Godzilla gets a new writer again (Max Borenstein)

[shinmattiathekaiju]

BORING-STEIN? i was kinda okay with goyer but okay.

Is like Frankenstein,only boring.

[Jacob Kaiju X]

I think it probably amounts to Goyer doing the basic story/outline and this Borenstein doing the script/screenplay. It happens...

[XxComablack1937xX]

The problem is every little piece of info that LP has released just leaves everyone more uncertain rather than excited. First we get the long over due announcement that Gareth Edwars would be directing the film back in January. Then we get the news of 3 different writers like 4 months apart from each other. Fact is we have nothing solid to go on other than that dated Brian Rodgers interview which most likely is no longer valid to what the planning board is looking like now. A lot of us including myself has lost interest in the hype that LP sparked back @ comic con 2010. I don't know about the rest of you but I was already geared for a Godzilla comeback in 2012. Now we have no release date, not a peep of info outside who is directing and who is writing. So yeah I'm let down by that fact. If LP had their shyt together and wanted to do something successful with the franchise I don't see why the development is going through so much turmoil?

To be fair, I can except the long delay in finding Gareth Edwards because he isn't a familiar or popular choice an finding a director unlike Micheal Bay who focuses mostly on action an not story or Roland Emmerich who would probably want to portray Godzilla there way instead of the studio or Toho's way.

As for the hype, Godzilla's hype would have been drowned out anyways. I know fan's will dislike this statement but if Legendary was to release Godzilla in 2012 as Originally planned it would be down with (Ghost-Rider: Spirit of Vengence). Sure it's fan-base will see it an maybe a few other's out of curiousity but otherwise the major sequels to huge franchises already established will be the major money-makers an Godzilla does not apply to any of those.

Also don't forget hype of the first American-G-film started in 94, but had several delays an changes of directors an screen writer's even though hype died down for a little once the trailer's start emerging the hype will picked right back up. The same will happen with this film, I'm sure Legendary knows this just as well so there not concerned.

I'd say Legendary does have there shit together personally, they know what they (an Toho) want from this Godzilla film an aren't excepting anything less which i believe to be a good thing. I wouldn't mind if they went threw 2 more writer's as long as the final product lives up to be great. Also they do want to do something successful with this franchise which is why they are being so cautious in not pulling another Tri-Star, Godzilla is a film that can easily an i mean very easily take a turn for the worse, appreciate the fact that this studio is trying an taking all available steps to avoid making that mistake.

[Primevalgodzilla V2]

I can't say that Toho having so much control behind this is fully a good thing. Any decent director will know how to respect the source material, and if the director isn;t decent the film will suck regardless of how much Toho controls it. If anything Toho breathing down the director's back will hurt the film, like with GMK. Set some regulations, but give the dirctor freedom to play with the mythos.

[zilla103192]

Movies getting multiple re-writes is a bad thing since most people think that is a sign that the movie sucks and they can't choose on how to make it better then the film itself ends up being worst. I remember that The Flintstones (1994) and The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen (2003) went through multiple re-writes and both movies end up being total crap.

in your opinion. I love both those films.

Well, you have named yourself after Zilla...

Your point?

Again, the quality of that film is all a matter of opinion, I liked it. You don't have too.

I was jsut pointing out to HS when he said those 2 movies are terrible, that that is only his opinion.

[Living Corpse]

I can't say that Toho having so much control behind this is fully a good thing. Any decent director will know how to respect the source material, and if the director isn;t decent the film will suck regardless of how much Toho controls it. If anything Toho breathing down the director's back will hurt the film, like with GMK. Set some regulations, but give the dirctor freedom to play with the mythos.

I get what you are saying but can you blame them after what happened with Tri-Star? Last time Toho gave rules and they were completely ignored. This time Toho is enforcing them and using Banno as a watch dog to give them constant updates so they can change anything they disagree with before it's too late. It does slow down production, it does cause a lot of stress but if it means preventing someone from pulling a similar stunt that D&E pulled and giving us a Godzilla film that actually looks, feels and acts like Godzilla then I say the wait and stress will be worth it in the end. Eventually.

[zilla103192]

anyone else find it really weird that Toho flat out told Banno he would never work on a Godzilla movie ever again, yet they trusted him as the watchdog over the biggest coin flip they do?

[Living Corpse]

anyone else find it really weird that Toho flat out told Banno he would never work on a Godzilla movie ever again, yet they trusted him as the watchdog over the biggest coin flip they do?

Why? He doesn't get any say in what happens, just report all changes in the plan. They only threat he could pose is if he decides to not report shit which come on, you know he will continue to just report stuff since this is the closest he get's to work with a G project.

[Hellspawn28]

I was jsut pointing out to HS when he said those 2 movies are terrible, that that is only his opinion.

Those movies where not very good in a critical point of view. I didn't mind The Flintstones but the movie went through so many drafts until the movie was finally release in 1994. The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen was in development hell since the early 90's and the film was critically panned with a 17% on Rotten Tomatoes, the whole movie was a total train wreck. Alan Moore hated it, both Stephen Norrington and Sean Connery stop working in the film industry after this film.

[TokyoVigilante]

anyone else find it really weird that Toho flat out told Banno he would never work on a Godzilla movie ever again, yet they trusted him as the watchdog over the biggest coin flip they do?

That was a long time ago and it was the decision of Tomoyuki Tanaka. Toho isn't one to uphold the unofficially sanctioned grudge of a deceased producer, especially when there's money to be made.

[Chris55]

anyone else find it really weird that Toho flat out told Banno he would never work on a Godzilla movie ever again, yet they trusted him as the watchdog over the biggest coin flip they do?

That was 40 years ago. Times have changed. different executives etc.

[Living Corpse]

anyone else find it really weird that Toho flat out told Banno he would never work on a Godzilla movie ever again, yet they trusted him as the watchdog over the biggest coin flip they do?

That was 40 years ago. Times have changed. different executives etc.

Did Banno ever get a formal apology about that or is it something he just let forget and forgive?

[Blackout286]

anyone else find it really weird that Toho flat out told Banno he would never work on a Godzilla movie ever again, yet they trusted him as the watchdog over the biggest coin flip they do?

That was 40 years ago. Times have changed. different executives etc.

Did Banno ever get a formal apology about that or is it something he just let forget and forgive?

He probably let it all go but did not forgive IMO.

[Hellspawn28]

Tomoyuki Tanaka was the one that hated Godzilla vs. Hedorah (1971). Godzilla vs. Hedorah got good reviews when it came out and it's not that bad of a film. Banno is the only Showa director that is still alive and I trust him as a watch dog.

[miguelnuva]

Tomoyuki Tanaka was the one that hated Godzilla vs. Hedorah (1971). Godzilla vs. Hedorah got good reviews when it came out and it's not that bad of a film. Banno is the only Showa director that is still alive and I trust him as a watch dog.

If Tanaka hates Hedorah which goji flims does he like.

[Living Corpse]

Did Banno ever get a formal apology about that or is it something he just let forget and forgive?

He probably let it all go but did not forgive IMO.

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What a shame.

[Primevalgodzilla V2]

I get what you are saying but can you blame them after what happened with Tri-Star? Last time Toho gave rules and they were completely ignored. This time Toho is enforcing them and using Banno as a watch dog to give them constant updates so they can change anything they disagree with before it's too late. It does slow down production, it does cause a lot of stress but if it means preventing someone from pulling a similar stunt that D&E pulled and giving us a Godzilla film that actually looks, feels and acts like Godzilla then I say the wait and stress will be worth it in the end. Eventually.

If the directore did intend to respect Toho's mythos from the start- as anyone in the right mind would, especially after the Emmerich fiasco- but Toho' breathing down on their necks damaged the quality of the film ala GMK, or worse still, gabe us something completely uninspired, it will be anything but worth it.

[XxComablack1937xX]

People are speculating a bit much in this ''Toho breathing down Legendary's necks'' we don't even know why another writer was hired.. I could have nothing to do with Toho an more to do with Thomas Tull not being satisfied with the script yet. He has said Godzilla is one of his personal passions so why would he expect anything less?

Then again this might not have anything to do with him, Maybe they scrapped Callaham's script entirely (which isn't out of the question he sucks) an had Goyer write the first draft an then this writer to write the second draft. We really don't know.

If anything Toho gave more specific guidelines to follow an Banno is making sure there done right. I'm sure Legendary knew what they were getting into getting the right's to Godzilla, an don't blame Toho for being strict on there guidelines. It's no different then Marvel with there properties, There strict as hell but most of there films turn a profit.

Toho were to giving the last time an they got screwed, it's expected that there gonna tighter on this films production.

[tenup]

Would be nice to get an interview with David Goyer now that he's off the project. Although I'm sure he won't be allowed to reveal much it would be interesting to get some information on the direction of this project from him. Also why was he let go?

[zilla103192]

Nobody knows exactly what happened. He might of not even been let go, he might of done his alterations to the script and moved on.