Monster Discussion #49: MechaGodzilla (Heisei)

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Re: Monster Discussion #49: MechaGodzilla (Heisei)

Postby TokyoVigilante » Thu Jul 14, 2011 2:48 pm

There's a cut scene from Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla of Mechagodzilla battling King Ghidorah, Godzilla, and Mothra in a combat simulation. It was really cool and really weird looking and it's a shame they didn't keep it in.
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Re: Monster Discussion #49: MechaGodzilla (Heisei)

Postby Biollante » Thu Jul 14, 2011 2:51 pm

TokyoVigilante wrote:There's a cut scene from Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla of Mechagodzilla battling King Ghidorah, Godzilla, and Mothra in a combat simulation. It was really cool and really weird looking and it's a shame they didn't keep it in.

Link to a video of it?
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Re: Monster Discussion #49: MechaGodzilla (Heisei)

Postby Living Corpse » Thu Jul 14, 2011 2:56 pm

Biollante wrote:
TokyoVigilante wrote:There's a cut scene from Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla of Mechagodzilla battling King Ghidorah, Godzilla, and Mothra in a combat simulation. It was really cool and really weird looking and it's a shame they didn't keep it in.

Link to a video of it?


Really? I'm with Bio, link please. Would have been nice if they kept that in.
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Re: Monster Discussion #49: MechaGodzilla (Heisei)

Postby NSZ » Thu Jul 14, 2011 3:01 pm

TokyoVigilante wrote:There's a cut scene from Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla of Mechagodzilla battling King Ghidorah, Godzilla, and Mothra in a combat simulation. It was really cool and really weird looking and it's a shame they didn't keep it in.


It figures. The one shred of competency displayed in the Heisei continuity and it ends up being cut. Another question, how the hell were they able to tell if Garuda would have been ineffectual against Godzilla? It would have been nice to see the two go mano-eh-mano instead of basically 'Eh, it was intended to fight Godzilla, but we chickened out last minute, pulled funding just as it was finished being built, and decided to place our bets on rusting technology. Smartest decision we've made yet *nods like a boss*. Oh yeah, techie, you're being placed on the front line.' I mean WTF?!

And link, please.
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Re: Monster Discussion #49: MechaGodzilla (Heisei)

Postby JVM » Thu Jul 14, 2011 3:04 pm

TokyoVigilante wrote:We don't know the extent to which Futurian technology had on the global economy. Infact, it's probably what made Japan into a economic superpower capable of buying chunks of South America to begin with. The presence of Futurian technology also creates a nice little cover story for "Why does everyone stay in Japan with yearly visits from a malevolent atomic powered death machine?" and "How can they rebuild so quickly?" It's probably my favorite part of the Heisei canon.

Mechagodzilla would have been aided by having a more rickety and less "clean" design. It looks even more high-tech the Mecha-King Ghidorah, which is just backwards.

This is a good point.

And really, it's not like MG's the biggest stretch of imagination when it comes to Japan's military forces in the Godzilla films. As mentioned, rebuilding the same town yearly is pretty expensive in itself, even ignoring everything else - especially looking back at the Showa timeline, where it took beatings in more than twenty films.

Also I too would love to see such a deleted scene
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Re: Monster Discussion #49: MechaGodzilla (Heisei)

Postby TokyoVigilante » Thu Jul 14, 2011 3:06 pm

http://www.veoh.com/watch/v17866738tyCY5Xdk

So I half lied. It's not Mechagodzilla, just Garuda. And there's no King Ghidorah, it's Rodan.

Also the blonde haired chick says "Boogy" instead of "Bogey". I laughed.
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Re: Monster Discussion #49: MechaGodzilla (Heisei)

Postby NSZ » Thu Jul 14, 2011 3:12 pm

TokyoVigilante wrote:http://www.veoh.com/watch/v17866738tyCY5Xdk

So I half lied. It's not Mechagodzilla, just Garuda. And there's no King Ghidorah, it's Rodan.

Also the blonde haired chick says "Boogy" instead of "Bogey". I laughed.


:| If you're talking about when Godzilla, Mothra, and Rodan are all on screen together, that's not GvsMGII footage. That's Monster Planet of Godzilla footage, and that flying vehicle is Earth.
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Re: Monster Discussion #49: MechaGodzilla (Heisei)

Postby TokyoVigilante » Thu Jul 14, 2011 3:36 pm

Really? Yikes! Boy is my face red.
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Re: Monster Discussion #49: MechaGodzilla (Heisei)

Postby Living Corpse » Thu Jul 14, 2011 3:45 pm

TokyoVigilante wrote:Really? Yikes! Boy is my face red.


No need to be, you're only human like the rest of us. Cept for NSZ, he's the slender man. XD
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Re: Monster Discussion #49: MechaGodzilla (Heisei)

Postby Primevalgodzilla V2 » Sat Jul 16, 2011 10:17 pm

I think Heisei MG is awesome. He's one of the only cold, emotionless killing machines in the G-franchise, and his lack of melee skill serves to show that he's not unstoppable and oevrpowered, and it does prove to be his downfall various times. I like a monster with pros and cons that are actually reflected and well-identified in the movie itself. His design is suitably cold and neutral too, with a simplistic metal sheen, no overly pointed edges, enhancing his 'personality' (or lack thereof).
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Re: Monster Discussion #49: MechaGodzilla (Heisei)

Postby Lord Gappa » Sun Jul 17, 2011 5:53 am

Heisei Mechagodzilla is just really cool. He lacks the "character" thing Kiryu had going on, and he may not be the same level of badass as Showa MechaG, but he's arguably the most powerful Mechagodzilla incarnation thus far. His head, which some have complained has some sort of duck-face going on, actually looks IMO appropiate and kind of looks like Godzilla's head. In fact, most of his body is just Heisei Godzilla's covered in tin foil, but seeing how it IS a doppleganger of Goji, it's actualy appropiate. The only complaint i have is the tail, which looks just like Barney's except in metal form. Overall, Heisei Mechagodzilla is a unique powerhouse amongst powerhouses in the Heisei Era.
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Re: Monster Discussion #49: MechaGodzilla (Heisei)

Postby Godzilla 2000 » Mon Jul 18, 2011 12:08 pm

This Mechagodzilla is probably my #1 favorite MG overall. Not just because of the movie he was in, but rather, what game he was in.

See, my first real introduction to Godzilla was the Atari game, GDAMM. And as you should know, MechaG '93 was the final boss, and a tough one at that. I remember being so frustrated that I couldnt beat him, but that was part of his appeal; he kicked ass and looked good doing it! Who could forget the infamous fist pound in his intro? You just knew he was a boss.

And it was a while before I ever saw the Kiryu movies, or the Showa MG ones, so for the longest time, he was the one and only Mechagodzilla to me.

And I do enjoy his movie appearance too. I would've liked more close combat, but hey, he's a tough foe and hes got a sweet design. I like his cold, emotionless face, and if I ever wanna change how he acts and fights, I have the video games and my Bandai figure to use in movies, lol.

So yeah, I love MechaG '93.
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Re: Monster Discussion #49: MechaGodzilla (Heisei)

Postby ZillaEra » Mon Jul 18, 2011 12:20 pm

Lord Gappa wrote:Heisei Mechagodzilla is just really cool. He lacks the "character" thing Kiryu had going on, and he may not be the same level of badass as Showa MechaG, but he's arguably the most powerful Mechagodzilla incarnation thus far. His head, which some have complained has some sort of duck-face going on, actually looks IMO appropiate and kind of looks like Godzilla's head. In fact, most of his body is just Heisei Godzilla's covered in tin foil, but seeing how it IS a doppleganger of Goji, it's actualy appropiate. The only complaint i have is the tail, which looks just like Barney's except in metal form. Overall, Heisei Mechagodzilla is a unique powerhouse amongst powerhouses in the Heisei Era.

This. Pretty much my opinion on him.
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Re: Monster Discussion #49: MechaGodzilla (Heisei)

Postby Gojira-Fan » Mon Jul 18, 2011 2:26 pm

This is probably my least favorite Mechagodzilla. Doesn't look as cool as Kiryu or the Showa version, and it lacks personality (which I guess is appropriate for the context of the film).

Also, he just has that dopey look on his face...
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Re: Monster Discussion #49: MechaGodzilla (Heisei)

Postby Primevalgodzilla V2 » Tue Jul 19, 2011 4:32 am

Many of the most awesome villain kaiju have a 'dopey look' on them. :P
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Re: Monster Discussion #49: MechaGodzilla (Heisei)

Postby Motorheadbanger » Fri Jul 29, 2011 7:35 pm

I like the machine approach on the 93 MG. He's just cold and unfeeling like a killing machine. He's kind of like the terminator without the accent (or an embarrassing career in politics). I like the personality that Kiryu and especially 74/75, but the 93's character fits the film.
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Re: Monster Discussion #49: MechaGodzilla (Heisei)

Postby Godzilla1703 » Fri Jul 29, 2011 7:37 pm

i loved this MechaGodzilla
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Re: Monster Discussion #49: MechaGodzilla (Heisei)

Postby Cinematic Kaiju » Sat Jul 30, 2011 4:30 pm

My least favorite MechaGodzilla. Good movie! But I have to give Godzilla's mechanical double SOME credit.. unlike the Showa and Millennium MechaGodzilla's, this one ACTUALLY got the job done in crippling and killing Godzilla (til Rodan resurrected him). Other than that, I think he's boring and has no personality and the design is ugly. Showa MechaGodzilla all the way :)
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Re: Monster Discussion #49: MechaGodzilla (Heisei)

Postby Cimmerian Dragon » Sat Jul 30, 2011 6:19 pm

My favorite description for the Heisei MechaGodzilla is a gigantic, chrome pear. A pin-head, a bloated gut, and some serious child-bearing hips. It looks too heavy to be vehicle, or to possess any agility in battle. On top of that, it's such a dramatically bland design.

I don't hate it or anything, but it's definitely in a distant third place as far as MGs go.
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Re: Monster Discussion #49: MechaGodzilla (Heisei)

Postby Goji » Mon Aug 01, 2011 12:08 pm

This is my least favorite Toho mech. His design is just so incredibly boring, and unappealing. I recalling someone on these boards coining the "MechaDuckzilla" name a while back, and I think it's actually pretty fitting. He may be more powerful than Kiryu, but that means nothing to me. Kiryu was a refreshing take on Mechagodzilla, and was a huge improvement over this walking tank.
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