

Postby gojira012 » Fri Sep 03, 2010 6:36 pm

Godzilla 2000 wrote:
gojira012 wrote:I started this thread to help people see the positives in it but all I'm getting is the same insults and naysay they do on all other forums


Yeah, them damn opinions. They ruin threads, dont they?


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