The Biggest Millenium Letdown

[SuperSaiyan4Godzilla]

GMK.

It had the potential to be more than just Godzilla fights Mothra and King Ghidorah XVII

[GotengoXGodzilla]

Godzilla: Final Wars is not only the biggest letdown of the Millennium series, but the biggest letdown of the entire franchise. Let's ignore for a moment that it's one of the worst made films of the series...This was suppose to be the 50th anniversary tribute to Godzilla, celebrating one of the longest running film franchises in history. And yet, the film is more-or-less a huge middle finger to the entire series and its fans, with only having about twelve minutes of screen time for Godzilla in a two-hour film. For this film, the monsters don't matter whatsoever, and would rather focus on being a Matrix rip-off.

There is no bigger insult to the franchise than GFW.

Well, there's GINO. Of course GFW's case is more baffling, as one wouldn't expect a Toho Godzilla film to sail into such waters.

I maybe in the minority on this, but I firmly believe that GFW is a bigger insult to the Godzilla franchise than GINO. GINO wasn't meant to be a celebration of a long running film franchise, unlike GFW.

[Shadow]

Godzilla: Final Wars is not only the biggest letdown of the Millennium series, but the biggest letdown of the entire franchise. Let's ignore for a moment that it's one of the worst made films of the series...This was suppose to be the 50th anniversary tribute to Godzilla, celebrating one of the longest running film franchises in history. And yet, the film is more-or-less a huge middle finger to the entire series and its fans, with only having about twelve minutes of screen time for Godzilla in a two-hour film. For this film, the monsters don't matter whatsoever, and would rather focus on being a Matrix rip-off.

There is no bigger insult to the franchise than GFW.

He speaks the truth! You get a Christmas hug.

[Flygon King]

GMK.

It had the potential to be more than just Godzilla fights Mothra and King Ghidorah XVII

Hey! Why you leaving poor Baragon out in the cold?

GMK was FAR from being the biggest letdown of the Millenium series. That honor goes to Final Wars. Most of the problems that I see here about GMK can be traced back to Toho shoving Mothra in Varan's place, and Ghidorah in Anguirous's place.

Final Wars, on the other hand... I believe the others who came before me say why it's such a huge letdown very clearly.

[XxComablack1937xX]

I don't mean to sound like the sour apple of the entire group but i thought the entire millenium series was a let down...

Godzilla 2000 was alright, but nothing special to be remembered. The only thing it really had going for it was the quick turn around for fan's after Emmerich's failure.

Godzilla vs Megaguirus was terrible all around, the monster was lame, the effects seemed cheap, didn't care for the Godzilla suit at all.. an the plot was all over the damn place

GMK it just had so much potential to be better, mothra is worn out an King Ghidorah needs a much better update

Godzilla vs Mechagodzilla it was just a boring movie at-least to me

Tokyo S.O.S. while slightly better i hate Mecha-G's design in this an how he's portrayed an once again Mothra is just Ugh

Final Wars - What everyone else has said needs more monsters, less matrix an for a 50th anniversary film it was a serious let down.

Overall i haven't been so disappointed by a series of films since the later showa films before the Original 1974 G-vs-Mecha-G.... Which is why i am happy to hear of an American Reboot to bring some life back into this franchise because to me personally the Millenium series did not do it.

[SuperSaiyan4Godzilla]

GMK.

It had the potential to be more than just Godzilla fights Mothra and King Ghidorah XVII

Hey! Why you leaving poor Baragon out in the cold?

GMK was FAR from being the biggest letdown of the Millenium series. That honor goes to Final Wars. Most of the problems that I see here about GMK can be traced back to Toho shoving Mothra in Varan's place, and Ghidorah in Anguirous's place.

Final Wars, on the other hand... I believe the others who came before me say why it's such a huge letdown very clearly.

Because Baragon shows up and blows up. Kthanxbai

[Kaiju-King42]

I never really cared about Ghidorah being small, weak, and a good guy in GMK for one simple reason. It's not King Ghidorah. Just as Grand King Ghidorah is a different creature, so is this Ghidorah, or as I like to call him: Guardian Ghidorah.

If one movie let me down, it was Godzilla vs Megaguirus. I always loved that big bug from Save the Earth, and was really excited to see the movie when I saw it in a Movie Rental store, along with GMK. Don't think I have to say which one I preferred.

[Legion1979]

TOM was boss. And Gfw was not as bad as people make it to be. Remember Godzillas Revenge

Nah, Godzilla's Revenge is better than GFW. Revenge is just trying to be a cute kids film on a tight budget. FW is trying to be the best God damned thing in the entire franchise with the biggest budget and publicity campaign of any Godzilla. And it turned out to be a gigantic, insulting piece of absolute shit. It bombed, embarrassed the living f@ck out of Toho and was basically a franchise killer.

I love the "remember Godzilla's Revenge" comment, as if Revenge is a known piece of garbage we all just happened to forget was so terrible. Nope.

[Primevalgodzilla V2]

Why is the main criticism of GMK, the one that seems to make it fail to reach all its potentital, is that 'it used Mothra and King Ghidorah'? That's hardly relevant to the films quality IMO. And as much as one would like to see the lesser used monsters, does anyone honestly think that Varan and Anguirus would make better regal legendary guardians than a spirit moth and a golden dragon?

[Ethan]

The criticism comes based on the assumption that because they're in roles that weren't written for them, Ghidorah and Mothra ended up doing things that were out of character. It's stated that Ghidorah burrowing underground is ridiculous, as is Mothra coming from a lake. Those moments last seconds and bear little importance in the plot, but to some people it's really painful to see a fictional golden serpent coming from the ground.

[Primevalgodzilla V2]

I think King Ghidorah's 'burrowing' is greatly exaggerated. To my knowledge, he just rose from the Earth, a common trope for powerful characters to make their entrace. And Mothra Larva is one oft he most aquatic kaiju around, and one of her most iconic scenes involve her swimming.

[TokyoVigilante]

I find that people put way to much stock into the monsters when they criticize films in this genre as a whole. While Ghidorah and Mothra being out of character does feel odd, it has little bearing on the film in question which is quite great in all regards, IMO.

But I don't like the Heisei-goji or the Megaro-goji designs or incarnations that well, but it has little to no effect on my overall opinion of the films they appear in. There are far more legitimate criticisms of films like Terror of Mechagodzilla and Godzilla vs. Mothra: BftE then "I don't like how Godzilla looks". But I digress.

The biggest disappointment for me is Godzilla X Mechagodzilla; we have a great universe set-up, the best incarnation of the "G-Force" concept (the JXSDF) to date, a fantastic spin on a classic franchise staple (Mechagodzilla), and some decent characters and a great conflict set-up but the film decides to deflate it for no reason.

Kiryu, a weapon that the JXSDF has realized it can't fully control, is forced to send it out against Godzilla and risk setting loose two Godzilla's on the city. How great of a final battle could that have been? Kiryu and Godzilla duke it out, but Kiryu could go berserk and turn feral at any moment. How would a feral Kiryu fight? Would it ignore Godzilla and turn on the city? Would it tear Godzilla to pieces?

Such greatness was set-up then just "fixed away". That's a big let down for me. On a similar note, instead of using Mothra's demands for the dismantlement of Kiryu in Tokyo SOS as an interesting metaphor for the military relationship between the United States and Japan, they don't do anything with it.

G2K is solid and charming, GxM is just garbage overall, GMK doesn't have any substantial letdowns[/i], and Final Wars is like a fat drunk girl at a party; loud, brightly coloured, shallow, obnoxious, but fun to watch stumble around and trash the living room and laugh at with your friends.

[Rody]

I've said this before: Mothra is actually a very appropriate choice for GMK, since she has always been a monster with a mythos behind her. King Ghidorah's appearance fits the role, but his character does not.

Tokyo S.O.S. while slightly better i hate Mecha-G's design in this an how he's portrayed an once again Mothra is just Ugh

I personally think Kiryu is the best design for Mechagodzilla we've gotten yet. And what on EARTH is wrong with Mothra?????

[TokyoVigilante]

The problem with Kiryu is that his distinct characterization is to associated with the design. You couldn't really ever use it again without it being weird that it isn't "Kiryu" and not just "Mechagodzilla", and the character of Kiryu is never coming back so the design probably won't either.

But Tokyo SOS Mothra is perfect. There aren't many designs of any sort of creature that can be considered perfect, but holy shit that prop is perfection.

[Legion1979]

Why is the main criticism of GMK, the one that seems to make it fail to reach all its potentital, is that 'it used Mothra and King Ghidorah'? That's hardly relevant to the films quality IMO. And as much as one would like to see the lesser used monsters, does anyone honestly think that Varan and Anguirus would make better regal legendary guardians than a spirit moth and a golden dragon?

Even if Godzilla had fought a different guardian monster at the end of the film I doubt it would have done anything to change the stop/start/stop/start nature of the battle and the artificial tension of Yuki being in the wrong place at the wrong time over and over again.

[Primevalgodzilla V2]

Even if Godzilla had fought a different guardian monster at the end of the film I doubt it would have done anything to change the stop/start/stop/start nature of the battle and the artificial tension of Yuki being in the wrong place at the wrong time over and over again.

That kind of proves my point. A different choice of monster does not reverse the flaws or improve the highs of the film, and I wonder why people keep going on as though it is some sort of fatal flaw they sued Mothra and KG.

[Gigan X3]

I never really cared about Ghidorah being small, weak, and a good guy in GMK for one simple reason. It's not King Ghidorah. Just as Grand King Ghidorah is a different creature, so is this Ghidorah, or as I like to call him: Guardian Ghidorah.

http://www.tohokingdom.com/kaiju/king_g ... ill.htm#kg

Woops! It is King Ghidorah!

[Tohosaurus]

The biggest disappointment for me is Godzilla X Mechagodzilla; we have a great universe set-up, the best incarnation of the "G-Force" concept (the JXSDF) to date, a fantastic spin on a classic franchise staple (Mechagodzilla), and some decent characters and a great conflict set-up but the film decides to deflate it for no reason.

Kiryu, a weapon that the JXSDF has realized it can't fully control, is forced to send it out against Godzilla and risk setting loose two Godzilla's on the city. How great of a final battle could that have been? Kiryu and Godzilla duke it out, but Kiryu could go berserk and turn feral at any moment. How would a feral Kiryu fight? Would it ignore Godzilla and turn on the city? Would it tear Godzilla to pieces?

Such greatness was set-up then just "fixed away". That's a big let down for me. On a similar note, instead of using Mothra's demands for the dismantlement of Kiryu in Tokyo SOS as an interesting metaphor for the military relationship between the United States and Japan, they don't do anything with it.

Should you ever have the time, I'd be highly interested in you writing a sort of "remake" of Godzilla Against Mechagodzilla and how that would transition into SOS (or what you'd do with that film, even dropping it).

[Gojisan866]

I'm gonna go with a lot of people and say GFW. It had so much potential, especially being a 50th anniversary film. It turned out to be pretty much a remake of DAM with some obvious changes.

[Gyaos]

Godzilla 2000 and Godzilla vs Megaguirus. I cant watch either without wanting to kill msyelf. They're incredibly boring and the characters make it more annoying. From the irritating Godzilla weather watchers to the incompitent G-graspers.