Deadliest Monster Millennium

[SuperSaiyan4Godzilla]

GXM Godzilla. He has one thing that GMK Godzilla doesn't have: regeneration.

If GMK Goji doesn't have regeneration, how come he was still alive at the end despite the biggest fragment left of him being his heart?

Regeneration has nothing to do with a muscle twitch.

And the only reson why pepole are voting for GMK Gawdziller is beacuase Toho sed so.

I call bullpucky and fiddlesticks. Toho is wrong about its own creation. They did not present any evidence in GMK that Godzilla was powerful, but merely, he took on weak monsters.

And GXG, Godzilla-Prime does have Regeneration. GMK Godzilla does not.

[Irys X]

Im pretty certain GMK Goji has regen. The heart was still beating, signalling that he would regenerate and return. And then theres the talk about Godzilla being killed by a secret weapon (the oxygen destoyer). How else would he come back from that besides regeneration? Regardless, i still stand by GFW Godzilla for the deadliest. He is stronger than every other monster and quite destructive as well.

[GotengoXGodzilla]

The heart was still beating, signalling that he would regenerate and return.

Just because the heart is beating, doesn't mean he'll regenerate.

And then theres the talk about Godzilla being killed by a secret weapon (the oxygen destoyer). How else would he come back from that besides regeneration?

The lost spirits of WW2 revived Godzilla. Regeneration has nothing to do with it.

Also, if GMK Godzilla did have regeneration, then he would have heal the wound on his shoulder from King Ghidorah's Spirit Bomb. GMK Godzilla has no regeneration.

Regardless, i still stand by GFW Godzilla for the deadliest. He is stronger than every other monster and quite destructive as well.

The only thing that GFW Godzilla beat were monsters that were as durable as wet toilet paper. Everything that GFW Godzilla wasn't that impressive.

[King Caesar]

To put science behind the whole "Heart=Still Alive" deal, the body/organs still may have signals from the brain before it was destroyed. Without a proper internal system, the body can't regenerate. The heart was merely used to symbolize that Godzilla is forever. That's all.

[Tyler]

he destroyed a black hole.

No, he just kind of blocked it with his ray and was pushed underground. That's why he comes out of the ground at the very end of the credits.

And as for GMK's heart... if you just think it's involuntary twitching and he won't come back...

[SuperSaiyan4Godzilla]

he destroyed a black hole.

No, he just kind of blocked it with his ray and was pushed underground. That's why he comes out of the ground at the very end of the credits.

And as for GMK's heart... if you just think it's involuntary twitching and he won't come back...

I hope Godzilla's dead. He was terrible in that movie.

[GotengoXGodzilla]

To put science behind the whole "Heart=Still Alive" deal, the body/organs still may have signals from the brain before it was destroyed. Without a proper internal system, the body can't regenerate. The heart was merely used to symbolize that Godzilla is forever. That's all.

I agree with this. Since we never see GMK Godzilla ever use his regeneration during the entire film, there is no evidence to say that GMK Godzilla even has regeneration. That's why on the TK Bio of him, it doesn't list it as one of his powers.

[Primevalgodzilla V2]

And the only reson why pepole are voting for GMK Gawdziller is beacuase Toho sed so.

I call bullpucky and fiddlesticks. Toho is wrong about its own creation. They did not present any evidence in GMK that Godzilla was powerful, but merely, he took on weak monsters.

And GXG, Godzilla-Prime does have Regeneration. GMK Godzilla does not.

I voted for GMK even though I know that there are quite a number of Godzillas stronger than him because he isn;t a neutral force. He has a singular goal on destruction and relentless vengeance, while the other Godzillas are mere animals, attacking only occasionally and not causing too much damage, nor attacking with the same ferocity. Sicne GMK godzilla has a purpose, and a terrifying one, it makes him more deadly tahn the more passive Godzillas.

[Ethan]

I hope Godzilla's dead. He was terrible in that movie.

He'll be dead if the people of Japan learn from their mistakes. Otherwise there's plenty of work of him/the souls.

[SuperSaiyan4Godzilla]

I hope Godzilla's dead. He was terrible in that movie.

He'll be dead if the people of Japan learn from their mistakes. Otherwise there's plenty of work of him/the souls.

Japan better learn. I'm tired of bland Godzilla movies.

[Ethan]

I hope Godzilla's dead. He was terrible in that movie.

He'll be dead if the people of Japan learn from their mistakes. Otherwise there's plenty of work of him/the souls.

Japan better learn. I'm tired of bland Godzilla movies.

Hopefuly their decades break from the character will allow creativity to flourish.

[Irys X]

Ill ignore the insults to GMK. You can have your own opinions. But i still stand by the fact that GMK Godzilla has regeneration, just very very slow regeneration. It took him 50 years to regenerate his body, but he eventually did it. The spirits simply influenced Godzilla's mind once his body was completed again. And if that shot at the end of the heart wasnt to show that Godzilla would be back again, then what was it?

On the subject of GFW Godzilla's feats not being that impressive... The enemies he fought (besides monster X) may not have been the most powerful ones, but the way he dispatched them was a testament to his sheer power. His agility alone is impressive, jumping around Rodan, Anguirus and King Seesar with ease. He hurled a 30,000 ton ton Kumonga over the horizon without much effort. And his beam... he destroyed an asteroid in orbit with it and shot monsters all over the place with the force of it. And as i said, he is quite as bent on destruction as GMK Godzilla, but hes not far off. He relentlessly followed the Gotengo and did not stop fighting in the movie until the very end. I can only imagine the devestation he caused before he was imprisoned in ice. So there. Hes not only ridiculously powerful, but has a vicious desire for destruction.

[TokyoVigilante]

GMK Godzilla doesn't have combat effective regeneration, but he has regeneration because organisms generally can regenerate wounds over time.

[GotengoXGodzilla]

But i still stand by the fact that GMK Godzilla has regeneration, just very very slow regeneration. It took him 50 years to regenerate his body, but he eventually did it. The spirits simply influenced Godzilla's mind once his body was completed again. And if that shot at the end of the heart wasnt to show that Godzilla would be back again, then what was it?

Well of course he has "regeneration". Every living organism has some kind of "regeneration". I'm not talking about that kind of regeneration, I'm talking about the regeneration that Godzilla is known for. The kind of regeneration that GMK Godzilla does not have.

As for the heart being shown at the end, it's saying that the character of Godzilla will live on forever, but that doesn't necessarily mean that that Godzilla will live.

The enemies he fought (besides monster X) may not have been the most powerful ones, but the way he dispatched them was a testament to his sheer power.

...What power? He got rid of Gigan, Hedorah, Ebirah and Zilla the same way: by firing his beam. A beam which has little to no explosive force behind it. It's mostly kinetic force, as in it just pushes things. To me, that's not an impressive beam. Rodan, Anguirus and King Ceasar basically knocked themselves out, with Godzilla doing next to nothing. The only "impressive" thing he did was throw Kumonga, but that doesn't make GFW Godzilla anymore powerful than any other Godzilla.

And his beam... he destroyed an asteroid in orbit with it and shot monsters all over the place with the force of it.

No, he didn't blow up the asteroid. It crashed into Tokyo. That's why there was a huge ass crater. And yeah, he shot things, but those things could have been defeated by a sneeze.

As I said, GFW Godzilla's beam sucks, because all it does is push things, and has almost no explosive force. The fact that it killed a bunch of kaiju just means that those kaiju's durability is terrible.

And as i said, he is quite as bent on destruction as GMK Godzilla, but hes not far off. He relentlessly followed the Gotengo and did not stop fighting in the movie until the very end. I can only imagine the devestation he caused before he was imprisoned in ice. So there. Hes not only ridiculously powerful, but has a vicious desire for destruction.

Who says that he wanted destruction? If anything, he wants revenge on the Gotengo for imprisoning him in the ice.

GFW Godzilla is not destructive. At all. He can't cause much destruction already, and only wants revenge on the Gotengo for most of the film.

[Irys X]

Okay. Ill continue debating the GMK regeneration topic in the thread that is now up for it. This is for GFW Godzilla.

...What power? He got rid of Gigan, Hedorah, Ebirah and Zilla the same way: by firing his beam. A beam which has little to no explosive force behind it. It's mostly kinetic force, as in it just pushes things. To me, that's not an impressive beam. Rodan, Anguirus and King Ceasar basically knocked themselves out, with Godzilla doing next to nothing. The only "impressive" thing he did was throw Kumonga, but that doesn't make GFW Godzilla anymore powerful than any other Godzilla.

The fact that his beam was able to destroy Zilla was nothing impressive, ill agree there. But did you see what that beam did to Ebirah and Hedorah? It shot both of them out of the water and then pinned them against a building, shooting them halfway across the city! And Gigan's head may be relatively weak, but come on. Any beam that can fully decapitate a monster is impressive. I will agree that there is a lot of kinetic force behind Godzilla's beam, but if you actually watch when his beam hits things that are not monsters, (the headquarters in the arctic, for example) an explosion of moderate size follows. Besides, would a beam that causes large explosions be helpful against monsters that shrug off all forms of explosive force? I think his kinetic beam was more useful than an explosive beam would have been, unless it was the be all and end all of non nuclear explosions. It pushes things yes, but hard, and far. Whats more painful, a firecracker going off on you or getting hit by a train? Godzilla took Anguirus's thunderball attack without falling over, no small feat. He only really stumbled when the attack was combined with Rodan. And he maneuvered around the other monsters so quickly that they had no choice but to knock themselves out. At the start he jumped right in between them all. Then he sent Ang flying into Rodan with his tail, then threw King Seesar into the side of the mountain after he kicked Anguirus into it. And name one other Godzilla that could throw Kumonga like that.

[Gojisan866]

GMK-Goji, or berserk Kiryu. GMK-Goji for obvious reasons. He pretty much had no remorse whatsoever. That scene where he first appears and just stares down the people running and just fries their asses? Pretty damn evil, if I do say so myself. Berserk Kiryu, for the same reason, and that it just sort of happened out of the blue. No one was expecting it to happen, so no one was ready. At least some people were expecting GMK-Goji.

[G-fan 27]

Deadliest monster to godzilla is definitly Kiryu who beat godzilla both battles they fought

[MechaJahgeezilla]

Even if you take out the fight times, GFW Godzilla walks at 300 mph, that is very fast. So if your enemy is running away, you are screwed if GFW Godzilla is trying to catch you.

[Tomzilla]

Yeah, Final Wars Godzilla (Ozaki charged) is the deadliest. Blasting Keizer Ghidorah into the stratosphere is one of the strongest showings ever. Tossing his three-headed ass all over the place with nothing but strength alone also ranks up there. Then there's tanking two multi-megaton explosions, hitting a meteor in orbit, blowing up said meteor, and steamrolling an entire kaiju roster before receiving a power upgrade? Yeah, FW Godzilla is a beast. Fear him.

As for the little FW kaiju discussion going on: most of the FW kaiju are average at best. Some of them are powerful in their own right. But make no mistake, FW Godzilla's power is godlike. So calling his beam weapon weak because 'all it does is push things' is a gross exaggeration. What it really does is hit things really, really hard while burning and/or blowing said things up. The film has been out for, like, 7 years. Plenty of time to see the beam do more than just 'push'. So why some people are still clinging to this 'PUSH111!!!1!!' drivel is beyond me.

[kaiju_wars]

Dumbass-kill Kiryu (thats what I call Rampage Kiryu, because he went on a dumbass rampage)
GMK Godzilla
Monster X/Kaizer Ghidorah. Because he almost killed Godzilla in his second form.
or Orga, because both had regenerator G-1 (going by American dub) so they fought to the stand still. Till Orga went dumbass, like I will eat you. Then Godzilla was like nope, RAAASHK! (sound of Atomic Ray from Dark Horse Comics.
so yeah.