Weapons Talkback: Super-X

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Weapons Talkback: Super-X

Postby Living Corpse » Mon Oct 10, 2011 5:42 pm

Damn this sunna bitch is tough. It actually won round one against Godzilla and had him down for the count and it wasn't even made for monster combat, just to protect the mainland from invading countries and cool down overheat reactors. Too bad that nuke went off in the air. I love this thing, it's more like a flying fortress then a tank. So begins a trend in which man is not totally helpless and manages to make a few weapons that can harm monsters along with mostly useless weapons.

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Amazing how a weapon small enough to be held in Godzilla's hand or his mouth could withstand several beam blasts. That armor must be thicker then it looks.

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Re: Weapons Talkback: Super-X

Postby therealmccoy » Mon Oct 10, 2011 5:57 pm

An awesome and interesting weapon, and a good start to the Heisei series of Godzilla movies. As LC said; man shows he actually has brains and creates a weapon that doesn't...just...suck. To put Godzilla on his ass is to accomplish a great feat. My favorite out of the three; maybe because of nostalgia, but it was the only one to truly neutralize Godzilla for more than a minute or two. Even the Super-X III, which froze Godzilla solid could not keep him down for that long. A great and original idea.
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Re: Weapons Talkback: Super-X

Postby Tohosaurus » Mon Oct 10, 2011 6:00 pm

I'm with you guys. I too prefer the original, but Super X II is pretty awesome itself. I'm not a big fan of Super X III, however.
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Re: Weapons Talkback: Super-X

Postby therealmccoy » Mon Oct 10, 2011 6:06 pm

Tohosaurus wrote:I'm with you guys. I too prefer the original, but Super X II is pretty awesome itself. I'm not a big fan of Super X III, however.

The Super-X III was a plot device, I guess is how you would put it, and nothing more. It served no purpose other than to have a convenient way to try to neutralize Godzilla. Not a really impressive mech to me. The XII was better; the fire-mirror was a great original idea, plus the underwater combat ability, but that was it for me. The original had lasers (or masers; whichever you choose I guess) and stuff. Lasers are cool.
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Re: Weapons Talkback: Super-X

Postby Tohosaurus » Mon Oct 10, 2011 6:17 pm

therealmccoy wrote:The Super-X III was a plot device, I guess is how you would put it, and nothing more. It served no purpose other than to have a convenient way to try to neutralize Godzilla. Not a really impressive mech to me. The XII was better; the fire-mirror was a great original idea, plus the underwater combat ability, but that was it for me. The original had lasers (or masers; whichever you choose I guess) and stuff. Lasers are cool.

Well my issue isn't so much with that. I just didn't care for the design. Its weaponry and placement in the movie wasn't a problem, although in regards to the latter I still snicker at Super X III's non-explosive heads that, ya know, clearly explode on impact. :lol:

So yeah, my main complaint is the uninspiring design. The Super X family as a whole is actually my favorite JSDF craft, above the Gotengo, Garuda, etc.
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Re: Weapons Talkback: Super-X

Postby HayesAJones » Mon Oct 10, 2011 6:23 pm

I like it as an intermediate weapon. It's way tougher than the usual masers and jets, yet not as strong as super-machines like the Mechagodzillas.
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Re: Weapons Talkback: Super-X

Postby VamprisArachne » Mon Oct 10, 2011 6:28 pm

I love the Super-X, the whole flying super weapon is awesome, and its theme is Epic :D
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Re: Weapons Talkback: Super-X

Postby Living Corpse » Mon Oct 10, 2011 6:35 pm

VamprisArachne wrote: and its theme is Epic :D


Damn right.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0xr66DF8wM
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Re: Weapons Talkback: Super-X

Postby VamprisArachne » Mon Oct 10, 2011 6:37 pm

Living Corpse wrote:
VamprisArachne wrote: and its theme is Epic :D


Damn right.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0xr66DF8wM


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Re: Weapons Talkback: Super-X

Postby therealmccoy » Mon Oct 10, 2011 7:08 pm

The theme for this X is better than the theme for the other two. This theme seems more badass, and yes, it gets you pumped more. The XII's theme was too... "happy" for me. The XIII's theme was only marginally better, but just seemed too regular for a machine of such importance. It sounded like nothing more than a revamped military march.


Super XIII FTW. :huge:
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Re: Weapons Talkback: Super-X

Postby Ookondru99 » Mon Oct 10, 2011 7:32 pm

I like it's origins. It has the most realistic of the three.
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Re: Weapons Talkback: Super-X

Postby therealmccoy » Mon Oct 10, 2011 7:40 pm

Ookondru99 wrote:I like it's origins. It has the most realistic of the three.

Well, they all had kind of the same origins; they were all built by the SDF. But if you mean the concept, which was somewhat new (cadmium missiles used against radiation; why not Godzilla?) then yes, absolutely.
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Re: Weapons Talkback: Super-X

Postby Ookondru99 » Tue Oct 11, 2011 8:51 am

I mean like the purpose they were built for. The first super x was built in case the cold war turned into the next world war, as Japan's super weapon. The second one was built to protect Japan from Godzilla. The third was made to deal with nuclear accidents.
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Re: Weapons Talkback: Super-X

Postby Tyler » Tue Oct 11, 2011 9:08 am

I like it, it looks like something that could work.
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Re: Weapons Talkback: Super-X

Postby therealmccoy » Tue Oct 11, 2011 2:04 pm

Ookondru99 wrote:I mean like the purpose they were built for. The first super x was built in case the cold war turned into the next world war, as Japan's super weapon. The second one was built to protect Japan from Godzilla. The third was made to deal with nuclear accidents.

Ok, I get it. Yeah, the guy did say it was built to protect the capital.
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Re: Weapons Talkback: Super-X

Postby Dust_pan » Tue Oct 11, 2011 2:10 pm

Loved this weapon. Everything about it (and its relatives) was cool.

I would've loved seeing more films where Godzilla's only opponent is the military and some awesome-looking weapon(s). Not counting those giant monster-esque machines like Mecha G.
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Re: Weapons Talkback: Super-X

Postby therealmccoy » Tue Oct 11, 2011 2:14 pm

Dust_pan wrote:Loved this weapon. Everything about it (and its relatives) was cool.

I would've loved seeing more films where Godzilla's only opponent is the military and some awesome-looking weapon(s). Not counting those giant monster-esque machines like Mecha G.

Now that you said that, a superweapon on a smaller scale like the Super-X is more believable than a Mechagodzilla. It didn't seem too awfully far-fetched.
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Re: Weapons Talkback: Super-X

Postby edgaguirus » Tue Oct 11, 2011 9:12 pm

The Super X was a sound weapon, both in combat and believability. The millitary has experimented with the concept of flying tanks, so a vehicle like this is more plausible than a giant robot monster. It also packs quite a punch.
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Re: Weapons Talkback: Super-X

Postby kaijukurt » Sat Oct 15, 2011 6:54 am

Yeah, to be to honest, I'd rather see a new film with Godzilla battling military and technological super weapons rather than a new film with the same old "kaiju vs kaiju" plot. Just once, at least (aside from ROG).
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Re: Weapons Talkback: Super-X

Postby Tohosaurus » Sat Oct 15, 2011 8:21 am

kaijukurt wrote:Yeah, to be to honest, I'd rather see a new film with Godzilla battling military and technological super weapons rather than a new film with the same old "kaiju vs kaiju" plot. Just once, at least (aside from ROG).

I agree. I'm still looking forward to LPG more than any other film that's set to come out and it could be wonderful. I'd still like to see a new solo Godzilla movie again someday, a la G54 and RoG.
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