Talkback Thread #13: Godzilla vs. Megalon (1973)

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Re: Talkback Thread #13: Godzilla vs. Megalon (1973)

Postby shinmattiathekaiju » Tue Aug 23, 2011 11:55 am

Used to love this as a kid but now i dislike this movie due to the shallow plot,bad production(only 3 weeks!?),Jet Jaguar stealing the show and Godzilla's OOCness,but i've never hated the movie,the fight scene is quite enjoyable.
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Re: Talkback Thread #13: Godzilla vs. Megalon (1973)

Postby RogueShuffler » Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:45 am

lol Jack Jaguar!

I loved this movie and all of its campiness its a great way to forget about everything else and let the mind drool a little bit. Not my favorite G movie, not in my top 5 or maybe even 10 but I still really like it. Gets a little too much hate in my opinion. Megalon has always been one of my favorite kaiju
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Re: Talkback Thread #13: Godzilla vs. Megalon (1973)

Postby Showa Gyaos » Thu Aug 25, 2011 3:56 pm

I loved it when Godzilla entered the battlefield to help JJ and started to kick the asses of Gigan and Megalon. :lol:
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Re: Talkback Thread #13: Godzilla vs. Megalon (1973)

Postby daftfalloutgoji » Sat Aug 27, 2011 7:28 am

Godzilla vs Megalon and Godzillas Revenge arent that bad. True they both have alot of stock footage. But have good fight scenes.
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Godzilla vs. Megalon: How could it have been better?

Postby Dash 7 » Tue Nov 08, 2011 9:01 pm

With the advent of the GvsM DVD release, I feel like inquiring this of fans.

Personally, I think minimize the stock footage and flesh out the plot a little and you'd actually have a decent film.
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Re: Godzilla vs. Megalon: How could it have been better?

Postby Space Hunter M » Tue Nov 08, 2011 9:21 pm

If the Japanese film industry wasn't in such dire shape at the time, I think the details you mentioned above could have been easily solved.
In terms of fleshing out the plot, I think more emphasis should have been placed on Seatopia, its inhabitants and their connection with the Nebulans.
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Re: Godzilla vs. Megalon: How could it have been better?

Postby GotengoXGodzilla » Tue Nov 08, 2011 9:28 pm

Rework the story and characters. If both of those had been improved, Godzilla vs. Megalon would have been a great daikaiju film. It already has memorable action sequences, even some that aren't kaiju related.

Godzilla vs. Megalon is the only Godzilla film that I think falls into the category of "So bad, it's good." If it had an improved story and characters, then it would work much better.
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Re: Godzilla vs. Megalon: How could it have been better?

Postby Space Hunter M » Tue Nov 08, 2011 9:38 pm

For the main characters, more focus should have been placed on the development and construction of Jet Jaguar.
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Re: Godzilla vs. Megalon: How could it have been better?

Postby miguelnuva » Tue Nov 08, 2011 9:40 pm

take out jet jaguar and either add zone fighter or let godzilla take them both on single handedly.
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Re: Godzilla vs. Megalon: How could it have been better?

Postby Tamura » Tue Nov 08, 2011 9:41 pm

No amount of "improvement" can save GODZILLA VS. MEGALON. It falls into the same category as the films of Wood, Steckler, Adamson, etc. in that its very essence is quick, trashy entertainment. The plot and characterization are inherently illogical and thin, respectively, and some of the camp appears to be intentional. But none of this stops the movie from being one hell of a fun, colorful ride.
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Re: Godzilla vs. Megalon: How could it have been better?

Postby Living Corpse » Tue Nov 08, 2011 9:49 pm

miguelnuva wrote:take out jet jaguar and either add zone fighter or let godzilla take them both on single handedly.


Zone Fighter wasn't made until later and the movie was originally meant to be a Jet Jaguar film but they decided to add Godzilla. :roll:
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Re: Godzilla vs. Megalon: How could it have been better?

Postby Space Hunter M » Tue Nov 08, 2011 9:54 pm

miguelnuva wrote:take out jet jaguar and either add zone fighter or let godzilla take them both on single handedly.

Let me guess, you hate Riichiro Manebe's score too.
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Re: Godzilla vs. Megalon: How could it have been better?

Postby edgaguirus » Tue Nov 08, 2011 10:31 pm

A complete rewrite would be needed, as well as removing the kid.
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Re: Godzilla vs. Megalon: How could it have been better?

Postby Tohosaurus » Tue Nov 08, 2011 10:32 pm

The first couple of posts are ones I agree with. I think they could've expanded on the Seatopians a lot more to the point where we'd much more easily have sympathy for them. Our main characters were drab and forgettable as it was. As it happened, GvM could've been a nice movie still child-friendly (minus the porn that was removed for the US version). Gamera the Brave is an example of a well received (amongst Japanese movie fans here at least) movie that was child friendly. GvM could've been the same, circa-1973 and all.
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Re: Godzilla vs. Megalon: How could it have been better?

Postby Huan_of_Valinor » Wed Nov 09, 2011 4:41 am

i've already seen an improved version of this movie on MST3K :lol:
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Re: Godzilla vs. Megalon: How could it have been better?

Postby King Caesar » Wed Nov 09, 2011 6:34 am

If they focused more on the characters and the construction of Jet Jaguar, as someone said earlier. The movie is pretty fun to watch though, but it definitely isn't my favorite
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Re: Godzilla vs. Megalon: How could it have been better?

Postby Hellspawn28 » Wed Nov 09, 2011 9:23 am

I think the film is fine how it is. Maybe it could be bit longer but I think the overall movie is a fun movie. Both Gigan and Megalon where meant to be fun movies and not taken seriously. They where made in the 70's afterall.
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Re: Godzilla vs. Megalon: How could it have been better?

Postby ScootaVaran » Wed Nov 09, 2011 10:37 am

Huan_of_Valinor wrote:i've already seen an improved version of this movie on MST3K :lol:


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Re: Godzilla vs. Megalon: How could it have been better?

Postby Living Corpse » Wed Nov 09, 2011 12:14 pm

Huan_of_Valinor wrote:i've already seen an improved version of this movie on MST3K :lol:


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Re: Godzilla vs. Megalon: How could it have been better?

Postby shinmattiathekaiju » Wed Nov 09, 2011 1:29 pm

rework both Story and characters and replace Godzilla's mannerism with a more animalistic one.

Oh and make Godzilla more prominent.
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