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Re: If sequels happen, should Destroy All Monsters be remade

Postby Goji » Thu Nov 24, 2011 5:24 pm

Hell no.

I don't want any of the classic Toho films "remade".

Show Gyaos wrote: Maybe. Just keep it far away from the quality of the original. Far, FAR away.


*sigh* And your tired, and completely unwarranted hate on DAM rears it's ugly head..again. It may not be the "best" Godzilla film, but it's certainly better than most of them, and infinitely better than ANYTHING made after 1989. No question.

Do us all a favor, and give this kind of stuff a rest in the future. You're basically flame baiting people every time you do this, I hope you realize.
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Re: If sequels happen, should Destroy All Monsters be remade

Postby Biollante » Thu Nov 24, 2011 6:58 pm

Goji wrote:and infinitely better than ANYTHING made after 1989. No question.


Since I can't ask a question, I'll just say no.
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Re: If sequels happen, should Destroy All Monsters be remade

Postby Goji » Thu Nov 24, 2011 7:08 pm

We can argue this all day. What's better than DAM, that was made from '91-'04. The answer is nothing.

Now if you can come up with a decent argument as to why I'm so "wrong", then please, I'm all ears.
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Re: If sequels happen, should Destroy All Monsters be remade

Postby Biollante » Thu Nov 24, 2011 7:33 pm

Goji wrote:We can argue this all day. What's better than DAM, that was made from '91-'04.

Godzilla vs. Power Rangers 1993, GMK, Tokyo SOS.

I find said movies have a more engaging plot and less, I don't know what's the right word for this...Padding? Monster scenes go on for far too long. The final monster fight was really cool though.

DAM also has this Invasion of Astro Monster feeling, it's an hour and thirty minutes yet it drags on so much it feels like you're watching a three hour film. That's probably just me though. Chances are my perspective will change once I get the DAM blu-ray.
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Re: If sequels happen, should Destroy All Monsters be remade

Postby Goji » Thu Nov 24, 2011 7:41 pm

No, that's not just you. The middle of the film does drags a bit, I'm not going to argue that.

As far as acting, music, consistency of SPX (Though TOKYO S.O.S is pretty consistent, and has some great looking stuff in it), and overall epic-ness, I feel DAM comes out over the films you listed, but again, that's just me. It's all relative. Ifukube's score for VS. MECHAGODZILLA is definitely one of the most "epic" sounding film scores in the whole series, and is my favorite thing about the film.

I do prefer MONSTER ZERO, when it comes to the "alien invasion" Godzilla films, but that was one of my first G films, so I'm probably a little biased. Plus it's got Kumi and Nick Adams, who have some of my favorite screen presence (Does that even make sense? Sorry, I'm out of it, so you'll have to excuse me) out of any Godzilla film. But that's getting pretty off topic.
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Re: If sequels happen, should Destroy All Monsters be remade

Postby Biollante » Thu Nov 24, 2011 7:51 pm

Goji wrote:and overall epic-ness

I don't know, aside from the monster beat down finale I don't think anything in DAM can top GMK's "atom bomb" and the Sayonara in Tokyo SOS. I suppose you mean epic-ness as in the situation itself?
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Re: If sequels happen, should Destroy All Monsters be remade

Postby MothraPeanuts » Thu Nov 24, 2011 7:58 pm

IMHO GMK is not better than DAM, and neither is Tokyo SOS, although the latter is my second favorite Millennium film (after G2K). To be honest, I personally don't think any post-1975 film is better than DAM. My favorite of that set is Godzilla vs. King Ghidora, whch I like a hell of a lot more than G '85, Biollante, or GMK, but DAM still has it beat.
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Re: If sequels happen, should Destroy All Monsters be remade

Postby Cimmerian Dragon » Thu Nov 24, 2011 8:01 pm

Biollante wrote:
Goji wrote:and overall epic-ness

I don't know, aside from the monster beat down finale I don't think anything in DAM can top GMK's "atom bomb" and the Sayonara in Tokyo SOS. I suppose you mean epic-ness as in the situation itself?


For me, the moment when Godzilla ("He knows his enemy by natural instinct!") charges the Kilaak base and shoves his foot through the wall, is the very definition of "epic".
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Re: If sequels happen, should Destroy All Monsters be remade

Postby Legion1979 » Thu Nov 24, 2011 8:26 pm

Personally I thought the Sayanora message at the end of SOS was lame as hell. The mushroom cloud in GMK is cool, but I don't see anything epic about it.

Tokyo SOS is a lot of fun, and is my favorite Millennium film, but it's nothing special, just one big battle that basically borrows elements from lots of other films. When you put DAM in it's proper historical context, you're not getting better than what that movie tries to do.
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Re: If sequels happen, should Destroy All Monsters be remade

Postby Ethan » Fri Nov 25, 2011 7:44 am

I don't believe there's anything from the 1984-2004 period that can better the bulk of the Showa era. Oh well, The Return of Godzilla and GMK are better than Space Amoeba and perhaps the '70s films. But that's more of a budgetary result than anything else.
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Re: If sequels happen, should Destroy All Monsters be remade

Postby Killswitch » Fri Nov 25, 2011 8:43 am

I prefer 60's Showa, and the only newer film that gives me a little of that Showa spirit is GMK. I feel the newer films lacked style, and overall are forgettable.
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Re: If sequels happen, should Destroy All Monsters be remade

Postby Showa Gyaos » Mon Nov 28, 2011 7:44 pm

Legion1979 wrote:
Showa Gyaos wrote:Maybe. Just keep it far away from the quality of the original. Far, FAR away.


So you want it to be terrible?

The exact opposite.
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Re: If sequels happen, should Destroy All Monsters be remade

Postby XxComablack1937xX » Mon Nov 28, 2011 8:08 pm

After ''Final Wars'' No it doesn't need to be remade... don't care if it's from Legendary Pictures or Toho.. the entire 2000 series from Toho was a major let down all together.

Seriously, Final War's should have been a Godzilla vs Gigan Remake.

Gigan has a new updated look, along with Monster-X working with him, Godzilla, an angurlis or whatever come in an the battle starts, once Godzilla takes out Gigan Monster-X turns into King Ghidorah then Rodan joins in the battle an it turns out into a giant monster bash.

You'd basically have the same-thing, except longer monster battles, less matrix fighting.. To me that would have been awesome.
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Re: If sequels happen, should Destroy All Monsters be remade

Postby shinmattiathekaiju » Tue Nov 29, 2011 7:49 am

Showa Gyaos wrote:
Legion1979 wrote:
Showa Gyaos wrote:Maybe. Just keep it far away from the quality of the original. Far, FAR away.


So you want it to be terrible?

The exact opposite.


Why? Because the original is ''boring''?
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Re: If sequels happen, should Destroy All Monsters be remade

Postby Cimmerian Dragon » Tue Nov 29, 2011 9:57 am

What's odd is that the original DAM is one of the few Godzilla flicks that actually gets me pumped-up most of the time. It just seems to build in a really nice way, and the pacing between the human action, the monster fights, and back again hits the perfect formula for keeping me interested.

I'm sure a lot of it is personal taste, of course.
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Re: If sequels happen, should Destroy All Monsters be remade

Postby Rody » Tue Nov 29, 2011 7:16 pm

The idea of a film chock-fulll of monsters is very alluring, but DAM , FW & the Ultra Galaxy film showed us the problem with that formula. You simply can't give all the monsters the screen time they deserve. If you did, the film would end up being 4 - 5 hours long.
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Re: If sequels happen, should Destroy All Monsters be remade

Postby DaddlerTheDalek » Sat Dec 03, 2011 7:38 pm

XxComablack1937xX wrote:Seriously, Final War's should have been a Godzilla vs Gigan Remake.

Gigan has a new updated look, along with Monster-X working with him, Godzilla, an angurlis or whatever come in an the battle starts, once Godzilla takes out Gigan Monster-X turns into King Ghidorah then Rodan joins in the battle an it turns out into a giant monster bash.

You'd basically have the same-thing, except longer monster battles, less matrix fighting.. To me that would have been awesome.


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Re: If sequels happen, should Destroy All Monsters be remade

Postby Gorosaurus Rex » Sun Dec 04, 2011 7:25 am

I'm fine with a DAM remake, but give it time and do it right. I would prefer that there be a plot device used besides aliens though.
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Re: If sequels happen, should Destroy All Monsters be remade

Postby Living Corpse » Sun Dec 04, 2011 1:43 pm

Gorosaurus Rex wrote:I'm fine with a DAM remake, but give it time and do it right. I would prefer that there be a plot device used besides aliens though.


I remember before it was taken down Maser City had come up with an idea about kaiju mating season. The problem? Most if not all the monsters are one of a kind being the first/last of their kind or being aliens that are far away from their homes so now they are gonna vent by destroying cities and killing each other.

It was a joke but honestly it could work since some animal attacks in real life happen because some animals become more territorial during mating season.
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Re: If sequels happen, should Destroy All Monsters be remade

Postby GreenScar » Sun Dec 04, 2011 6:52 pm

Living Corpse wrote:I remember before it was taken down Maser City had come up with an idea about kaiju mating season. The problem? Most if not all the monsters are one of a kind being the first/last of their kind or being aliens that are far away from their homes so now they are gonna vent by destroying cities and killing each other.

It was a joke but honestly it could work since some animal attacks in real life happen because some animals become more territorial during mating season.


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