Talkback: Godzilla 2000 Millennium (1999)

[Destroyer]

Godzilla 2000: Millennium



Ah, Godzilla 2000. I remember when I first saw it. It was Christmas, and I had caught it at near the ending. This gigantic beast was literally trying to SWALLOW Godzilla whole. That was truly something else. I have since seen the film three times, and with each, I like it more. The question that I'd really like to ask is why a lot of fans don't like this entry? Not only is it a good Godzilla movie, it also serves as the perfect starting point. If you ever wanted to introduce someone to the franchise, but worried they wouldn't like the old ones, I'd say 2000 is the perfect way to start. With its movie theater quality feel, a great soundtrack, and a high-octane final fight, I'd say it's the definite Godzilla film. It's my third favorite, and I'd recommend it as the perfect starting point to the franchise. Way too underrated.

[tymon]

I agree that it's underrated, and it's also my third favorite (with only Mothra vs. Godzilla and the original beating it out). Nostalgia aside, it's a fun film - a fantastic, modern Godzilla design, great pacing that only drags once, simple yet likeable characters, great special effects (despite the "off" shots that we all could have done without, particularly CGI problems), a cool (and new!) opponent, a familiar plot that doesn't take itself too seriously, and wonderful cinematography, lighting and direction. The Hattori/J. Peter Robinson/Ifukube combination score is downright epic the whole way through, and I would like to see Robinson compose for the upcoming Legendary film.

Note that I'm referring to the US version - I still haven't seen the Japanese version, but am very curious to after all the reading I've done on it.

This film doesn't get a whole lotta love at TK, it seems to rank as either "ok" or "bad" to most users. It has its fair share of glaring flaws, sure, but what post-1968 Godzilla film doesn't? Godzilla 2000 is a very fun, simple and exciting film to me, and has been since that good ol' summer of 00.

[Tohosaurus]

Godzilla 2000 has its weak spots, like pacing issues, an unoriginal opponent monster, and a plot that wasn't fully explored to the extent I feel some viewers wanted. When you take a step back and look at the film, it was a comparatively weak kick off to a new series when you consider the original 1954 (even if it was not intended to pave the way to a franchise) or RoG/G85. After seeing all of the G movies, I don't find it to be much more than mediocre as well. All of that negativity aside, I do like the movie, do think it's under-rated, and do disagree with some of the hate.

Edit: Wow, looks like my opinion has changed a good bit in recent months.

[tymon]

pacing issues, a plot that wasn't fully explored to the extent I feel some viewers wanted.

..And how is that different than any other Millennium (or Heisei for that matter) Godzilla film?

When you take a step back and look at the film, it was a comparatively weak kick off to a new series when you consider the original 1954 (even if it was not intended to pave the way to a franchise) or RoG/G85.

Yeah, that's probably true. I haven't seen Godzilla (1984) in its entirety yet, and haven't seen the US version in nearly a decade, so I can't judge that one from a critical standpoint in comparison to Godzilla (54) and Godzilla 2000 quite yet. I can haz bootleg?

[Tohosaurus]

pacing issues, a plot that wasn't fully explored to the extent I feel some viewers wanted.

..And how is that different than any other Millennium (or Heisei for that matter) Godzilla film?

Yeah, that's probably true. I haven't seen Godzilla (1984) in its entirety yet, and haven't seen the US version in nearly a decade, so I can't judge that one from a critical standpoint in comparison to Godzilla (54) and Godzilla 2000 quite yet. I can haz bootleg?

I don't think pacing was a problem for much of the Millennium or Heisei. Mothra, Spacegodzilla, and G2K are the only films from those two Godzilla eras that I would say had pacing issues. This is but my opinion.

As for G85, I'd wait for the new movie, which should spur some new releases. I'd say a G85 DVD and BD release are very likely.

[tymon]

^I'll pick up a legit R1 release as it becomes available, but that may not be for a long while, and I want to see it ASAP. I might be a good boy though and just pick up the legit R3 release, despite the non-anamorphic video...I got an SD 4x3 set around here somewhere...

Same with Godzilla 2000, gotta see the original version even though I'm already sure it's going to be inferior to the US cut..

[NSZ]

Personally I love it, after an entire series that took itself mega seriously (even when it shouldn't have at some points. Yeah, that's right, I'm looking at you GvM:BFE and SpaceGodzilla), it was refreshing to see an entry that acknowledged what it was and ran with it.

[Legion1979]

I know a lot of people love it, but I've never before heard anyone call it a masterpiece.

[KaneLocke]

I know a lot of people love it, but I've never before heard anyone call it a masterpiece.

That would be because it's not.

Don't get me wrong, it gets a lot more flak than it deserves. But there sure as Hell are of a lot of legitimate criticisms of it, too.

[XxComablack1937xX]

It was rushed an it showed, that's why i don't consider it a ''Masterpiece''

It was out what a year after the American Godzilla in Japan?

- The plot was Unoriginal
- Didn't really care for the Godzilla suit this time around
- The City minatures didn't look as good as it did during the Heisei series
- The CGI shot of Godzilla under-water was terrible
- Regenerator G or whatever was an interesting addition to the story, but was executed poorly
- The little girl was a annoying as ''miki'' got during the Heisei series
- Serious pacing issues, comes with most Godzilla films except a minor few though

It was entertaining in a Campy, Silly, way but to me personally it was far from Masterpiece.. Godzilla 1985 to me owns that title

[Goji]

An underrated masterpiece? Hardly.

GODZILLA 2000 is decent, bu nott much about it stands out except for some nice miniature work here and there. Just my 2 cents.

[Tyler]

I like it. I still remember being surprised by Orga's appearance at the end when I first saw it. I didn't know there was gonna be a big monster fight at the end. It was a great theatre experience as a young fan.

[RogueShuffler]

G2000 is one of my top Godzilla films. I loved the new suit, as well as the CGI enhanced charge of Godzilla's beam. It just looked like he was gearing up to do a whole lotta whoop ass, and reminded me of some move outta Dragon Ball Z, it just screamed "Dont mess with me". Regenerater-G was a cool insight into the workings of the beast, and I really enjoyed the UFO/Orga plot. I found it to be a great, original movie in a franchise that is over 20 films and running, so its difficult to get it right every time. A lot of the complaints about the movie could really apply to any of the godzilla movies really. Absolutely underrated.

[shinmattiathekaiju]

It was rushed an it showed, that's why i don't consider it a ''Masterpiece''

It was out what a year after the American Godzilla in Japan?

- The plot was Unoriginal
- Didn't really care for the Godzilla suit this time around
- The City minatures didn't look as good as it did during the Heisei series
- The CGI shot of Godzilla under-water was terrible
- Regenerator G or whatever was an interesting addition to the story, but was executed poorly

- Serious pacing issues, comes with most Godzilla films except a minor few though

Pretty much my same opinion.

[Hellspawn28]

Hardly a masterpiece. Fun film, sure but masterpiece? The only Godzilla movie that I would call a masterpiece would be Gojira '54.

[Destroyer]

By the way, I'm referring to the American version, not the Japanese one.

[Gojira21]

I enjoyed this movie, it is easily my second favorite Godzilla movie besides Gojira'54 ofcourse. Sure it was not an 'orginal' monster but i thought it was still an interesting idea overall have it asorb Godzilla's DNA

[Goji]

I really do wish I understand what so many of you see in this film. I want to like it more...but I just can't. I do think it's a better film than MEGAGUIRUS, just not quite as much fun.

[Gojira21]

Mainly matter of opinion. Some can see different things in it that others can't. Its definitely not a masterpiece, far from it, but i still find it a higly enjoyable movie.

[Goji]

Does nostalgia have anything to do with it? Just curious.

I was already 15 by the time this hit theaters, and at the time, I was less than impressed. I've come to appreciate the film over time, and definitely don't think it's bad..but I feel like a lot of younger fans tend to let their memories of seeing this in a theater color their opinion of how "good" they thing the film is. Obviously, that's okay; I do the same thing with the 70's films.

I've just noticed that older fans tend to be pretty "meh" about the film, while those who experienced it in the theater tend to have it as one of their favorites. There are (obviously) exceptions to this rule. It's just something I noticed over the years.