Weapons Talkback: MBAW-93

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Weapons Talkback: MBAW-93

Postby Living Corpse » Mon Nov 07, 2011 8:55 pm

MBAW-93

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After several failures by the MBT-92 it was only natural that the G-Force would seek a means of increasing their armies firepower. Thus the MBAW-93 was born and sure enough it provides double the firepower for every men. So close, soon my preciouse ASTOL's, soon I will make your talkback. So close.
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Re: Weapons Talkback: MBAW-93

Postby kaijukurt » Tue Nov 08, 2011 4:56 am

Liked them. Heck, I like all Toho anti-kaiju vehicles!
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Re: Weapons Talkback: MBAW-93

Postby King Caesar » Tue Nov 08, 2011 4:46 pm

Interesting design, but there are cooler SDF vehicles out there. Like the Type 66
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Re: Weapons Talkback: MBAW-93

Postby Living Corpse » Tue Nov 08, 2011 4:48 pm

King Caesar wrote:Interesting design, but there are cooler SDF vehicles out there. Like the Type 66


I'm more found of the ASTOL's myself.
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Re: Weapons Talkback: MBAW-93

Postby Legion1979 » Tue Nov 08, 2011 7:48 pm

Meh.

I like the masers, but these are pretty bland.
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Re: Weapons Talkback: MBAW-93

Postby Tyler » Tue Nov 08, 2011 7:55 pm

Showa weapons somehow had character while Heisei ones are just in the background.
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Re: Weapons Talkback: MBAW-93

Postby Legion1979 » Tue Nov 08, 2011 8:03 pm

Not counting their stock footage reappearance in the '70s, the classic Tsuburaya maser cannons are popular and iconic despite only appearing once. And they actually turned out to be pretty powerful, giving the green gargantua a severe beating.

Kawakita's masers on the other hand...

In Biollante they worked fine. After that they were nothing but cannon fodder (pun intended) until the freezing masers showed up in Destroyah. But in several films in a row (including Space Godzilla, where they appeared in a deleted scene) they show up like little toys just begging to get blasted. It takes the power away from them a good deal.
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Re: Weapons Talkback: MBAW-93

Postby edgaguirus » Tue Nov 08, 2011 10:37 pm

They looked like tanks with lasers attached to me. They weren't interesting to me.
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Re: Weapons Talkback: MBAW-93

Postby Cimmerian Dragon » Tue Nov 08, 2011 10:48 pm

Don't really care for these. I'm not big on the Heisei masers in general (though I liked the lasers from G '84), their designs just felt blah to me. I was thrilled to see the more traditional versions in the Kiryu films.
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Re: Weapons Talkback: MBAW-93

Postby therealmccoy » Thu Nov 10, 2011 8:09 am

It was an interesting redesign for me. I liked the classics better, but these deserve at least a little praise.
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Re: Weapons Talkback: MBAW-93

Postby Inferno Rodan » Thu Nov 10, 2011 1:31 pm

Tyler wrote:Showa weapons somehow had character while Heisei ones are just in the background.

The Heisei weapons don't have "character" because they're supposed to feel more like military hardware than crazy sci-fi superweapons. It fits with the tone of the series and was pulled off extremely well, IMO. Something like the Type 66 would've looked terribly out of place in a Heisei film.

As for the MBAW-93s, I think they're pretty nifty. What I find especially cool about them is that you can tell they're sort of the precursor for the Garuda's weapons.

Legion1979 wrote:Not counting their stock footage reappearance in the '70s, the classic Tsuburaya maser cannons are popular and iconic despite only appearing once. And they actually turned out to be pretty powerful, giving the green gargantua a severe beating.

Kawakita's masers on the other hand...

In Biollante they worked fine. After that they were nothing but cannon fodder (pun intended) until the freezing masers showed up in Destroyah. But in several films in a row (including Space Godzilla, where they appeared in a deleted scene) they show up like little toys just begging to get blasted. It takes the power away from them a good deal.

>implying the Showa Masers were anything but cannon fodder after their initial appearance in WotG
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Re: Weapons Talkback: MBAW-93

Postby Legion1979 » Thu Nov 10, 2011 8:52 pm

Inferno Rodan wrote:>implying the Showa Masers were anything but cannon fodder after their initial appearance in WotG


As I said, I'm disregarding their later appearances because for the most part it's all stock footage anyway.
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Re: Weapons Talkback: MBAW-93

Postby Inferno Rodan » Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:23 am

Legion1979 wrote:As I said, I'm disregarding their later appearances because for the most part it's all stock footage anyway.

That makes no sense, but okay.
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Re: Weapons Talkback: MBAW-93

Postby Legionmaster » Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:24 am

Legion1979 wrote:
Inferno Rodan wrote:>implying the Showa Masers were anything but cannon fodder after their initial appearance in WotG


As I said, I'm disregarding their later appearances because for the most part it's all stock footage anyway.

Which only solidifies their cannon fodder status in those films.
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Re: Weapons Talkback: MBAW-93

Postby Tyler » Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:53 pm

The tokusatsu effects in the '90s Godzilla films don't have the ingenuity behind them in the same way the Showa stuff does. I understand you have to update stuff but as the Heisei series went on it became very lazy and stagnant. Instead of the giant leap it should of been it was only a small step, especially compared to the Gamera series.
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Re: Weapons Talkback: MBAW-93

Postby Inferno Rodan » Fri Nov 11, 2011 1:51 pm

Tyler wrote:The tokusatsu effects in the '90s Godzilla films don't have the ingenuity behind them in the same way the Showa stuff does. I understand you have to update stuff but as the Heisei series went on it became very lazy and stagnant. Instead of the giant leap it should of been it was only a small step, especially compared to the Gamera series.

Umm. Aside from that really having nothing at all to do with the topic, the Heisei Gamera movies were still guys in rubber suits wrestling on miniature sets. It wasn't a "giant leap" at all.
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Re: Weapons Talkback: MBAW-93

Postby Cimmerian Dragon » Sat Nov 12, 2011 6:20 am

Gamera did represent a giant leap compared to the Heisei G-films, though one partially based on the human element. A careful application of new tech, like limited cgi and near-flawless optical composites, were joined with an "early-sixties Toho" level of skill and craftsmanship. It wasn't that they reinvented the wheel, but they did balance it perfectly and put a slick new tire on it.
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Re: Weapons Talkback: MBAW-93

Postby Arbok » Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:30 am

Legion1979 wrote:Meh.

I like the masers, but these are pretty bland.


Have to agree. I generally like all of the Maser tanks, feeling they made quite an impression when they were first introduced way back in The War of the Gargantuas (1966)...

However, find the MBAW-93 to be the least interesting of them. I think it's because the cannons themselves are so small, and don't have the massive quality of any of the other designs. They seem more "practical", but are much less flashy and I would say the least memorable of the tanks.
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Re: Weapons Talkback: MBAW-93

Postby TitanoGoji16 » Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:03 pm

I always thought these things kinda looked like baby Gunheds.
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Re: Weapons Talkback: MBAW-93

Postby Arbok » Wed Feb 13, 2013 4:41 pm

TitanoGoji16 wrote:I always thought these things kinda looked like baby Gunheds.


Wow... so maybe me disliking them was subliminal, because I can see that now... :lol:
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