Godzilla: Unleashed (Wii)

[hammysammy59]

^Make it a completely different game with a fun, compelling combat engine and it would be perfect.

Explain to me what's wrong with the current gameplay engine and how it can be improved.

It's just not fun enough. I know that's vague, but the gameplay just isn't compelling enough to hold interest, even for us Godzilla super-fans.

People STILL play Street Fighter 2. People STILL play Mortal Kombat 2. People STILL play the N64 WWF games. People STILL play any of the 3 installments of Smash Bros. Nobody's still playing Unleashed, or at least, playing it with any kind of enthusiasm (and I'm not saying Godzilla games need to build a competitive meta-culture). DAMM, the best of the series (gameplay-wise) had some decent-ish legs as a party game, but maybe that's because it was a fresh new game, and the most polished entry in the series.

Personally, I think it could be improved by providing a more focused fighting experience. The game engine as-is is sort of a wishy-washy mash-up of combo-based traditional/tourney fighters, Smash Bros./Power Stone style party-figher, and grapple-based wrestling game. Over the years and multiple posts on here I've practically written a dissertation on why I think Godzilla lends itself the best to a grapple-based wrestling game with smaller, more interactive arenas, but I'll just say I think that'd be the best direction for the series to go for a lot of different reasons.

[StonedHope]

It's just not fun enough. I know that's vague, but the gameplay just isn't compelling enough to hold interest, even for us Godzilla super-fans.

People STILL play Street Fighter 2. People STILL play Mortal Kombat 2. People STILL play the N64 WWF games. People STILL play any of the 3 installments of Smash Bros. Nobody's still playing Unleashed, or at least, playing it with any kind of enthusiasm (and I'm not saying Godzilla games need to build a competitive meta-culture). DAMM, the best of the series (gameplay-wise) had some decent-ish legs as a party game, but maybe that's because it was a fresh new game, and the most polished entry in the series.

Personally, I think it could be improved by providing a more focused fighting experience. The game engine as-is is sort of a wishy-washy mash-up of combo-based traditional/tourney fighters, Smash Bros./Power Stone style party-figher, and grapple-based wrestling game. Over the years and multiple posts on here I've practically written a dissertation on why I think Godzilla lends itself the best to a grapple-based wrestling game with smaller, more interactive arenas, but I'll just say I think that'd be the best direction for the series to go for a lot of different reasons.

I was thinking about that myself the other day, "Is DAM better that Unleashed?"
I remember enjoying the gameplay of DAM the most.
But I couldn't distinguish if it was a matter of nostalgia, being the first big Godzilla Game I played or if the fighting was actually superior. If DAM and unleashed were (hypothetically) released the same year at the same time, do you really think you'd prefer DAM still?

I think that unleashed is just too familiar. Its mechanic are polished but its just the third time round and doesn't hold are attention as much as it use to.

[JVM]

^Make it a completely different game with a fun, compelling combat engine and it would be perfect.

Explain to me what's wrong with the current gameplay engine and how it can be improved.

It's just not fun enough. I know that's vague, but the gameplay just isn't compelling enough to hold interest, even for us Godzilla super-fans.

People STILL play Street Fighter 2. People STILL play Mortal Kombat 2. People STILL play the N64 WWF games. People STILL play any of the 3 installments of Smash Bros. Nobody's still playing Unleashed, or at least, playing it with any kind of enthusiasm (and I'm not saying Godzilla games need to build a competitive meta-culture). DAMM, the best of the series (gameplay-wise) had some decent-ish legs as a party game, but maybe that's because it was a fresh new game, and the most polished entry in the series.

Personally, I think it could be improved by providing a more focused fighting experience. The game engine as-is is sort of a wishy-washy mash-up of combo-based traditional/tourney fighters, Smash Bros./Power Stone style party-figher, and grapple-based wrestling game. Over the years and multiple posts on here I've practically written a dissertation on why I think Godzilla lends itself the best to a grapple-based wrestling game with smaller, more interactive arenas, but I'll just say I think that'd be the best direction for the series to go for a lot of different reasons.

I totally understand what you're saying, but I don't think the gameplay engine is completely to blame for the games' unpopularity and feel that if other aspects were cleaned up, the current gameplay could be kept and the games could still be successful.

[CatfaceFourtoes]

It's just not fun enough. I know that's vague, but the gameplay just isn't compelling enough to hold interest, even for us Godzilla super-fans.

People STILL play Street Fighter 2. People STILL play Mortal Kombat 2. People STILL play the N64 WWF games. People STILL play any of the 3 installments of Smash Bros. Nobody's still playing Unleashed, or at least, playing it with any kind of enthusiasm (and I'm not saying Godzilla games need to build a competitive meta-culture). DAMM, the best of the series (gameplay-wise) had some decent-ish legs as a party game, but maybe that's because it was a fresh new game, and the most polished entry in the series.

Personally, I think it could be improved by providing a more focused fighting experience. The game engine as-is is sort of a wishy-washy mash-up of combo-based traditional/tourney fighters, Smash Bros./Power Stone style party-figher, and grapple-based wrestling game. Over the years and multiple posts on here I've practically written a dissertation on why I think Godzilla lends itself the best to a grapple-based wrestling game with smaller, more interactive arenas, but I'll just say I think that'd be the best direction for the series to go for a lot of different reasons.

I was thinking about that myself the other day, "Is DAM better that Unleashed?"
I remember enjoying the gameplay of DAM the most.
But I couldn't distinguish if it was a matter of nostalgia, being the first big Godzilla Game I played or if the fighting was actually superior. If DAM and unleashed were (hypothetically) released the same year at the same time, do you really think you'd prefer DAM still?

I think that unleashed is just too familiar. Its mechanic are polished but its just the third time round and doesn't hold are attention as much as it use to.

Smaller more interactive arenas you say? That kind of sounds like what they did in Def Jam Fight for New York! In that game you could grapple, box, or just plain grab stuff to beat your opponent unconscious, not to mention being able to slam them into destructible objects in the background, like cars. I guess the Godzilla equivalent would be a solitary large building you could keep slamming an opponent into until it comes crashing down on them.

[Gigan X3]

I was thinking about that myself the other day, "Is DAM better that Unleashed?"
I remember enjoying the gameplay of DAM the most.
But I couldn't distinguish if it was a matter of nostalgia, being the first big Godzilla Game I played or if the fighting was actually superior. If DAM and unleashed were (hypothetically) released the same year at the same time, do you really think you'd prefer DAM still?

I think that unleashed is just too familiar. Its mechanic are polished but its just the third time round and doesn't hold are attention as much as it use to.

Like Hammysammy said, it's the quality that has people coming back to Smash Brothers, Street Fighter and Mortal Kombat, just like it happens with those games, Godzilla DAMM is the most re-visitable title of the trilogy because of its quality. Unleashed is a bit too unpolished.

[hammysammy59]

Smaller more interactive arenas you say? That kind of sounds like what they did in Def Jam Fight for New York! In that game you could grapple, box, or just plain grab stuff to beat your opponent unconscious, not to mention being able to slam them into destructible objects in the background, like cars. I guess the Godzilla equivalent would be a solitary large building you could keep slamming an opponent into until it comes crashing down on them.

YES! YESSSSS! THIS EXACTLY! Def Jam Fight for NY is the game that made me realize that Godzilla was born to be a wrestling-style game. You nailed it on the arena idea too! Have you read my old posts, or are we just on EXACTLY the same page here?

There was a special stage in Def Jam where you could throw your opponent(s) in front of an on-coming subway train. I'd love to see hardcore ring-outs like that with a Godzilla game. Instead of a train, toss your opponent off a cliff into the ocean, or maybe slam-dunk their ass into a volcano! I love the idea of having compact arenas based around one or two awesome, interactive landmarks.

[GreenAiden555]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godzilla:_Unleashed

Look at release dates.

Look at Japan.

Wat.

[Living Corpse]

It's false. Japan already got the game.

[Gigan X3]

I believe the game was actually never released in japan.

[JVM]

I believe the game was actually never released in japan.

Chris has said this a few times, too. It never came out in Japan as far as we've been told.

[Living Corpse]

I could have sworn it was. Oh well, it would have still sucked either way.

[Gigan X3]

It would have been better with the boxart alone, Japan always gets the cool boxarts!

[Living Corpse]

It would have been better with the boxart alone, Japan always gets the cool boxarts!

I know right? And what do we get? Corny art that just reinforces the average joe's stigma of this franchise. Yeah that's totally gonna get more people besides fans to cough up money Pipworks.

[Gigan X3]

Sure is one of the worst boxarts there is.

[Giga Kaiju]

^ The best cover for "US" so far has to be "Save the Earth" (if im not wrong).

[Living Corpse]

^ The best cover for "US" so far has to be "Save the Earth" (if im not wrong).

That one actually looks epic instead of corny. My only real complaint is that instead of Heisei Mothra they have Rainbow Mothra on the cover and we all know Leo isn't in that game. =/

[3000]

^ The best cover for "US" so far has to be "Save the Earth" (if im not wrong).

That one actually looks epic instead of corny. My only real complaint is that instead of Heisei Mothra they have Rainbow Mothra on the cover and we all know Leo isn't in that game. =/

Bit of a nitpick, don't you think?

[Living Corpse]

My god what have I become?

*Shoots self*

[JVM]

The real tragic thing about GU's cover art in my opinion is the original G-Fest poster it's based on totally works. Why they replaced the regal-looking G2K there with the cartoony roaring Godzilla I wish I knew. The rest of it could be lived with.

[CatfaceFourtoes]

Smaller more interactive arenas you say? That kind of sounds like what they did in Def Jam Fight for New York! In that game you could grapple, box, or just plain grab stuff to beat your opponent unconscious, not to mention being able to slam them into destructible objects in the background, like cars. I guess the Godzilla equivalent would be a solitary large building you could keep slamming an opponent into until it comes crashing down on them.

YES! YESSSSS! THIS EXACTLY! Def Jam Fight for NY is the game that made me realize that Godzilla was born to be a wrestling-style game. You nailed it on the arena idea too! Have you read my old posts, or are we just on EXACTLY the same page here?

There was a special stage in Def Jam where you could throw your opponent(s) in front of an on-coming subway train. I'd love to see hardcore ring-outs like that with a Godzilla game. Instead of a train, toss your opponent off a cliff into the ocean, or maybe slam-dunk their ass into a volcano! I love the idea of having compact arenas based around one or two awesome, interactive landmarks.

Maybe that is what has always been missing in the game series, arena hazards! Think about it. Scores of Toho monster battles have involved environmental hazards, like the Volcano that claimed the warring gargantuas in War of The Gargantuas, or the volcanic fissure that Godzilla and Battra fall into! I just got the image of Godzilla tossing an opponent into Tokyo Bay as Dr. Serizawa activates the Oxygen Destroyer! The desecated bones of the monster could come leaping out of the boiling water at Godzilla a la Crocomire from Super Metroid!