Rejected Godzilla Concept Art

[Living Corpse]

True but let's say this did become a trilogy. They missed out on the chance to make a "super powered form" for the final film because they already used the design from the get go and that makes it the norm for this incarnation.

In short, I see where both sides are coming from.

They did, although again I point to there being many ways for a super Godzilla to be born aesthetically. More fission, glowing spines, upgraded ray (spirals, coloration differences, etc), coloration, spike changes (size, shape, etc), additional horns/spikes, and on and on. There's a billion things and some of them could be used.

JMO, as I too see both sides.

True, I guess if there is more and they want the final film to have a super form they can make the design more extreme then it already is. It won't be easy since you can only take Godzilla's design so far in the extreme area before it stops being Godzilla and instead becomes some kind of powerful clone he'd fight, but it CAN be done. Just not easily if they decide to use this fissure form there talking about as the normal form.

[Tohosaurus]

True, I guess if there is more and they want the final film to have a super form they can make the design more extreme then it already is. It won't be easy since you can only take Godzilla's design so far in the extreme area before it stops being Godzilla and instead becomes some kind of powerful clone he'd fight, but it CAN be done. Just not easily if they decide to use this fissure form there talking about as the normal form.

Off the top of my head, perhaps a Burning Godzilla would have some blotches of fission, especially around his "heart". All of that looking more like Burning Godzilla rather than the fissure streaks in that one artist's work. Then, glowing spines, a spiral (red?) ray, and some more details and you have it. It still isn't as extreme as the original way that you support, but the way I see it nothing will again have that shock-and-awe factor as the first time any of us say Burning Godzilla ripping Hong Kong to pieces in the opening of Godzilla vs Destoroyah.

[Living Corpse]

Yeah Burning Godzilla was really a shocker when I first saw him. I originally just thought that was the boxart until I saw the film itself. And it would be hard to pull that off again.

Maybe if they want they can have these fissures and other traits gradually get more intense through each film like a sort of slow mutation. I mean Burning Godzilla probably didn't even have those big blotches right away, it's possible it started off more settle like fissures before being these big "rashes" you can spot a mile away.

Kinda like how Gamera and Gyaos were slowly changing through the Heisei films.

[Tohosaurus]

Yeah Burning Godzilla was really a shocker when I first saw him. I originally just thought that was the boxart until I saw the film itself. And it would be hard to pull that off again.

Maybe if they want they can have these fissures and other traits gradually get more intense through each film like a sort of slow mutation. I mean Burning Godzilla probably didn't even have those big blotches right away, it's possible it started off more settle like fissures before being these big "rashes" you can spot a mile away.

Kinda like how Gamera and Gyaos were slowly changing through the Heisei films.

Good ideas.

I think there is a certain difference in your interesting proposal as opposed to what Toho did in 1995. Godzilla absorbed the Baas Island explosion/whateveritwas and as I understand it that's what pushed Godzilla's insides over the edge. In that sense, it probably was a fairly immediate change that we would've seen. Your idea is gradual and is in some ways a darker, more sophisticated path to Burning Godzilla. You could do something like what we discovered in Iron Man 2, where the "thing" that's keeping Stark alive is also killing him. For Godzilla, the changes you suggested would take place over the course of movie one, two, and three, and it wouldn't be until the third that this secret is revealed. Atomic power is the energy source Godzilla uses to survive but it's also killing him.

[gatorzilla]

Didn't Bob Eggleton describe the concept art he saw being VERY VERY similar to the descriptions of that birdified Godzilla/SpaceGodzilla attacking the Statue of Liberty paintings?

I swear that artist is a legendary pictures artist. He even has a picture similar to the idea of pacific rim on his DA account labeled as "Concept Art"

When did Bob Eggleton say he saw concept art from the LP film?

Here...

This comes from artist and friend Bob Eggleton, during a conversation the two of us and several friends were having on FB last night...

"I saw one piece of concept art and they seemed to be going the direction of a Burning Godzilla...the spikes were all hot and on fire...All the concept art seems to show this thing that looks like Space Godzilla meets Burning Godzilla, a mountain of toxic waste and garbage with spikey things on it's arms, and burning back spikes."

He knows people in the industry and isn't the type to get thing wrong and certainly not the type to make things up. Concept art it may be, but it still gives us an indication of where LP may be going with the design.

He goes on to say...

"Everything I have seen indicates this as far as even "rejected" ideas on the web. All the ideas play up that he's glowing or fissioning in some way."

Very interesting. I wonder they have a final design then or close to it? Very cool that Bob has connections in that department

Seems to me like we're looking at the design being either

A) the Comic-Con Godzilla
B) The Godzilla bird-like art with the spikey arms and tail and glowing body on the other page
C) The Hector A Arce sculpture that was going around the web recently

[Living Corpse]

Good ideas.

I think there is a certain difference in your interesting proposal as opposed to what Toho did in 1995. Godzilla absorbed the Baas Island explosion/whateveritwas and as I understand it that's what pushed Godzilla's insides over the edge. In that sense, it probably was a fairly immediate change that we would've seen. Your idea is gradual and is in some ways a darker, more sophisticated path to Burning Godzilla. You could do something like what we discovered in Iron Man 2, where the "thing" that's keeping Stark alive is also killing him. For Godzilla, the changes you suggested would take place over the course of movie one, two, and three, and it wouldn't be until the third that this secret is revealed. Atomic power is the energy source Godzilla uses to survive but it's also killing him.

Yeah pretty much. I liked how in the Heisei series Gamera and Gyaos were slowly changing but you could still notice it, with each film Gamera became lees of an overgrown animal and more of this horrific looking thing. I think it'd be cool to see that in a Godzilla series, though I guess the Showa films kinda of count since he looks different in almost every film from 1954 to 1975.

[Petezilla]

If done correctly by the right people with the right budget, the above description of a Godzilla pictured fissioning - and even burning - by the radioactive fire inside him, could indeed work out very well. Together with showing him being in a constant heavy pain because of that nuclear inside which ultimately is the reason that makes him so liverish and mad on everything in his path. Combined with and placed in a dark surrounding like people and things near him being vaporized by the heat he radiates and even the ones far away still getting killed slowly by the radiation that he leaves... that could possibly result in the most epic and horrific scenery ever seen on screen. If everything works out well for this project. Just saying that. And now watching this scenery with my imaginative eyes... EPIC!!!

[ゴジラ]

If done correctly by the right people with the right budget, the above description of a Godzilla pictured fissioning - and even burning - by the radioactive fire inside him, could indeed work out very well. Together with showing him being in a constant heavy pain because of that nuclear inside which ultimately is the reason that makes him so liverish and mad on everything in his path. Combined with and placed in a dark surrounding like people and things near him being vaporized by the heat he radiates and even the ones far away still getting killed slowly by the radiation that he leaves... that could possibly result in the most epic and horrific scenery ever seen on screen. If everything works out well for this project. Just saying that. And now watching this scenery with my imaginative eyes... EPIC!!!

The bold is a problem for me, it takes away the "God" and makes Godzilla seem like GINO, a creature who's attacking not because he's a force of nature, or because he's defending his territory or anything else. Just attacking because he's in pain like a normal animal, and that you feel more sorry for instead of thinking man "this thing is unbelievable!" Or "dude this thing is completely insane!" It would be more like "Wha? He's attacking because he's in pain? I thought I came to see Godzilla, not a monster having a fit because he's having a nuclear-ache, or nuclear heart burn." Godzilla in Godzilla vs. Destoroyah was pretty much being himself like it was a normal day. Some could say that he was in pain which is why he attack in the beginning of the film, but I always thought he was just letting off nuclear power and cool down. Besides that, Godzilla was trying to follow Junior and just feed off of more nuclear energy.

Don't get me wrong, in some cases, there has to be some kind of logic or reason for a monster to attack something. Godzilla attacking mainly because he's in pain is a good reason, it just doesn't seem like a good reason to start with when dealing with a brand new Godzilla film in the U.S.

BUUUUT!

I have to agree with you...Seeing Godzilla simply walk pass people and those people dissolve/vaporize or burst into ashes because of the extreme nuclear radiation and heat he gives off would be awesome to see on screen.

[shinmattiathekaiju]

If done correctly by the right people with the right budget, the above description of a Godzilla pictured fissioning - and even burning - by the radioactive fire inside him, could indeed work out very well. Together with showing him being in a constant heavy pain because of that nuclear inside which ultimately is the reason that makes him so liverish and mad on everything in his path. Combined with and placed in a dark surrounding like people and things near him being vaporized by the heat he radiates and even the ones far away still getting killed slowly by the radiation that he leaves... that could possibly result in the most epic and horrific scenery ever seen on screen. If everything works out well for this project. Just saying that. And now watching this scenery with my imaginative eyes... EPIC!!!

The bold is a problem for me, it takes away the "God" and makes Godzilla seem like GINO, a creature who's attacking not because he's a force of nature, or because he's defending his territory or anything else. Just attacking because he's in pain like a normal animal, and that you feel more sorry for instead of thinking man "this thing is unbelievable!" Or "dude this thing is completely insane!" It would be more like "Wha? He's attacking because he's in pain? I thought I came to see Godzilla, not a monster having a fit because he's having a nuclear-ache, or nuclear heart burn." Godzilla in Godzilla vs. Destoroyah was pretty much being himself like it was a normal day. Some could say that he was in pain which is why he attack in the beginning of the film, but I always thought he was just letting off nuclear power and cool down. Besides that, Godzilla was trying to follow Junior and just feed off of more nuclear energy.

Don't get me wrong, in some cases, there has to be some kind of logic or reason for a monster to attack something. Godzilla attacking mainly because he's in pain is a good reason, it just doesn't seem like a good reason to start with when dealing with a brand new Godzilla film in the U.S.

BUUUUT!

I have to agree with you...Seeing Godzilla simply walk pass people and those people dissolve/vaporize or burst into ashes because of the extreme nuclear radiation and heat he gives off would be awesome to see on screen.

EXTREEEEEME isn't it?

[Tyler]

I really hope they're not doing the feathery meltdown thing. We need something new yet obviously Godzilla, which GINO wasn't. A lizard with spikes doesn't count. You need all the little things that make the original iconic with small modern tweaks.

Like this! Just switch those two center fins around. Having the largest one on top is a bit weird.

[ZillaEra]

Seems to me like we're looking at the design being either

A) the Comic-Con Godzilla
B) The Godzilla bird-like art with the spikey arms and tail and glowing body on the other page
C) The Hector A Arce sculpture that was going around the web recently

Out of the three I think I still prefer the Comic-Con shirt design. Something about it just felt so right to me... and I loved the gold eyes.

[Gyaos]

Seems to me like we're looking at the design being either

A) the Comic-Con Godzilla
B) The Godzilla bird-like art with the spikey arms and tail and glowing body on the other page
C) The Hector A Arce sculpture that was going around the web recently

Im all for the bird-like Godzilla. Just tone down the arm feathers a bit and it's perfect IMO.

[shinmattiathekaiju]

A) the Comic-Con Godzilla
B) The Godzilla bird-like art with the spikey arms and tail and glowing body on the other page
C) The Hector A Arce sculpture that was going around the web recently[/quote]


COMICONZILLA!

[Living Corpse]

I personally feel it would be better to start with a design like the one from the Comic-Con shirt and use the burning fissure thing for the last film (again assuming there is gonna be more films) as a super power up form. But that's just me. The whole fissure thing reminds me of the Critical Mass thing from G:U.

[Cimmerian Dragon]

I like aspects of them all...except the feathers on the bird and the Doomsday-like bone protrusions on the sculpture would have to go. That's kind of needless departure that goes beyond "update" and becomes "no-longer-Godzilla", IMO.

The Comiconzilla (ha) is the only one that really nails it for me. They could slap that bastard into production right now, and I'd be happy.

[zilla103192]

Am I the only one not impressed by that shirt design?

I mean, It looks like KiryuGoji with a fatter neck...

[Tyler]

I like the simplicity of this. It's Godzilla, albeit a bit Millennium based. It's all you need after GINO. You don't have to give him quills or make him about to self destruct.

[XxComablack1937xX]

Am I the only one not impressed by that shirt design?

I mean, It looks like KiryuGoji with a fatter neck...

Why wouldn't you be impressed? It's Godzilla isn't it? Not that it's the design there using but if to say it was i would be happy. What else would you like them to do?
If they change it to much, fans hate it.. If it's to plan fan's aren't impressed?

[zilla103192]

I don't want them going ALL out on designing Godzilla, but I want them to take SOME liberties.

For Godzilla vs Destroroyah, they gave him the burning effects.

For G98, they... well, do I need to explain what they did?

for Godzilla 2000, they changed his color and gave him them UBER SPIKEY plates.

They took liberties from the original design. But still able to clasify it as Godzilla.

I want the Legendary Godzilla to be Godzilla, but not Godzilla. y'know?

I want him to be his own Godzilla, not just the basic idea of what the character is...

[Darkness]

It seems to be a lot harder for Americans to take faithful liberties with Godzilla. Most Godzilla redesigns I've seen done by American artists just take it way too far.