"Godzilla" - Back to Suits? Possible Design? Nope, Hoax.

[Blackout286]

Sooo....Any clue when LP are gonna step in and diffuse all of this? As of now this false news has already spread widely like a forest fire. Time to put it out.

[therealmccoy]

Sooo....Any clue when LP are gonna step in and diffuse all of this? As of now this false news has already spread widely like a forest fire. Time to put it out.

I don't think they really give a shit. It gets fans all hyped for the movie. Some of it is stupid, like the notion that a country who has been using computer animation for years would even consider using a rubber suit and handmade miniatures. Everybody knows it's bullshit. I for one am interested to see how good of a job they do with a CG Godzilla.

[Rockzilla]

I was kinda hoping this news wasn't a hoax, but I remember seeing that design long ago. I'm not a huge fan of the look but the news of using a suit got me excited. I figured the part about using a suit was too good to be true. Some of the people behind that dogshit Thing prequel promised practical effects, but instead we get crappy cgi.

[therealmccoy]

I don't see what the big deal is about CGI. If it is done correctly and with care, it can be a wonderful way to bring creatures to life. I prefer practical effects, but I'm not all "CGI sucks ass; practical effects are all I'll accept" or anything. I expect Godzilla to look as good as he ever did in this movie. It's a pretty fair bet that Legendary won't use some Sy-Fy shit SFX for this. CGI haters in my experience have been just a bunch of fanboys who refuse to accept that Godzilla will someday be portrayed in that manner. I've never heard of people complaining about the CG in Jurassic Park, whether they liked the movie or not. I've heard people praise the Kraken in Clash of the Titans. He was a giant monster. If you go into the movie with a stubborn attitude that it can't be anything different than the oldies, you're not going to enjoy it.

[gatorzilla]

I don't see what the big deal is about CGI. If it is done correctly and with care, it can be a wonderful way to bring creatures to life. I prefer practical effects, but I'm not all "CGI sucks ass; practical effects are all I'll accept" or anything. I expect Godzilla to look as good as he ever did in this movie. It's a pretty fair bet that Legendary won't use some Sy-Fy shit SFX for this. CGI haters in my experience have been just a bunch of fanboys who refuse to accept that Godzilla will someday be portrayed in that manner. I've never heard of people complaining about the CG in Jurassic Park, whether they liked the movie or not. I've heard people praise the Kraken in Clash of the Titans. He was a giant monster. If you go into the movie with a stubborn attitude that it can't be anything different than the oldies, you're not going to enjoy it.

Agreed. My personal favorite CGI has been motion capture (King Kong, Avatar etc) as it gives the most realistic version. Combinations of CGI and animatronics (Jurassic Park) are also an excellent choice too. But just plain CGI can look just as good depending on how its done.

[XxComablack1937xX]

I don't see what the big deal is about CGI. If it is done correctly and with care, it can be a wonderful way to bring creatures to life. I prefer practical effects, but I'm not all "CGI sucks ass; practical effects are all I'll accept" or anything. I expect Godzilla to look as good as he ever did in this movie. It's a pretty fair bet that Legendary won't use some Sy-Fy shit SFX for this. CGI haters in my experience have been just a bunch of fanboys who refuse to accept that Godzilla will someday be portrayed in that manner. I've never heard of people complaining about the CG in Jurassic Park, whether they liked the movie or not. I've heard people praise the Kraken in Clash of the Titans. He was a giant monster. If you go into the movie with a stubborn attitude that it can't be anything different than the oldies, you're not going to enjoy it.

Well said an 100% agree with it... I look forward an welcome a proper CGI Godzilla all the way.

[Hellspawn28]

CG is fine depending how it's used. Just don't over do it and have the CG look so god awful like in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory (2005) for example.

[Tyler]

Just don't over do it and have the CG look so god awful like in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory (2005) for example.

That's a very odd example. It was supposed to look all weird and cartoony. I mean it was a Tim Burton movie.

[Rockzilla]

I don't see what the big deal is about CGI. If it is done correctly and with care, it can be a wonderful way to bring creatures to life. I prefer practical effects, but I'm not all "CGI sucks ass; practical effects are all I'll accept" or anything. I expect Godzilla to look as good as he ever did in this movie. It's a pretty fair bet that Legendary won't use some Sy-Fy shit SFX for this. CGI haters in my experience have been just a bunch of fanboys who refuse to accept that Godzilla will someday be portrayed in that manner. I've never heard of people complaining about the CG in Jurassic Park, whether they liked the movie or not. I've heard people praise the Kraken in Clash of the Titans. He was a giant monster. If you go into the movie with a stubborn attitude that it can't be anything different than the oldies, you're not going to enjoy it.

Well, most cgi has been really shitty. So can you really blame people like me who hate it? Sure the cgi in Jurrasic Park was pretty good, but it is really sad that it looks better than most cgi today. I admit that robots and Iron Man's armor can be done in cgi and look great, but organic beings just don't fare as well IMO. I still stand by that if Aliens and Predators can still be accepted in costumes then so can Godzilla.

Anyone remember that cgi in Alien 3?

[Blackout286]

Organic beings don't fare well? Surely King Kong 2005 would like to have a word with you.

[HeiseiGodzilla117]

Well, most cgi has been really shitty.

Puh-leez. Most SFX in general are really shitty.

Most of the big movies today that rely on CGI use it extremely well. So I have no idea where all this "CGI is teh Devul!1!!!!11" stuff comes from. Avatar, King Kong, Transformers, Iron Man and many other movies use heavy CGI that looks excellent.

I still stand by that if Aliens and Predators can still be accepted in costumes then so can Godzilla.

Implying that the general public has accepted Godzilla being a guy in a suit in recent years.

[Hellspawn28]

I still stand by that if Aliens and Predators can still be accepted in costumes then so can Godzilla.

I think that's different since they are much smaller and can be more believable. I don't think it will work for Godzilla in a American film due to the audience differences.

[therealmccoy]

Well, most cgi has been really shitty. So can you really blame people like me who hate it? Sure the cgi in Jurrasic Park was pretty good, but it is really sad that it looks better than most cgi today. I admit that robots and Iron Man's armor can be done in cgi and look great, but organic beings just don't fare as well IMO. I still stand by that if Aliens and Predators can still be accepted in costumes then so can Godzilla.

Yeah, but for Aliens and Predators, you don't have to build miniature cities to make them look like giant monsters. Godzilla is a giant monster, and that technology is outdated over here for that type of thing.

To answer that question, everybody has their own preferences. What I was going to say is that when people have a reason for liking or disliking a certain method of SFX, it's ok; I have no problem with that at all; but statements like "CGI sucks ass!" are just ridiculous. Why does it suck? At least say you prefer practical effects. At least that's a reason. And I don't buy all that jazz that most CGI is shit stuff. The examples that HeiseiGodzilla gave above are great ones, and there are plenty more, and there will be even more as long as movies are being produced.

Here's another thing: When Clash of the Titans was remade, I never heard anybody going around saying "Man, the Kraken better be stop-motion, or it's going to suck!" It's the same frickin' thing as what's being said about Godzilla, and I don't see how the argument can be made otherwise; besides the fact that stop-motion is very outdated and time-consuming. But both Godzilla and the Kraken were practical effects, were they not? Why is Godzilla not being given that same consideration? Just because he was always a man in a suit? That doesn't make sense to me; I would love to see Godzilla portrayed by a suit again, but it's not going to happen for a long time. I'm going to accept the fact and go into this with an open mind, instead of spouting out empty statements about my preferences.

[Tyler]

Anyone remember that cgi in Alien 3?

That was a super imposed rod puppet. The first CG Alien wasn't seen until Resurrection where they swam and had jacked up bird legs.