Concerning the Heisei manga series

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Re: Concerning the Heisei manga series

Postby Mr. MADNESS » Sat Jan 14, 2012 9:33 am

I perfer the ending that was cut. The one toho left in the movie made Big G go out like a big loser.
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Re: Concerning the Heisei manga series

Postby Blackout286 » Sat Jan 14, 2012 10:03 am

Mr. MADNESS wrote:I perfer the ending that was cut. The one toho left in the movie made Big G go out like a big loser.


....Really? A Big loser?
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Re: Concerning the Heisei manga series

Postby RedZillaKing » Sat Jan 14, 2012 10:26 am

Yes. A big loser. As in he didn't defeat the monster in the end. What he won because he died second?
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Re: Concerning the Heisei manga series

Postby Blackout286 » Sat Jan 14, 2012 10:45 am

I don't see Godzilla to be a big loser in the film just because he didn't kill Destoroyah, it was more of a hollow victory IMO.
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Re: Concerning the Heisei manga series

Postby RedZillaKing » Sat Jan 14, 2012 10:49 am

It was a hollow victory for the JSDF. Alas poor Fatzilla couldn't even avenge his son properly.
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Re: Concerning the Heisei manga series

Postby ゴジラ » Sat Jan 14, 2012 10:58 am

Actually, he did avenge him properly. Destoroyah managed to kill Godzilla by killing off Junior, thus ending the creature's line. Godzilla was going to meltdown anyway, and with no Junior around, well, you get it. But, with Godzilla resurrecting Junior through meltdown, he did avenge properly by taking away Dessy's main victory away.

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Re: Concerning the Heisei manga series

Postby RedZillaKing » Sat Jan 14, 2012 11:03 am

Interesting take on it, ゴジラ.
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Re: Concerning the Heisei manga series

Postby Captain Aktion » Sat Jan 14, 2012 1:14 pm

I like the idea that the JSDF finally, finally managed to be instrumental in the demise of a kaiju. Not just any Kaiju either, the G-Killer himself, Destroyah. This should be a major win for them, a vindication and justification for all the failed plans throughout the series...but, oh yeah, Godzilla is going to kill the planet anyway. Yay.

It should be a major downer, a huge somber moment before the end of everything. Then, out of nowhere, the Godzilla roar and Junior rising from the ashes. I dunno, it's a cool idea and would've really had some weight to it...if it were pulled off well. The ending as it is seems rushed and takes absolutely no advantage of any of the drama inherent in the scene.

I don't know what I'm trying to say here exactly, but this kind of dead, flat storytelling is my biggest problem with the entire Heisei series...
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Re: Concerning the Heisei manga series

Postby Tyler » Sat Jan 14, 2012 4:30 pm

I find it sad Godzilla died thinking his son was dead (for good).
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Re: Concerning the Heisei manga series

Postby Captain Aktion » Sun Jan 15, 2012 12:41 am

^Goes with the territory for ole G. He loses everything because this isn't his world. All he ever does is try to make his way and find a way to exist and a reason for doing so, and life keeps reminding him that he really needs to just go away.

Jesus, it just hit me. Maybe that's why the Heisei series is so popular; it expresses that alienated post Me-Too Generation that most of us have grown up in the most eloquently. Godzilla is the ultimate New Waver/Goth/Grunge/Skater/Emo kid in those films. He just gets to actually, y'know, F' up the establishment and what not.

Epiphanies, people!
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