Monster Discussion #49: MechaGodzilla (Heisei)

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Re: Monster Discussion #49: MechaGodzilla (Heisei)

Postby The One and Only » Thu Nov 03, 2011 9:27 pm

MG-'93, while not the most striking of the various Meha-G's Toho created, is still quite nice. The original, one has to remember, was built as a weapon of mass destruction, and with its sharp angular edges. Creates quite an imposing figure. The UNGCC model, is a product of the nineties. Its more utilitarian design looks like the majority of the vehicles of the time, as opposed to the muscle car the original was. But MG-'93 does get the job done. It gave the Big-G quite a fight in its first meeting, and damn near did the King of the Monsters in the climatic confrontation. Not mention laid out Rodan quite nicely. It also took the Super-X II's numero uno weapon, the Fire Mirror, to the next level with the Plasma Grenade. And used it to deal out some major punishment. Hell, the MG-'93, when in combat, although used the beams a lot, rained HELL on the Big-G. Especially, when hooked up to Garuda to form Super-Mechagodzilla.

One of the bones of contention with the fans about the UN-MechaG is it being prone to mechanical difficulties. I actually liked this, and made the mecha more realistic with it breaking down at crucial moments. Its MegaBuster unable to fire due to overheating during combat. Likewise its lack of physical combat abilities, it was unable to fight off Rodan to prevent the winged menace from pecking one of its eyes to nonfunctioning status. The original in its initial outing suffered from a bit of a breakdown after its first battle with the Big-G. Kiryu, with its mood swings due to it's DNA computers, finite power supply, and getting damaged in combat. Although, as I remember, Godzilla wasn't giving Kiryu much room to fight back in their second encounter.

While some here may be a bit put out that it was a little far fetched that UN-Mechagodzilla was developed through the reverse engineering of tech salvaged from the future tech from Mecha-King Ghidorah. It should be noted that it was mentioned by Colonel Gondo in Godzilla Vs. Biollante that Godzilla Countermeasures Center was doing some extensive research into robotics. So with the introduction of MKG's tech to the research being done in the field, and it probably gave the robotics section quite a boost in their research.
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Re: Monster Discussion #49: MechaGodzilla (Heisei)

Postby zilla103192 » Fri Nov 11, 2011 6:27 am

So out of all the concept art done for Heisei MG, what design do you think you would of prefered over this one?

I like this one alot.

http://tohokingdom.com/concept_art/gvsm ... la_05.html

it's very reminiscent of the Showa MG, but it gives it an updated look.
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Re: Monster Discussion #49: MechaGodzilla (Heisei)

Postby Goji » Fri Nov 11, 2011 8:54 am

I love that one as well. I really wish they had used that design instead.
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Re: Monster Discussion #49: MechaGodzilla (Heisei)

Postby Cimmerian Dragon » Fri Nov 11, 2011 9:08 am

Yeah, that one's even better than the look on the art-poster.
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Re: Monster Discussion #49: MechaGodzilla (Heisei)

Postby Tyler » Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:45 pm

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Re: Monster Discussion #49: MechaGodzilla (Heisei)

Postby Cimmerian Dragon » Sat Nov 19, 2011 8:28 am



Not really feeling that. It reminds me more of MechaNinjaTurtle (and I mean the proportions, not the colour).
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Re: Monster Discussion #49: MechaGodzilla (Heisei)

Postby TokyoVigilante » Sat Nov 19, 2011 8:52 am

If I was going to bring back a Mechagodzilla controlled by invaders, I would diffidently use the one Zilla' posted. But, for a United Nations built super-weapon, I would pick this monstrosity; http://tohokingdom.com/concept_art/gvsm ... la_01.html ditch the red colour scheme for a darker matte chrome. It isn't like heisei monsters physically brawled anyway and it looks built to have "all its eggs in one basket" in a way.
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Re: Monster Discussion #49: MechaGodzilla (Heisei)

Postby King Caesar » Sat Nov 19, 2011 9:19 am

^ I can't imagine it's design realisitically. It's way too bulky. However, I do like it. Just a little thinner or something and it'd be my favorite.
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Re: Monster Discussion #49: MechaGodzilla (Heisei)

Postby NSZ » Sat Nov 19, 2011 9:55 am

TokyoVigilante wrote:If I was going to bring back a Mechagodzilla controlled by invaders, I would diffidently use the one Zilla' posted. But, for a United Nations built super-weapon, I would pick this monstrosity; http://tohokingdom.com/concept_art/gvsm ... la_01.html ditch the red colour scheme for a darker matte chrome. It isn't like heisei monsters physically brawled anyway and it looks built to have "all its eggs in one basket" in a way.


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Re: Monster Discussion #49: MechaGodzilla (Heisei)

Postby Tyler » Sat Nov 19, 2011 10:57 am

Cimmerian Dragon wrote:Not really feeling that. It reminds me more of MechaNinjaTurtle (and I mean the proportions, not the colour).


I like the arms and it's not like concept art always reflects the final design anyway in terms of Toho monster movies.
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Re: Monster Discussion #49: MechaGodzilla (Heisei)

Postby Cimmerian Dragon » Sat Nov 19, 2011 1:14 pm

^True. I'm not saying this design doesn't have some nice details, it just needs a little reworking.
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Re: Monster Discussion #49: MechaGodzilla (Heisei)

Postby Living Corpse » Sat Nov 19, 2011 1:33 pm

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Re: Monster Discussion #49: MechaGodzilla (Heisei)

Postby TitanoGoji16 » Sun Nov 20, 2011 12:52 am

TokyoVigilante wrote:But, for a United Nations built super-weapon, I would pick this monstrosity; http://tohokingdom.com/concept_art/gvsm ... la_01.html


Well, damn. I wonder if that was the inspiration for Matt Frank's Super Mechagodzilla Neo:

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Re: Monster Discussion #49: MechaGodzilla (Heisei)

Postby Living Corpse » Sun Nov 20, 2011 1:30 am

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I am never bitching about how Heisei MG was too "fat" ever again after seeing some of these designs.

zilla103192 wrote:So out of all the concept art done for Heisei MG, what design do you think you would of prefered over this one?

I like this one alot.

http://tohokingdom.com/concept_art/gvsm ... la_05.html

it's very reminiscent of the Showa MG, but it gives it an updated look.


I wished we got that one, it looks like it could have actually punch, grab and kick, you know actually fight up close in melee if a monster decided "I'm not going to be stupid and fight a beam war with this thing after what happened last time, I'm gonna rip it a new one." Make no mistake, it still looks like it'd be slow but at least it looks like it won't stagger and lose it's balance from being bumped into and can upper cut a monster.
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Re: Monster Discussion #49: MechaGodzilla (Heisei)

Postby Darth Calypso » Sun Nov 20, 2011 1:41 am

TitanoGoji16 wrote:
TokyoVigilante wrote:But, for a United Nations built super-weapon, I would pick this monstrosity; http://tohokingdom.com/concept_art/gvsm ... la_01.html


Well, damn. I wonder if that was the inspiration for Matt Frank's Super Mechagodzilla Neo:

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I'm not sure but I think it was based off of the SMG design from Godzilla: Generations. I sorta liked MG's design but, I prefer the one in the art poster.
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Re: Monster Discussion #49: MechaGodzilla (Heisei)

Postby kaijukurt » Sun Nov 20, 2011 5:13 am

I'm ok with his final design in the movie; it was fit for the 90's.
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Re: Monster Discussion #49: MechaGodzilla (Heisei)

Postby zilla103192 » Wed Nov 23, 2011 7:28 am

Darth Calypso wrote:
TitanoGoji16 wrote:
TokyoVigilante wrote:But, for a United Nations built super-weapon, I would pick this monstrosity; http://tohokingdom.com/concept_art/gvsm ... la_01.html


Well, damn. I wonder if that was the inspiration for Matt Frank's Super Mechagodzilla Neo:

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I'm not sure but I think it was based off of the SMG design from Godzilla: Generations.


I really don't think so...

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Re: Monster Discussion #49: MechaGodzilla (Heisei)

Postby Goji » Wed Nov 23, 2011 8:04 am

...the legs on that Neo design are complete and total overkill. What is this, Super Sentai?
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Re: Monster Discussion #49: MechaGodzilla (Heisei)

Postby Living Corpse » Wed Nov 23, 2011 8:08 am

...the legs on that Neo design are complete and total overkill. What is this, Super Sentai?


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Re: Monster Discussion #49: MechaGodzilla (Heisei)

Postby Tyler » Wed Nov 23, 2011 3:01 pm

Goji wrote:...the legs on that Neo design are complete and total overkill.


I think that's the point.
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