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Re: Marvel comics discussion

Postby kaiju_wars » Thu Sep 15, 2011 6:54 pm

Uh, anybody remember Civil War, Planet Hulk, Marvel Zombies, World War Hulk?
Those were awesome.
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Re: Marvel comics discussion

Postby wataru » Fri Sep 16, 2011 8:18 am

kaiju_wars wrote:Uh, anybody remember Civil War, Planet Hulk, Marvel Zombies, World War Hulk?
Those were awesome.


Civil War was stupid.
Planet Hulk was great.
Marvel Zombies is forgetable
World War Hulk ended stupidly.
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Re: Marvel comics discussion

Postby Showa Gyaos » Fri Sep 16, 2011 8:50 am

Red Hulk was/still is ridiculously unappealing.
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Re: Marvel comics discussion

Postby wataru » Fri Sep 16, 2011 8:54 am

Showa Gyaos wrote:Red Hulk was/still is ridiculously unappealing.


IMHO most of Hulk's extended family us...

She-Hulk and Samson are the only ones with anything going for them.
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Re: Marvel comics discussion

Postby mecha-gino » Fri Sep 16, 2011 10:45 am

kaiju_wars wrote:Uh, anybody remember Civil War, Planet Hulk, Marvel Zombies, World War Hulk?
Those were awesome.

Civil War, I didn't care for. People have brought up good reasons as too why it sucks.
Both Planet Hulk and World War Hulk was AWESOME! It's just a shame after SUCH MAJOR AWESOMENESS... it got a whole lot crappy.

Marvel zombies is good, depending on the series.
Vol 1- AWESOME! I really do love it.
Vol 2- AWESOME but some people find it not as good as the first but I like it.
Vol 3- AWFUL, there's really nothing all that good about it other then what happens after the zombies from the first one leave. Well that and Morbius alternate reality self is a Zombie Vampire.
Vol 4- Pretty cool actually, but then again I have a soft spot for the
Returns - Some issues were good, some were miss but I liked it except for the ending. The origin of the virus is so Convoluted, it would make Donny Troy blush... at least I think she's like that.
Evil Evolution - Hey, remember the Marvel Apes? Yeah, me neither. So what they decided to do was crossover the monkeys with the zombies. I heard it was terrible, and I don't intend to read Gorilla Grodd's plan being fulfilled in the Marvel universe fighting Zombies. PLUS IT GIVES US YET ANOTHER EXPLANATION FOR THE VIRUS!
Marvel Zombies 5 - SUCKED SO HARD! It's just AWFUL except for the issue with Killraven, I thought that was pretty cool.
Blackest Ni... I mean Marvel Zombies Supreme - Other then the issue around Hyperion, it sucked. Nuff said, but then again it's poking fun at Blackest Night so no surprise really.
Marvel Zombies vs. The Army of Darkness- This series rocked, nuff said.
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Re: Marvel comics discussion

Postby kaiju_wars » Fri Sep 16, 2011 1:27 pm

mecha-gino wrote:
kaiju_wars wrote:Uh, anybody remember Civil War, Planet Hulk, Marvel Zombies, World War Hulk?
Those were awesome.

Civil War, I didn't care for. People have brought up good reasons as too why it sucks.
Both Planet Hulk and World War Hulk was AWESOME! It's just a shame after SUCH MAJOR AWESOMENESS... it got a whole lot crappy.

Marvel zombies is good, depending on the series.
Vol 1- AWESOME! I really do love it.
Vol 2- AWESOME but some people find it not as good as the first but I like it.
Vol 3- AWFUL, there's really nothing all that good about it other then what happens after the zombies from the first one leave. Well that and Morbius alternate reality self is a Zombie Vampire.
Vol 4- Pretty cool actually, but then again I have a soft spot for the
Returns - Some issues were good, some were miss but I liked it except for the ending. The origin of the virus is so Convoluted, it would make Donny Troy blush... at least I think she's like that.
Evil Evolution - Hey, remember the Marvel Apes? Yeah, me neither. So what they decided to do was crossover the monkeys with the zombies. I heard it was terrible, and I don't intend to read Gorilla Grodd's plan being fulfilled in the Marvel universe fighting Zombies. PLUS IT GIVES US YET ANOTHER EXPLANATION FOR THE VIRUS!
Marvel Zombies 5 - SUCKED SO HARD! It's just AWFUL except for the issue with Killraven, I thought that was pretty cool.
Blackest Ni... I mean Marvel Zombies Supreme - Other then the issue around Hyperion, it sucked. Nuff said, but then again it's poking fun at Blackest Night so no surprise really.
Marvel Zombies vs. The Army of Darkness- This series rocked, nuff said.




I agree with plenty of what you said, except Civil War, one of my top 5 favorite Marvel stories.
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Re: Marvel comics discussion

Postby wataru » Fri Sep 16, 2011 1:29 pm

There are MUCH better reads from Marvel between 2005 and 2010. Civil War pales in comparison to the 5 year Messiah Complex/War/Second Coming arc. Seige and Dark Reign make Civil War look childish.

Civil War is 4 years old and pretty much everything that happened doesnt even matter anymore. It's like reading Mutant Massacare or Fall of the Mutants - doesnt matter, not even remotely relevent anymore.
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Re: Marvel comics discussion

Postby kaiju_wars » Fri Sep 16, 2011 1:34 pm

wataru wrote:There are MUCH better reads from Marvel between 2005 and 2010. Civil War pales in comparison to the 5 year Messiah Complex/War/Second Coming arc. Seige and Dark Reign make Civil War look childish.

Civil War is 4 years old and pretty much everything that happened doesnt even matter anymore. It's like reading Mutant Massacare or Fall of the Mutants - doesnt matter, not even remotely relevent anymore.


Okay, even if it is, people are still allowed to like it and read it. No one really cares that much. It is just an opinion. I personally like it, if you don't, okay then, that is your opinion, and I respect that.
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Re: Marvel comics discussion

Postby mecha-gino » Fri Sep 16, 2011 1:44 pm

kaiju_wars wrote:I agree with plenty of what you said, except Civil War, one of my top 5 favorite Marvel stories.

Well that's cool, more power to you. I've been meaning to re-read it when I get the chance, the FF tie in the most. Now while I don't care for it much at the time being, I will give props for it being something big and kind of changed things in the Marvel U... kind of or atleast until they were retconned or changed.. The idea itself isn't all that original because it's been done in the incredibles and in X-men I believe or atleast in the 90's animated series. Maybe DC has done it too, but I dunno but it's okay if you like it.

I will say I find this funny.

During Civil War and a little after it: BOO! WE HATE IRON MAN, HE'S SUCH A DICK!

After the movie comes out: WOO! I LOVE IRON MAN, HE'S SO COOL!!!

It's funny how people change. Oh and there's going to be a second volume of the invincible iron man omnibus by Matt Fraction. skreeonk YES, I've been waiting for that shit to be made! Totally buying volume one and two together! And now thanks to the library, I'll be reading Ironman/Thor because I can and I'm interested in it.
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Re: Marvel comics discussion

Postby kaiju_wars » Fri Sep 16, 2011 2:46 pm

mecha-gino wrote:
kaiju_wars wrote:I agree with plenty of what you said, except Civil War, one of my top 5 favorite Marvel stories.

Well that's cool, more power to you. I've been meaning to re-read it when I get the chance, the FF tie in the most. Now while I don't care for it much at the time being, I will give props for it being something big and kind of changed things in the Marvel U... kind of or atleast until they were retconned or changed.. The idea itself isn't all that original because it's been done in the incredibles and in X-men I believe or atleast in the 90's animated series. Maybe DC has done it too, but I dunno but it's okay if you like it.

I will say I find this funny.

During Civil War and a little after it: BOO! WE HATE IRON MAN, HE'S SUCH A DICK!

After the movie comes out: WOO! I LOVE IRON MAN, HE'S SO COOL!!!

It's funny how people change. Oh and there's going to be a second volume of the invincible iron man omnibus by Matt Fraction. skreeonk YES, I've been waiting for that shit to be made! Totally buying volume one and two together! And now thanks to the library, I'll be reading Ironman/Thor because I can and I'm interested in it.



While, I like Iron Man, but just the concept, I still think he is a dick, majorly. I dislike, ever since reading Civil War, he just pulled a bitch move with what he did.
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Re: Marvel comics discussion

Postby anguirusnut94 » Sat Sep 17, 2011 2:04 pm

I despise Ultimate Marvel. 'Nuff said.
Of course, I'm still pissed about them killing Nightcrawler off in the normal Marvel-verse, so what can I say?
Oh, yeah! Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver doing it? Seriously, Marvel? WTF?!?! I could put up with making Colossus gay, but Incest is just... urg... And what's with the Cannibalism obbsession?
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Re: Marvel comics discussion

Postby Showa Gyaos » Sun Sep 18, 2011 10:12 am

Who is the strongest Hulk?
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Re: Marvel comics discussion

Postby wataru » Sun Sep 18, 2011 10:18 am

Showa Gyaos wrote:Who is the strongest Hulk?


Depends on the writer.
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Re: Marvel comics discussion

Postby Biollante » Sun Sep 18, 2011 10:18 am

Showa Gyaos wrote:Who is the strongest Hulk?

She-Hulk.

She can spit out Hulk babies.
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Re: Marvel comics discussion

Postby wataru » Sun Sep 18, 2011 10:22 am

Biollante wrote:
Showa Gyaos wrote:Who is the strongest Hulk?

She-Hulk.

She can spit out Hulk babies.


Assuming she mates with another Hulkified person. The last Hulking, Skaar, is weaker then his father.
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Re: Marvel comics discussion

Postby Lunescent » Mon Sep 19, 2011 8:08 pm

I am a huge Hulk fan, I actually have every comic he has ever been in. I started reading them from the very first one he ever appeared in. (Which was "Journey Into Mystery #83" which came out in 1962.) Yup, I'm a Thor nerd. The only thing that makes me disappointed about my "nerdism," where Thor is concerned, is that I haven't read them all yet!
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Re: Marvel comics discussion

Postby mecha-gino » Mon Sep 19, 2011 9:11 pm

Showa Gyaos wrote:Who is the strongest Hulk?

Depends which version really and sometimes writers effect this too but here's the ones I think could be classified as that.

-World War Hulk: The Hulk that pretty much took on everyone(excepted Thor) and kicked their asses. Even the Sentry who is arguably the strongest hero in the Marvel Universe couldn't put him either... kind of. He reverted him back to Bruce so if you want to call that a victory, then go ahead but I say Sentry was holding back a little still.

-Maestro: The guy from an alternate future in which the world suffered a total nuclear war killing off many heroes but in doing so made Hulk became even more powerful then before and he took out the remaining heroes and let me tell you he is ridiculously strong, not even the past strongest version of Hulk Merged hulk could stop him. And what he does after killing any heroes/villains is he makes a trophy room using whatever remains of them whether it's a helmet, weapon(Mjolnir somehow is there), or even skeleton(Wolverine) as trophies.

-Red Hulk: I say this when he had the Loebforce where he was INCREDIBLY unbalanced both in the traditional way and nontraditional way. Took out The Abomination who's like Hulk's archenemy and killed him with a gun(Really lame btw), made hulk black out, defeated Odin Force Thor(MAJOR WTF there), killed hulk WITH A FRIGGIN TRIDENT, Knocked off Namor's block off with said trident, Snapped Silver Surfer's neck, decapitated Terrax with his axe, possibly killed Dr. Strange and his dude, and then finally killed an elder of the universe(Grandmaster) with... his fists. Yeah, he sucks.
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Re: Marvel comics discussion

Postby Hellspawn28 » Mon Sep 19, 2011 11:45 pm

The Hulk had celestial technology before when he was fighting Juggernaut before and that form of Hulk or World Breaker Hulk is often called the strongest. Hulk's powers can be very weak or strongest as hell depending on his anger, he did beat Onslaught after all.
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Re: Marvel comics discussion

Postby mecha-gino » Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:59 am

Well I just finished up Thor/Iron Man: God complex. I rather liked it, I love the idea of Iron man and Thor teaming up and it made me like the Crimson Dynamo and the High Evolutionary a little.

I say check it out, it's a fun read and I always love stories dealing with Magic and Science.
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Re: Marvel comics discussion

Postby The One and Only » Sat Sep 24, 2011 5:26 pm

A sneak peek at what's in store with Cletus Kasady's upcoming cross country tour in CARNAGE USA.
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And Dracula is not doing so well against a Serpent enhanced Hulk in FEAR ITSELF:THE HULK Vs. DRACULA#2http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=9875

Then in the aftermath of FEAR ITSELF, a portion of the hammers wielded by the Serpent's Worthy are still out there, and the race is on to make sure the remaining mystic WMDs don't end up in the wrong hands. The race begins in THE FEARLESS #1.(http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=9857)
And a look at Art Adams upcoming cover art on future issues of THE FEARLESS.(http://www.newsarama.com/php/multimedia/album.php?aid=44336)
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