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Re: The Kamen Rider thread

Postby Crocodile » Sat Dec 10, 2011 12:58 pm

HikizuruBeat wrote:So I'll probably watch

W (started)
OOO (started)
Orignal Series (started)
Black
Kiva (started)
Den-O (out of curiosity)

Any other suggestions?


Skip Den-O he sucks ballz, and won't go away
Watch
Kabuto
Amazon (Seriously I love this guy he's crazy)
Faiz
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Re: The Kamen Rider thread

Postby HikizuruBeat » Sat Dec 10, 2011 4:06 pm

Crocodile wrote:
HikizuruBeat wrote:So I'll probably watch

W (started)
OOO (started)
Orignal Series (started)
Black
Kiva (started)
Den-O (out of curiosity)

Any other suggestions?


Skip Den-O he sucks ballz, and won't go away
Watch
Kabuto
Amazon (Seriously I love this guy he's crazy)
Faiz


I want to watch den-o because I want to know why is he so popular. I DON'T UNDERSTAND I MUST KNOW.

OH! That's right I wanted to watch amazon. That's going on my list so is Kabuto.

I'll give Faiz a try, but not a fan of his suit.

What about Decade?
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Re: The Kamen Rider thread

Postby Crocodile » Sat Dec 10, 2011 4:22 pm

What about Decade?


Decade is alright, but it tends to make all Riders that aren't Decade look bad. Especially Kuuga. Honestly the best part of Decade was when he wandered into the Sentai world, and fights with the Shinkengers. They recast and re-write everyone's world
Ex. Kiva Now like 10, and Prince of the Fangire, and Fangire and Humans live side by side in harmony. Some humans even get angry at Decade for fighting one.

Also
Black RX, now fighting Apollo Geist for some reason (Okay that one was kinda cool)

Decade can also spoil major plot points for the previous series, in spite of this. Kabuto and Faiz in particular.

You can also check out, The First, and The Next. They're pretty good retellings of Ichigo, Nigo, and V3
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Re: The Kamen Rider thread

Postby DaikaijuSokogeki! » Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:56 pm

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Then Kamen Rider Shin is Guyver.


No! Shin Kamen Rider is Kamen Rider if Toei didn't gave Ishinomori limits bacj in 1971. Even tought,we still see people turned into skeletons(what the skreeoonk?) in the first series.


I'm sorry, but no. Ishinomori's stuff was never that dark, and Toei did not give him THAT many limitations. Ishinomori clearly had fun making stuff for kids and young adults, but Shin was so obviously his answer to Guyver it's not funny.

Crocodile wrote:You can also check out, The First, and The Next. They're pretty good retellings of Ichigo, Nigo, and V3


The First is just forgettable and anti-climactic, but The Next is hands-down one of the worst movies I've ever seen. Over half of the film is spent on a story that feels ripped right out of a bad J-horror film that has absolutely nothing to do with Shocker. It's pointless, distracting, and poorly directed. I HATE The Next with a burning passion.

As for Kamen Rider Den-O, I'd watch the series and the first movie since both of those are extremely fun. Everything from Climax Detectives on is kind of skippable, although I'd check out Chou Den-O Trilogy Episode Blue for it's great characterization of Kamen Rider NEW Den-O and Teddy, and Let's Go, Kamen Rider! for the sheer amounts of Kamen Rider fanservice (that unfortunately has a piss-poor conclusion).
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Re: The Kamen Rider thread

Postby Crocodile » Sun Dec 11, 2011 12:44 am

Let's Go, Kamen Rider! for the sheer amounts of Kamen Rider fanservice (that unfortunately has a piss-poor conclusion).



Oh the Conclusion wasn't THAT bad, and the main movie itself was pretty fun. The actual Climax of everyone showing up one by one was really awesome, I nerdgasm'd. However as usual the final fight was a simple case of let's just all kick him at the same time.

I didn't like Let's Go, Kamen Rider! as much as I liked 199 Hero Great Battle, but it was a fun little movie.

As for Den-O, I cannot stomach Den-O. The Imagin on the Den Liner just spoil the show for me.
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Re: The Kamen Rider thread

Postby shinmattiathekaiju » Sun Dec 11, 2011 3:16 am

I hated The Next because they screwed up V3's story.
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Re: The Kamen Rider thread

Postby DaikaijuSokogeki! » Sun Dec 11, 2011 12:02 pm

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Let's Go, Kamen Rider! for the sheer amounts of Kamen Rider fanservice (that unfortunately has a piss-poor conclusion).



Oh the Conclusion wasn't THAT bad, and the main movie itself was pretty fun. The actual Climax of everyone showing up one by one was really awesome, I nerdgasm'd. However as usual the final fight was a simple case of let's just all kick him at the same time.

I didn't like Let's Go, Kamen Rider! as much as I liked 199 Hero Great Battle, but it was a fun little movie.

As for Den-O, I cannot stomach Den-O. The Imagin on the Den Liner just spoil the show for me.


Yes, the conclusion was that bad. I mean, [SPOILERS!] our heroes are left in the corrupted timeline and that kid being the other kid's father was a ridiculous plot twist that made little sense [END SPOILERS!] I really liked the movie up to that point, but the half-assed finale nearly ruined the whole thing for me.

shinmattiathekaiju wrote:I hated The Next because they screwed up V3's story.


To be fair, at least V3's story wasn't nearly as convoluted as Rider #2's backstory in The First.
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Re: The Kamen Rider thread

Postby SaiyanRider54 » Mon Dec 12, 2011 2:06 pm

Kamen rider Fouze & OOO: movie wars MEGAMAX:
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http://orendsrange.blogspot.com/2011/12/movie-wars-megamax-complete-spoilers.html
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Re: The Kamen Rider thread

Postby shinmattiathekaiju » Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:01 pm

I really enjoy Kuuga,is one of the few Heisei Series that doesn't have that In Name Only feel.
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Re: The Kamen Rider thread

Postby Crocodile » Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:06 pm

Showa Rider fans attitude towards the Heisei Riders mirrors, that of Nolan Fans towards Batman Brave and the Bold.

Just pointing that out.

So after Faiz, I think I'll take a break from Riders and watch Garo, but after that. Thinking maybe Ryuki.
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Re: The Kamen Rider thread

Postby shinmattiathekaiju » Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:37 pm

Crocodile wrote:Showa Rider fans attitude towards the Heisei Riders mirrors, that of Nolan Fans towards Batman Brave and the Bold.



But nobody cares for the Ishinomori Riders! Try to find a music video about them.
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Re: The Kamen Rider thread

Postby Crocodile » Wed Dec 14, 2011 12:23 am

shinmattiathekaiju wrote:
Crocodile wrote:Showa Rider fans attitude towards the Heisei Riders mirrors, that of Nolan Fans towards Batman Brave and the Bold.



But nobody cares for the Ishinomori Riders! Try to find a music video about them.


I've seen a few, and most Heisei Rider music videos I've seen use songs FROM the Rider series.

It also doesn't help that it's MUCH easier to find video to use for the Heisei Riders.

Also using fan MV's is a REALLY stupid way to judge interest. I've seen plenty of love for the Showa Riders around, admittedly not as much as the Heisei Riders get. That's to be expected though, the Heisei Riders are newer, and therefore easier to find subbed in their entirity. Still plenty of people care about the Ishinomori Riders.
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Re: The Kamen Rider thread

Postby HikizuruBeat » Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:27 am

I don't understand the dislike of heisei riders.

Honestly I love both the showa and heisei riders they're neat in their own way and I enjoy both showa and heisei shows.

Watching Kamen Rider Amazon now and it's pretty awesome. It's pretty cool how he tears kaijin limb from limb.
Also really loving the suit design it's very unique compared to the other riders and I think it's the only one modeled after a reptile?
Not including Kamen Rider OOO's Cobra medal form.
I have to pause Amazon till after Thursday though because of finals then Winter Break is a nice Kamen Rider Marathon for me.
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Re: The Kamen Rider thread

Postby shinmattiathekaiju » Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:31 am

My favourite Kamen Rider villain is Hell Ambassador,his suit and make up are so hilarious.
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Re: The Kamen Rider thread

Postby SaiyanRider54 » Sat Dec 17, 2011 9:05 pm

I watched "Kamen Rider Double Returns: Kamen Rider Eternal" the other day.
My mind = Blown

Eternal is a true Kamen Rider.
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Re: The Kamen Rider thread

Postby shinmattiathekaiju » Sat Dec 17, 2011 9:16 pm

HikizuruBeat wrote:I don't understand the dislike of heisei riders.

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Because they are so different and don't follow Ishinomori's vision.
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Re: The Kamen Rider thread

Postby HikizuruBeat » Sat Dec 17, 2011 9:43 pm

Doesn't mean they're bad.

I like both showa and heisei, but some people need to put down the nostalgia goggles.
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Re: The Kamen Rider thread

Postby SuperSaiyan4Godzilla » Sat Dec 17, 2011 9:46 pm

shinmattiathekaiju wrote:
HikizuruBeat wrote:I don't understand the dislike of heisei riders.

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Because they are so different and don't follow Ishinomori's vision.


Then, by Zilla, most of everything in pop culture would be hated.

fun fact, Star Wars is the only thing that follows the creator's vision...and people hate it. I think it a little ironic.
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Re: The Kamen Rider thread

Postby Crocodile » Sun Dec 18, 2011 12:26 am

SaiyanRider54 wrote:I watched "Kamen Rider Double Returns: Kamen Rider Eternal" the other day.
My mind = Blown

Eternal is a true Kamen Rider.


Dude, Eternal is an interesting character. W Returns really expanded upon him well. He lost it though, his heroism stemmed from him trying to keep his humanity alive. However he lost it, when he failed to save Mina.

Because they are so different and don't follow Ishinomori's vision.


They're still heroes, and trying to be like the Showa Riders would make them bland an uninteresting. They'd be imperfect copies, which is never what they have tried to be. Besides the basic elements are always the same.
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Re: The Kamen Rider thread

Postby HikizuruBeat » Sun Dec 18, 2011 1:10 pm

I start too many kamen rider series.

I'm watching OOO and W at the same time and Amazon on the side.
I'm a Kamen Rider slut. /sobbu
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