Could any Godzilla regenerate limbs?

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Re: Could any Godzilla regenerate limbs?

Postby Killswitch » Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:01 am

Legionmaster wrote:
Malchik wrote:I believe the acid burns off the skin on the back of hand.

It reduces the hand to bone.


His hand always looked dirty/muddy to me. The first I heard of his hand being burnt to the bone was on this forum, many years ago.
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As for regeneration of limbs? I say GMK over a long period of time. Never been a big fan of the regeneration topic. Like Godzilla isn't big, bad & special enough, we have to give him another power?
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Re: Could any Godzilla regenerate limbs?

Postby GodzillaDude » Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:37 am

Yes I think just about any Godzilla could within time.
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Re: Could any Godzilla regenerate limbs?

Postby Inferno Rodan » Tue Aug 17, 2010 7:01 am

KaneLocke wrote:Trouble is, we've never seen bones severed in Godzilla films.

Well, the bones in his hand were certainly severed when Bio's vine went through it, and I'm pretty sure some were broken when her other vine went through his shoulder and out his back, too. Granted, those wouldn't be as large as the bones in one of his limbs, but still.

Malchik wrote:The only exception is geckos. Geckos can loose a tail and a second, new tail can grow back. The tail never quite grows back to perfection as it developed as a fetus, but it does grow back. The larger and more complex an organism, the more limited its regeneration ability.

Waaaaay more lizards than just geckos can regrow tails.

Killswitch wrote:His hand always looked dirty/muddy to me. The first I heard of his hand being burnt to the bone was on this forum, many years ago.
Maybe I am wrong? If so, I blame poor special effects-lol

It's not poor SFX as much as it is poor picture quality. I never saw it either until the Sony DVD came out. It's pretty obvious with the amazing quality on that.

As for the topic, I think just about any Godzilla could, given several days/weeks/months. Surviving the initial wound wouldn't be much of an issue for most Godzillas, since the wound would probably close quickly enough to prevent death by blood loss.

Hell, in the GvsMG2 manga, Godzilla damn near gets his head blown off, and he completely recovers from it within a few seconds with the help of Rodan's energy.
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Re: Could any Godzilla regenerate limbs?

Postby Hedorah » Tue Aug 17, 2010 7:26 am

Alright I'm gonna say the same thing as I did in the AM vs. SG topic. Depending on the severity of the wound, Godzillas googlefoshizzle would either grow a stump or he would die from blood loss in the end.
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Re: Could any Godzilla regenerate limbs?

Postby Tyler » Tue Aug 17, 2010 9:34 am

He can heal wounds but something like that would be silly. Maybe if the new arm took a while to grow back and was covered in scar tissue. Like after all that time it wasn't perfect, but could still be used.
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Re: Could any Godzilla regenerate limbs?

Postby Hedorah » Tue Aug 17, 2010 9:45 am

I'm just waiting for certain people to come in and cause a huge arguement
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Re: Could any Godzilla regenerate limbs?

Postby miguelnuva » Tue Aug 17, 2010 10:43 am

G2k Godzilla can
GxM Godzilla can
Heisei Godzilla can
Showa maybe and final wars maybe
GMK maybe with more souls
Kiryu saga and 54 godzilla no.

we've seen destroyer slice godzilla's hand off and before it could come off the wound was healed so I don't know if a limb can even be served.
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Re: Could any Godzilla regenerate limbs?

Postby Zillaowner » Tue Aug 17, 2010 1:51 pm

^^^^^ we never seen Godzilla who took a blast like that to the chest and was drilled in the inside.
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Re: Could any Godzilla regenerate limbs?

Postby Kuroneko-sama » Tue Aug 17, 2010 2:33 pm

The 1954 Godzilla could not. I personally don't think its regeneration was that good, so having a limb severed would have meant permanent damage.

The Showa Godzilla might be able to, but I have my doubts about that as well. We've seen the kind of damage Showa Godzilla took, but it's still debatable. Thinking back on the effect Hedorah's body fluids had on Godzilla, Godzilla's skin was totally gone, and all that was left was a skeletal hand, and Godzilla later loses an eye in a similar manner. Now, later on, Godzilla's regenerated these affected areas and everything is pretty much back to normal. Obviously the skin tissue has successfully regenerated, and it appears that Showa Godzilla can repair nerves, blood vessels, et cetera. Now, the eye is what intrigues me. I'm not sure if other animals/reptiles/amphibians can regenerate an eye, but it appears Showa Godzilla can. This may be an indication that this incarnation is capable of regenerating a limb, but I can't say that with any certainty. Godzilla has an eye again, but we have no way of knowing if its vision is fully restored or if there is any lingering damage. If at all possible, Showa Godzilla could possibly, over a certain period of time, regenerate a limb, but I have to question have successful that regeneration would be.

For Heisei Godzilla, I'm inclined to believe that it may be possible, considering the sort of damge it takes on. Biollante's vines shooting through Godzilla hand and shoulder most definitely shattered bones, but Godzilla shrugs it off and keeps on fighting. It has rapid regeneration, and apparently much more evolved from its Showa counterpart. The only doubt I have comes from when Mechagodzilla succeeded in rupturing Godzilla's "second brain", only now we know that area would be a bundle of nerves and not a brain. At any rate, going by the "second brain" theory, Heisei Godzilla apparently has limits to its regenerative abilities. In other words, it cannot regenerate any organ that cannot be regerated. Nerves are complex, but, for the most part, they can regerate and heal, unless there's been massive burn damage or something. Brain cells and liver cells, however, do not repair themselves. Godzilla's inability to heal its "second brain" is mostly likely because of this. If Godzilla's liver were to rupture, chances are that it could not repair that, either. If not for Rodan's intervention, Godzilla would have remained paralyzed. Even if it survived through Mechagodzilla's arsenal (which would mostly likely happen, at least for a time), Godzilla certainly wasn't going anywhere. Eventually, Godzilla would have most likely died. So, while Heisei Godzilla can regerate virtually anywhere on its body, chances are that organs that do not naturally regenerate would be just as vulnerable to the monster. What does that mean for limb regeneration? Owing to the way Heisei Godzilla regenerated after taking attacks like what Biollante dished out, chances are that it may be possible. However, there is still the question of how good that regenerated limb would be.

Now, for the Millennium Godzillas, this is going to be a bit tricky:

G2K Godzilla: In the movie, Shinoda and Miyasaka seem to hint at the possibility that Godzilla's regeneration is probably that great, but I really have my reserves about that. From what I observed in the film, G2K Godzilla can regenerate skin tissue easily, but I somehow doubt that a limb could be regenerate and, if it could, it would take a much longer time to do that.

GxM Godzilla: It may be possible, but I deem it highly unlikely. This Godzilla incarnation didn't get dealt that much in the way of severe damage, save for Megaguirus's stinger, so I doubt it could regenerate a limb.

GMK Godzilla: Here, I would have to agree with the majority that it's likely to be possible in this instance, owing to spiritual connections of this incarnation. Considering the fact that Godzilla's dismembered heart is beating strongly at the end of the film, I can see this one regerating a limb, albeit most likely covered in loads of scar tissue, after a long period of time.

Kiryu Godzilla: To be honest, I have my doubts about this incarnation as well. After GxMG, Godzilla returns with a scar on its chest from the AZC, which indicates to me that it has limited or weak regenerative properties. Additionally, it didn't seem as though Godzilla was faring well at the end of TSOS, and the wound it received was pretty bad, though something that Heisei Godzilla probably would have recovered from rather well. So, for this incarnation at least, I doubt very much it could regenerate a limb properly, if at all.

GFW Godzilla: Owing to the amount of fights Godzilla got into, a person would think that this Godzilla would be okay but, once again, I have my doubts. Godzilla was portrayed as a far more powerful being in GFW, and therefore received what we could say is smaller amounts of damage. GFW Godzilla has speed, power, and whatnot on its side, but it didn't get much damage save for what Gigan and Monster X and later Kaiser Ghidorah dealt it. GFW Godzilla does have some regeneration, but I don't think it could regenerate a limb.
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Re: Could any Godzilla regenerate limbs?

Postby Living Corpse » Tue Aug 17, 2010 2:38 pm

In a few days or weeks? Yeah, maybe.

In the heat of battle? No.
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Re: Could any Godzilla regenerate limbs?

Postby Arbok » Tue Aug 17, 2010 7:01 pm

Killswitch wrote:His hand always looked dirty/muddy to me. The first I heard of his hand being burnt to the bone was on this forum, many years ago.
Maybe I am wrong? If so, I blame poor special effects-lol


It's been burned down to the bone, no doubt about that:

http://www.tohokingdom.com/dvd/images/g ... sh_tr6.htm

Still, its a man in a suit, meaning that the bone hand still has to fit a human hand inside... so the bone hand is fatter than it should have been.

Killswitch wrote:As for regeneration of limbs? I say GMK over a long period of time.


I concur.

The Heisei one might be able to do it too based on his feats in Biollante. However, clearly there are limits to his regeneration all the same, since destroying his spinal brain was a method of killing him. Growing back small chunks of lost tissue is one thing. Growing back bone in a "relatively small piece" where it was lost is one thing. Growing back a perfectly functioning hand if one is chopped off with no reference for that growth is another. So it might regenerate, but could form into a long stump or something equally odd.
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Re: Could any Godzilla regenerate limbs?

Postby Ethan » Tue Aug 17, 2010 7:43 pm

I think he can. The concept of regenerating an entire limb from scratch isn't any more improvable than his very existence. Being a fictional character, Godzilla can pretty much do whatever the plot of a film requieres him to do, with the regeneration of a limb being no exception. As it has been mentioned, he has never recieved enough damage to warrant such type of regeneration so wheter a specific incarnation of the character can do it or not is purely subjective.

I do believe his survival to volcanic temperatures wasn't brought up before Godzilla 1985 or Godzilla vs. Mothra, so the various "Could Godzilla survive this" speculations have no differences.
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Re: Could any Godzilla regenerate limbs?

Postby Hedorah » Tue Aug 17, 2010 7:47 pm

But that Godzilla in Godzilla 1985 and Godzilla vs. Mothra COULD survive in a volcano....
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Re: Could any Godzilla regenerate limbs?

Postby Ethan » Tue Aug 17, 2010 7:51 pm

Hedorah wrote:But that Godzilla in Godzilla 1985 and Godzilla vs. Mothra COULD survive in a volcano....

Never stated otherwise.
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Re: Could any Godzilla regenerate limbs?

Postby Hedorah » Tue Aug 17, 2010 8:05 pm

Ethan wrote:
Hedorah wrote:But that Godzilla in Godzilla 1985 and Godzilla vs. Mothra COULD survive in a volcano....

Never stated otherwise.


I think what you're saying is that we can't say what Godzilla could survive until we've seen it happen, yes?
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Re: Could any Godzilla regenerate limbs?

Postby Malchik » Tue Aug 17, 2010 8:18 pm

Hedorah wrote:But that Godzilla in Godzilla 1985 and Godzilla vs. Mothra COULD survive in a volcano....

I always pass this off as ability natural to his creation. Atomic fission (Godzilla’s digestion) is immensely hotter then magma. I think it was OP that mentioned Godzilla continuingly healing as he cooked in magma.

I don't pass the option of Godzilla re-growing limbs, but we never seen him injured beyond flesh damage. Even an impaling through the hand can heal naturally, but growing a new independent bone and tendons is beyond natural biology. But, Godzilla could also shit strawberry ice cream as the writer sees fit.
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Re: Could any Godzilla regenerate limbs?

Postby SuperSaiyan4Godzilla » Tue Aug 17, 2010 8:22 pm

Malchik wrote:
Hedorah wrote:But that Godzilla in Godzilla 1985 and Godzilla vs. Mothra COULD survive in a volcano....

I always pass this off as ability natural to his creation. Atomic fission (Godzilla’s digestion) is immensely hotter then magma. I think it was OP that mentioned Godzilla continuingly healing as he cooked in magma.

I don't pass the option of Godzilla re-growing limbs, but we never seen him injured beyond flesh damage. Even an impaling through the hand can heal naturally, but growing a new independent bone and tendons is beyond natural biology. But, Godzilla could also shit strawberry ice cream as the writer sees fit.


Eh, one thing, though...

Our core body temp is usually around 98.6 degress farenheit. Yes,out surface temp is lower than that, I believe. Ever wonder why water at, around, 100 makes us uncomfortable after awhile?

I'd imagine that, even with Godzilla's core temp, being fission, that magma would still feel uncomfortable to him.
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