Deadliest Monster Millennium

[Goji]

It's just a shame that the FW Gigan seemed like such a fragile cyborg in comparison to the Showa version, who was tough as nails (but a coward).

[Irys X]

I beg to differ. The Showa Gigan took on nothing even close to the power of GWF Godzilla's ray or a kamakaze Mothra. Plus, he didnt have a beam to back up his close quarter fighting. The thing that really stood out to me about GFW Gigan, besided his brutal weapons, was his speed and maneuverability in air. He could rival even Megaguirus.

[Dust_pan]

Makes me wonder why Godzilla didn't just shoot Gigan's face again when he was being double-teamed.

[Goji]

I'm going by what was presented on screen, Irys X, which showed us Gigan couldn't even take a direct hit from Godzilla's ray. Sure, he's "fast", but he's still fragile in the context of the universe created in FINAL WARS. Weather or not the Showa Gigan would be able to take a hit from the flaming Mothra is irrelevant.

[Brian4205]

Nobody could take a direct hit from Godzillas beam in that movie, and don't think it was because they were frail and weak. Godzilla in Final Wars is the super sayain of the Toho verse, he has the ability to beat any other Toho monster 1v1, with only a few giving him any sort of challenge.

[Goji]

Considering it made Hedorah explode for no apparent reason (who shouldn't have even been affected by Godzilla's ray), you're probably right.

[Gigan X3]

Considering it made Hedorah explode for no apparent reason (who shouldn't have even been affected by Godzilla's ray), you're probably right.

I think that beam has gods inside of it, it pushes things, it makes shit explode, it blows heads, etc.

[Brian4205]

Considering it made Hedorah explode for no apparent reason (who shouldn't have even been affected by Godzilla's ray), you're probably right.

I think that beam has gods inside of it, it pushes things, it makes shit explode, it blows heads, etc.

Speaking of which, after he got that spiral beam he was upgraded to super saiyan 2.

[GotengoXGodzilla]

Considering it made Hedorah explode for no apparent reason (who shouldn't have even been affected by Godzilla's ray), you're probably right.

Hedorah didn't explode in GFW, though. When the film cuts back to the Xilien Leader's reaction to the fight, you can hear Hedorah roaring. He lived, and so did Ebirah. The only thing that beam did was push the building that Hedorah and Ebirah were up against into another building, which then caused the two buildings to explode.

As for the power of GFW Godzilla's beam...yeah, it freakin' sucks in terms of power.

[Tyler]

According to Toho the only monsters who survive Final Wars are Godzilla and Minilla.

[GotengoXGodzilla]

According to Toho the only monsters who survive Final Wars are Godzilla and Minilla.

I'm not saying that Hedorah and Ebirah didn't die. I'm just saying that Godzilla killed Hedorah and Ebirah off-screen.

[RedZillaKing]

According to Toho the only monsters who survive Final Wars are Godzilla and Minilla.

Toho lied. Anguirus, King Seesar, and Rodan were still alive and piled up in a comedic way. They were going to kill them but decided not to finish them off. For budget reasons I think.

You know what? Keizer Ghidorah was the only monster able to knock Godzilla around. Since that was SS Gozilla, I'll have to give it to him.

[Irys X]

Hedorah didn't explode in GFW, though. When the film cuts back to the Xilien Leader's reaction to the fight, you can hear Hedorah roaring. He lived, and so did Ebirah. The only thing that beam did was push the building that Hedorah and Ebirah were up against into another building, which then caused the two buildings to explode.

As for the power of GFW Godzilla's beam...yeah, it freakin' sucks in terms of power.

Oi. They exploded both because of the beam and the building. And the fact that his beam is powerful enough to shoot two monsters halfway across the city is pretty self explanatory. GODZILLA FINAL WARS"S BEAM DOES MORE THAN PUSH. It blows things up all the time in the movie. He destroyed a meteor with it! That wasnt just push. Anywyay, yeah, gotta be a better argument than that.

[GotengoXGodzilla]

They exploded both because of the beam and the building.

That beam didn't explode anything. It pushed the building into another building, which then caused both buildings to explode. And since you can hear Hedorah and Ebirah's roars afterwards, its obvious that even that didn't kill them.

And the fact that his beam is powerful enough to shoot two monsters halfway across the city is pretty self explanatory.

It pushed them, but there's no evidence to say that it hurt them.

GODZILLA FINAL WARS"S BEAM DOES MORE THAN PUSH. It blows things up all the time in the movie.

And the things that it did blow up were INCREDIBLY fragile, such as Gigan's head, Zilla and Keizer Ghidorah.

He destroyed a meteor with it!

...No, he didn't. The meteor crashed into Tokyo. That's why there was that huge ass crater. The only thing that beam did was possibly slow the meteor down.

[Brian4205]

^ Uh yeah, he did blow it up in the atmosphere, I don't know what the crater was from, but Godzilla wouldn't be standing there willy nilly in the center if the asteroid did crash on top of him. That's also why Monster x had to float down.

[GotengoXGodzilla]

^ Uh yeah, he did blow it up in the atmosphere, I don't know what the crater was from, but Godzilla wouldn't be standing there willy nilly in the center if the asteroid did crash on top of him. That's also why Monster x had to float down.

There was a crater there...because the meteor crashed right there. That's also why there was that big ass explosion in the middle of downtown Tokyo. And the reason that Godzilla was just standing there is because he's freakin' Godzilla. He's survived worse.

So yeah, the meteor did crash into downtown Tokyo.

[RedZillaKing]

Keizer Ghidorah was incredibly fragile?? Talk about your glass cannons...

Anyway, perhaps they weren't fragile. Maybe Godzilla was f***ing strong. That was the impression that I got...

[GotengoXGodzilla]

Keizer Ghidorah was incredibly fragile?? Talk about your glass cannons...

Anyway, perhaps they weren't fragile. Maybe Godzilla was f***ing strong. That was the impression that I got...

...No. Just about every single kaiju in GFW could hardly take more than one hit without falling over in pain or dying. As I've said, GFW Godzilla's ray is not that strong, because it's mostly all kinetic force, with little to no explosive force at all. Sure, it killed kaiju, but it's still almost all kinetic and little explosive. That tells you that those kaiju which died in one hit (like Gigan, Zilla and a head of Keizer Ghidorah) are just incredibly fragile.

Then there's kaiju like Rodan, Anguirus and King Ceasar, all of which were knocked out in one hit. Rodan was knocked out by getting hit with Anguirus. Anguirus was knocked out by hitting a hill. And King Ceasar was knocked out by hitting his head on a hill. To me, if a kaiju is knocked out by hitting a mound of rocks, then that's a weak kaiju. Especially since Godzilla did next to nothing in that fight. Rodan, Anguirus and King Ceasar basically did it to themselves.

In terms of the strength of Godzilla's, GFW Godzilla is only average. No where near as powerful as Godzilla's like Heisei, Late Showa or GXM.

[kaiju_wars]

^ Uh yeah, he did blow it up in the atmosphere, I don't know what the crater was from, but Godzilla wouldn't be standing there willy nilly in the center if the asteroid did crash on top of him. That's also why Monster x had to float down.

There was a crater there...because the meteor crashed right there. That's also why there was that big ass explosion in the middle of downtown Tokyo. And the reason that Godzilla was just standing there is because he's freakin' Godzilla. He's survived worse.

So yeah, the meteor did crash into downtown Tokyo.

According to Kaiju HQ, the meteor slowed down by Godzilla beam, and Big-G's beam made it explode right before impact. The explosion was just close enough to the ground that it caused a crater.

[GotengoXGodzilla]

^ Uh yeah, he did blow it up in the atmosphere, I don't know what the crater was from, but Godzilla wouldn't be standing there willy nilly in the center if the asteroid did crash on top of him. That's also why Monster x had to float down.

There was a crater there...because the meteor crashed right there. That's also why there was that big ass explosion in the middle of downtown Tokyo. And the reason that Godzilla was just standing there is because he's freakin' Godzilla. He's survived worse.

So yeah, the meteor did crash into downtown Tokyo.

According to Kaiju HQ, the meteor slowed down by Godzilla beam, and Big-G's beam made it explode right before impact. The explosion was just close enough to the ground that it caused a crater.

If it exploded right before impact, then the crater wouldn't have been as big as it was. Sure, there would have been a crater, but the one in the film was freakin' huge. Also, a meteor of that size would not have made an explosion that small if it exploded right before impact. If it did explode like that, the explosion would have been MUCH bigger. And there would have been debris flying everywhere.

The way the film shows it, what with how it zooms right into Godzilla's face (which we can assume is the meteor's perspective), makes it look like the meteor hits Tokyo.