About Gamera trilogy Blu-Ray

[Joehrex]

Hello, I bought Gamera Trilogy on Blu-ray from Walmart and it should come to my house soon. The three films of Heisei Gamera on blu-ray are transferred from the original film elements. The original film elements and the actual original camera negatives are the complete uncut versions (unless they are cut). When I went to the Japanese language forum sites that are talking about Gamera trilogy on Blu-ray, they said that the American blu-ray versions of Gamera films 1 and 2 are the extened versions, longer than the Japanese Blu-ray versions. Here is the transcript of theses messages. They're in Japanese. Please translate them in English.

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"買おうかどうか迷っているので情報サンクス

尼のクチコミ：海外版Blu-rayにもこの商品についての書き込みが

">平成ガメラ3部作（トリロジー）ブルーレイ-box（us ver.)
>日本版も所持していますが、あまりに安かったので買ってしまいました。(以下に比較)

>us版bd２枚組
>仕様：リージョンa(日本のｂｄプレイヤーで再生可、画質は何故か米版の方が良いです。)
>音声：日本語（dts-hd5.1ch、日本版はdd-hd5.1chどちらもロスレスですが、米版の方が音も良いです。）
>字幕：英語
>ガメラ１　103分（日本版は95分）
>ガメラ２　114分（日本版は100分）
>ガメラ３　108分（日本版も同じ108分）
>ガメラ１と２の米版は日本版未公開シーン入りのエクステンデッド版。

「日本版未公開シーン」というのが気になる"

"北米版「ガメラトリロジー」
WOWOW録画版より画質悪い…
>ガメラ１と２の米版は日本版未公開シーン入りのエクステンデッド版
でもWOWOW録画版と同じだったけどなぁ"



"家帰ったら確認してみるけど、未公開シーンって「２」だけ
だったと思う。北米版なので、日本未公開シーンじゃなくて
アメリカ公開（されてたら）時カットのことでは？
因みに「3」には削除シーン集が特典でついてる。
安いとはいえちょっと…な出来かも。"


"WOWOW放送版＞北米版BD＞日本版BD
なのか？　BS11放送版はどのあたりだろう。っていうか日本版BDってそんなに画質悪いの？"

"さっき帰宅してガメラ確認してみたけど…
「１」本編95分
「２」本編99分
ジャケットの誤表記だね。
未公開シーンというのは「2」の特典で自衛隊の一斉射撃シーンの全長版。
暗くてよく分からないシーン。
ただ、日本語テロップがついてるから、国内版のＤＶＤかＢＤにも
入ってる特典だと思う。
国内版は見てないので分からないけどグレインは比較的目立たない
気がする。
価格的には問題ないかもしれないけど、国内版レンタルできるなら
買わなくてもいいかも…。
正直、尼のレビューはあまり当てにならない（dd-hd5.1って何よ？）"

"US版ガメラについての感想ありがとう "

[Chris55]

^That's a recipe to make chocolate chip cookies

[Joehrex]

My sister loves cookies.

[Tohosaurus]

^That's a recipe to make chocolate chip cookies

"き帰宅してガメラ確認" actually indicates that they will be brown-eyed susans, not chocolate chip.

[Biollante]

I think it says Domo arigato, Mr Roboto.

[Joehrex]

This isn't time for jokes you know...

[Cimmerian Dragon]

This isn't time for jokes you know...

This is a message board, not an operating room. It's always time for a joke.

[Joehrex]

Oh... okay...

[Tohosaurus]

This isn't time for jokes you know...

In all honesty I don't know if anyone on these boards can read and translate Japanese.

[UltramanGoji]

This isn't time for jokes you know...

IT'S TIME FOR ACTION!

Welcome to Toho Kingdom, where there's always time for a joke.

[RyanClark]

I ran it though Google Translate and they seem to be trying to make the case the Mill Creek BD release are longer versions than the Japanese ones. I went and checked the ADV DVDs and Mill Creek BD, and they both have the same original runtimes. So if I understood it correctly, this guy is wrong. Also he appears to claim the version WOWOW ran on TV looks better than the US release, but the US one looks better than the Japanese BD.

[Joehrex]

I was also heard about the Gamera airing the series in uncut forum on BS11 Japan TV channel. Does the BS11 TV version of Heisei Gamera series have scenes that weren't shown on DVD or Blu-ray?

[goji1986]

I was also heard about the Gamera airing the series in uncut forum on BS11 Japan TV channel. Does the BS11 TV version of Heisei Gamera series have scenes that weren't shown on DVD or Blu-ray?

As far as I know there has never been any altered version of those movies. No extended cuts or anything like that.


So....no.

[Joehrex]

Has anybody saw Gamera films on BS11 TV? There is a guy named "ゼガスト" has watched Heisei Gamera films (2 and 3) on BS11 channel in HD. He said that there are scenes not in the non-cut version.


"初めまして、ゼガストです。 昨日、ガメラ2と3を観ました。ノンカット版で観た事の無いシーンが幾つかあって楽しめました。大人向けで重い内容ですね。平成ガメラシリーズは俺が小学校の時に公開されてたんですが、劇場で観ました。その後10年近くして高校3年の時にレンタルビデオ店でレンタルで観ていた事を覚えてます。レンタル落ちですが、ビデオを持ってます。明日の「小さき勇者達-ガメラ-」も観ようと思いますんで、宜しくお願いします。DVD持ってます。因みに昭和シリーズと「ガメラ-大怪獣空中決戦-」は観てません。 観れないばかりだと思い込んでたばかりに･･･。 9月の再放送、観ます。頑張ってください、それでは。"

and

"ゼガストです、久々ですね。 「ちょくちょく来る」って言っといて来なくてすいません。皆さん、覚えてますよね?初めての人には初めまして、ゼガストです。

早速話題ですが、BS11と言うBSのチャンネルを知ってますか? そこでガメラ全12作品が放送されてます。 去年、日本映画専門チャンネルでゴジラの全28作連続放送がされたのと似た様な事です。 俺自身は当初これはBS11を観れない物だと完全に思い込んでました。 観れると分かってからはちゃんと観てます。ノンカット版だそうで、観た事の無いシーンもありました。 最初に観たのは一昨日のガメラ2と3を観ました(昨日は放送されませんでした)。 今日放送されるのは「小さき勇者達-GAMERA-」(時間:20:00~22:00)が放送されますので観ようと思います。 更にガメラシリーズのBLUE-LEYのプレゼントがあり、俺は残念だけど応募しません。観れる環境が無いからです。 再放送があるそうで見逃した分はそれで取り戻そうと思います。 観れるならご覧になってみれば幸いです。 それでは。"

[o.supreme]

I'm about to pick this up because it is so inexpensive. My quesiton is, should I still hold on to my ADV release DVD's? Are all the same extras on the BRD's? I just dont like to have mutiple copies of the same movie if I can help it.

Also throught he magic of on-line translating services, here's part of Joehrex last post:

《主語なし》It is ゼガスト for the first time. Yesterday, ガメラ 2 and 3 was observed. How many つ or the scene without that that observed it with a/the ノンカット version is and able to have fun. 《主語なし》It is heavy contents with a/the grown-up direction. A/the Heisei ガメラ series observed it in a/the theater, although it was disclosed when I am an elementary school. 《主語なし》It makes near in 10 after that and be rental at the time of high school 3 in a rental video store and be learning it that was observing it. 《主語なし》Although it is a rent omission it has a/the video. Tomorrow's "small heroes-ガメラ-" even thank you, because I intend to observe it. 《主語なし》It has a/the DVD. 《主語なし》A/the Showa series and "a ガメラ-large monster air decisive battle to be connected-" it is not observing it. 《主語なし》ば that was thinking that it is about to be not able to observe it tentatively/ . 《主語なし》September in it broadcasts, observe it. Please make efforts and then. '

And

《主語なし》' It is ゼガスト and be after a long time. 《主語なし》"It has not been with って word っ that comes" often and excuse me. 《主語なし》Is it ね that is learning everybody? 《主語なし》It is ゼガスト for the first time, to the first person.

《主語なし》Although it is a topic promptly are you knowing the channel of BS that says BS11? Thereupon, the ガメラ all 12 work is broadcast. 《主語なし》It is that the manner that resembled with that all the 28 made continuation broadcast of Godzilla were done with a/the Japanese movie speciality channel last year. 《主語なし》I was thinking completely that I myself am this the thing that is not able to observe BS11 at the beginning. 《主語なし》It is observing it properly after I understand that it is able to observe it. There was the scene without that that, is said to be a ノンカット version and observed. 《主語なし》It observed ガメラ 2 and 3 in the day before yesterday that it observed it first it was not broadcast (yesterday). 《主語なし》I intend to observe it because "small heroes-GAMERA-" (time: 20:00~22:00) are broadcast that it is broadcast today. There is the present of BLUE-LEY of a ガメラ series furthermore and do not apply even though I am regrettable. 《主語なし》It is because there is not the environment where it is able to observe. 《主語なし》Be said to there be broadcast and intend to retake the minute when it overlooked with it. 《主語なし》It is fortunate if you try to see it if it is able to observe it. It is then. '

[Tyler]

I'm keeping my ADV set as the subs are better and the features are a bit different. The main being a really cool interview with Shinji Higuchi.

[kpa]

When I went to the Japanese language forum sites that are talking about Gamera trilogy on Blu-ray, they said that the American blu-ray versions of Gamera films 1 and 2 are the extened versions, longer than the Japanese Blu-ray versions.

The advertising and packaging for Mill Creek's Gamera Blu-rays list wrong running times:

http://www.scifijapan.com/articles/2010 ... e-blu-ray/

So some Japanese fans may have seen that and (understandably) thought Mill Creek had longer versions of the movies. But the films on the discs have the same running times as the Japanese versions.

I have the Japanese press kits for these movies, as well as the theater programs, and whenever the running time is mentioned its consistent. I've also seen all three movies in theaters, have the Japanese DVD box set, the ADV DVDs and the Mill Creek Blu-rays. They all have the same running times and there's no extended versions with extra footage or anything like that. The biggest difference was with the ADV versions because they added English credits to the ends of the movies, but that would have changed the running times by maybe a minute or so... and Mill Creek didn't used those versions, anyway. Their recent Blu-rays have new transfers from Kadokawa.