Monster Discussion #32: Gigan (Showa)

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Re: Monster Discussion #32: Gigan (Showa)

Postby Rody » Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:52 am

I like how Gigan' design is border-line between believable an ridiculous. The '72 suit is not sloppy; the reason the design works is because the suit was so well designed. The '73 suit, on the other hand... :sigh:
Although I like FW Gigan, something about the new design just doesn't quite work. I think the problem is that this suit makes Gigan all dark & edgy, whereas part of the original suit's charm is it's outlandishness; you don't quite take him seriously. The FW suit tries to be really cool and serious, but it doesn't quite fit the character.
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Re: Monster Discussion #32: Gigan (Showa)

Postby Tohosaurus » Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:43 am

Love Gigan! He's completely bonkers looking and acts like how I would imagine a cyborg of his caliber would act (aka ruthless). He's pure, unadulterated, naked entertainment.
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Re: Monster Discussion #32: Gigan (Showa)

Postby HayesAJones » Wed Oct 05, 2011 5:31 pm

Tohosaurus wrote:... naked entertainment.

Oh my.
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Re: Monster Discussion #32: Gigan (Showa)

Postby Tohosaurus » Wed Oct 05, 2011 5:40 pm

Rody wrote:The '73 suit, on the other hand... :sigh:
Although I like FW Gigan, something about the new design just doesn't quite work.

I'm with ya on the comparison between the two Showa suits, at least somewhat. I much prefer the first suit. My issue with the FW Gigan is its teeth. It cheapens the look for me, somehow. It would've been nice if he had more fight time, too.

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Tohosaurus wrote:... naked entertainment.

Oh my.

Teehee.
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Re: Monster Discussion #32: Gigan (Showa)

Postby Rody » Wed Oct 05, 2011 5:57 pm

That BC figure makes him look worse than he is.
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Re: Monster Discussion #32: Gigan (Showa)

Postby Tyler » Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:56 pm

I like this hybrid design with the freaky humanoid teeth:
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Re: Monster Discussion #32: Gigan (Showa)

Postby TitanoGoji16 » Thu Oct 06, 2011 1:31 am

Tohosaurus wrote: My issue with the FW Gigan is its teeth. It cheapens the look for me, somehow.


Showa Gigan has teeth, dude.
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Re: Monster Discussion #32: Gigan (Showa)

Postby Tohosaurus » Thu Oct 06, 2011 5:01 am

TitanoGoji16 wrote:Showa Gigan has teeth, dude.

I said I didn't like his teeth, not that I didn't like the fact that he had teeth. ;) They're too big and cheesy for me.

By comparison:

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See? They aren't as big. It's just my opinion anyhow.
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Re: Monster Discussion #32: Gigan (Showa)

Postby King Caesar » Thu Oct 06, 2011 10:06 am

^ Idk I feel Gigan Millennium had better dentures, but thats just me. I like Showa Gigan mainly for his uniqueness and nostalgia effect. I feel like Showa Gigan just screams 70's...anyone else think that?
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Re: Monster Discussion #32: Gigan (Showa)

Postby HayesAJones » Thu Oct 06, 2011 1:10 pm

I dislike Millennium Gigan's big, cartoon-y, triangle teeth. Seem kinda silly. At least Showa Gigan's look like they fit in his mouth.
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Re: Monster Discussion #32: Gigan (Showa)

Postby Showa Gyaos » Fri Oct 07, 2011 2:58 pm

King Caesar wrote:^ Idk I feel Gigan Millennium had better dentures, but thats just me. I like Showa Gigan mainly for his uniqueness and nostalgia effect. I feel like Showa Gigan just screams 70's...anyone else think that?

Yeah, because his strange appearance fit the defined silliness of the 1970s Godzilla movies.
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Re: Monster Discussion #32: Gigan (Showa)

Postby Rody » Sun Oct 09, 2011 4:40 pm

Actually, I think Showa Gigan did have some large teeth, but they were all in the back of his mouth, hidden by the mandibles.
FW Gigan's mandibles stick out more; thus they don't cover up the teeth.
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Re: Monster Discussion #32: Gigan (Showa)

Postby therealmccoy » Sun Oct 09, 2011 7:52 pm

Rody wrote:Actually, I think Showa Gigan did have some large teeth, but they were all in the back of his mouth, hidden by the mandibles.
FW Gigan's mandibles stick out more; thus they don't cover up the teeth.

If I remember correctly, there are only a select few shots in the movie that you can see them. One being during his attack on Tokyo; the camera zooms in for a close-up shot of him screeching, and there his teeth are. I think; its been a week or two since I watched it. But I'll take that over the FW version. He was cool, but he seemed too much like a robot, whereas the Showa version looked more like an organism.

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Re: Monster Discussion #32: Gigan (Showa)

Postby Zornow13 » Sun Dec 11, 2011 12:26 am

Gigan is easily my favorite G-villan! ( neck and neck with Mecha-G). I love just about everything about this space monster! I LOVE that weird diamond meteor that he hatches from, it really adds to his alien origins. I was SOOO stoked when they brought him back in Final Wars. Also another monster with an AWESOME screeching roar, the Mandibles, the hooked arms, THE BUZZSAW ANND he comes from a place called NEBULA-M-SPACE HUNTER! that is ridiculously cool!
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Re: Monster Discussion #32: Gigan (Showa)

Postby Bentley » Sun Dec 11, 2011 7:50 am

Frankly, it was good to have Gigan making a big came back at FW, for whatever reason. This is some classic Godzilla enemy that actually works, has an emblematic and distinctive look, and it's unrelated with Godzilla -unlike many of the Heisei monsters-. Designwise, they hit the ball off the park, this guy looks like a surrealist painting in the best possible way.

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Re: Monster Discussion #32: Gigan (Showa)

Postby daftfalloutgoji » Sun Dec 18, 2011 8:11 am

Gigan is a boss monster but his first two movies sucked ass. I mean Jun Funkuda did a good job creating Gigan but The movies he was in sucked badly. Final wars finally brought out his badness to the core
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Re: Monster Discussion #32: Gigan (Showa)

Postby MechaJahgeezilla » Sun Dec 18, 2011 7:17 pm

Gigan is hilarous. He really looks like a robot chicken though.
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Re: Monster Discussion #32: Gigan (Showa)

Postby Shadow » Fri Dec 23, 2011 12:27 pm

MechaJahgeezilla wrote:Gigan is hilarous. He really looks like a robot chicken though.


Then he would done great in the show Robot Chicken.
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Re: Monster Discussion #32: Gigan (Showa)

Postby Rody » Fri Dec 23, 2011 1:24 pm

Personally, I've never seen how Gigan resembles a chicken.
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Re: Monster Discussion #32: Gigan (Showa)

Postby Killswitch » Fri Dec 30, 2011 8:17 am

daftfalloutgoji wrote:Gigan is a boss monster but his first two movies sucked ass. I mean Jun Funkuda did a good job creating Gigan but The movies he was in sucked badly. Final wars finally brought out his badness to the core


Yes, would of been nice to see Gigan AND Megalon in better films with larger budgets. Both have weapons/powers that were not shown to their fullest.
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