GODZILLA VS. BIOLLANTE DVD/Blu-ray from Echo Bridge

[Crocodile]

Bitching and whining can be amusing. I do it from time to time myself. You might find yourself less abrasive if you did it more.

For example, I could bitch about how we DON'T have Biollante on DVD yet. Yes, it's irritating. And I feel better by complaining about it.

Yes it can be therapuetic, even good for yourself.

But please don't do it here, if you must bitch do it elsewhere, to yourself anywhere but here.
No one wants to hear (or read it as the case may be) and it is harmful to topics as it steers them to darker places. Do it on your own time, and where the rest of us don't have to read it. Then we can all be friends, and have many fun adventures together

[omgitsgodzilla]

Regarding fans vs fanboys...

Yeah... Al Franken used an analogy describing how political parties love America that I think can apply to fans' and fanboys' love for what they're interested in pretty well. Fanboys love their interests like a four-year-old loves her mom: Everything mommy does is wonderful and anyone who criticizes mommy is bad. Fans love their interests like the mom loves the four-year-old: What's good about the kid is good, and what's bad about the kid should be improved and ultimately doesn't really outweigh the good.

[kpa]

That's a great analogy, omgitsgodzilla.

In reguards to the first paragraph, I think I might have a different understanding of the phrase "no right" than others. When I hear that phrase used, I think "no one has the right to _____ no matter what, thus even if someone wants to give someone something - an object or information - they are not allowed to". I see that is not truly the case seeing that Keith is still saying that filmmakers do have a choice. I see how my post may have sounded "self-defeating".

You and Donny covered a lot of the same stuff so I'll just reply once.

Evan, what you just stated is my point. I wrote "Fans may want to know specifics, but they don't have a right to know about private business dealings" so I don't know how much clearer I can make it that I'm specifically referring to fans. Not everyone, not no one, not filmmakers, not studios. Just fans. I have no idea why you read that and think I was saying anything different... a filmmakers having no rights to materials he owns doesn't even make any sense.

If I can answer a question I'm always happy to do so. But on the other side you have to take in the answer as it was actually written and not assume a bunch of other stuff that was never addressed. I think I write clearly (a former newsparer editor once told me I write "clean copy") but if something confuses you just ask me. That's always preferred to seeing a reply that's nowhere near what I really wrote.

However, though Mike may be trying to help, from what I feel from his posts, I sense nothing but malcontent (though it might just be me).

Well, it is all about approach.

Now, the Host video thing, not only is that video gone and it has been almost 3 years. Some more time and a real-life encounter may be in order for a second impression.

I saw your HOST video one time when it was new and I still remember it, so that's why I think it's important to give some thought to what you choose to put out to the public before you do it. I have not watched your other videos except for the recent one about Echo Bridge and that didn't go so well to me, either. I think everyone is entitled to their opinion-- good, bad, or indifferent-- but what I respect is an informed opinion. I just think people should know what they're talking about before they form an opinion and share it. So complaining about a BIOLLANTE DVD before a single detail is known is, to me, utterly useless. Echo Bridge's track record (which you addressed) does carry weight (maybe even a lot) but it's still just one piece of the puzzle. Echo Bridge has been relying on materials provided by Miramax for their DVDs, but Miramax says they don't have a master for BIOLLANTE so Echo Bridge is now dealing directly with Toho for new elements. That potentially changes things for this title, and I think it's much too early to be overly positive or negative at this point.

[Legion1979]

The thing Evan needs to understand (and I apologize if this sounds like an attack) is that I've never seen another Godzilla fan make as an extreme first impression as Evan did when he first showed up at Club Tokyo in 2009. Between the "Operation Gojira" plan, the threads complaining about his unfair treatment at school for being a Godzilla fan ("sports are useless"), the Youtube videos calling out other people from the forum and the alt accounts meant to make fun of himself, Evan left an extremely negative first impression on that particular community that I don't can ever be changed.

What I think Evan needs to do (and I've been telling him this for a couple of years now) is to try hard to stop being this uber fan who thinks too hard about everything and types almost stream-of-consciousness posts and blog entries full of misspelling and confusing ramblings. I like his enthusiasm but it ALWAYS gets the best of him.

[g2kmaster]

In regards to Keith's post, I see.

As for Mike's post, I don't care too much that he writes like I am not here, but that's fine.

The thing Evan needs to understand (and I apologize if this sounds like an attack) is that I've never seen another Godzilla fan make as an extreme first impression as Evan did when he first showed up at Club Tokyo in 2009. Between the "Operation Gojira" plan, the threads complaining about his unfair treatment at school for being a Godzilla fan ("sports are useless"), the Youtube videos calling out other people from the forum and the alt accounts meant to make fun of himself, Evan left an extremely negative first impression on that particular community that I don't can ever be changed.

Well, I do take responsibility for those actions, though I do have some explainations for those said actions. I won't say anything though because it wouldn't do much good. I have come some way since all of that, that I will say, being it has been two years since all of that.

What I think Evan needs to do (and I've been telling him this for a couple of years now) is to try hard to stop being this uber fan who thinks too hard about everything and types almost stream-of-consciousness posts and blog entries full of misspelling and confusing ramblings. I like his enthusiasm but it ALWAYS gets the best of him.

The stream-of-consciousness posts I can defiantly work on. The blog (which has improved, I do not know if you have read any of it recently) is not something I can give up become someone else relies on that blog. To stop it now would not be a good thing.

[Godzilla 2000]

I like his enthusiasm but it ALWAYS gets the best of him.

Agreed 100%.

Believe me when I say I enjoy seeing my fellow fans getting riled up or excited over Godzilla stuff, or even just being enthusiastic about the series as a whole, because it makes ME feel enthusiastic and puts ME in a good mood, to know I'm not the only one who loves this stuff.

But when fans take it to that extra level, to where their enthusiasm clouds their judgement, it becomes very offputting. A lot of people, not just Evan, need to work on that.

The stream-of-consciousness posts I can defiantly work on. The blog (which has improved, I do not know if you have read any of it recently) is not something I can give up become someone else relies on that blog. To stop it now would not be a good thing.

Blogs by their very nature are not important, so....yeah. Just throwing that out there.

Besides, one day, you will have to give up that blog. You cant hold on to it forever.

[g2kmaster]

Well, until that one day comes, the blog is staying up.

[Legion1979]

Well, until that one day comes, the blog is staying up.

This is your selective reading habit coming up again.

Who the hell said you'd have to give up your blog?

[g2kmaster]

I got a negative subtext from Frank's talk about my blog. From what it seems, I mistook the comment.

[Legion1979]

I got a negative subtext from Frank's talk about my blog.

You were talking about your blog before Frank even posted in this thread. Neither me or Keith said anything about stopping your blog.

READ

[g2kmaster]

I know you and Keith didn't say anything of the such. But then again, I wasn't replying to you. I was replying to Frank. But fine, he didn't say anything of the sort. I mistook his comment.

[Legion1979]

I know you and Keith didn't say anything of the such. But then again, I wasn't replying to you. I was replying to Frank. But fine, he didn't say anything of the sort. I mistook his comment.

Frank wasn't even telling you what to do, Evan. He was telling you an inevitability.

[g2kmaster]

True, true. I could question why he did but I won't go down that path.

[Legion1979]

True, true. I could question why he did but I won't go down that path.

All he was saying is that nothing lasts forever.

[g2kmaster]

Just that simple. Ok.

[Legion1979]

Just that simple. Ok.

I don't know how you could take it any other way.

[Godzilla 2000]

True, true. I could question why he did but I won't go down that path.

All he was saying is that nothing lasts forever.

Exactly.

I dont wanna get cynical here, but take collecting Godzilla stuff, for instance. We cant keep our collections while we're dead. So one day we will have get rid of all that stuff. When I'm an old man, on my last legs, I'd like to sell my collection to help pay for the expenses my death would incur (funeral costs, debts, house payments, whatever) and whats left can go to my family. Of course I'll probably give some things to my grand kids, and maybe donate some to charity, but the majority of that collection is just gonna get sold. Thats the reality of it. But I'm perfectly fine with that, because I'll always be a Godzilla fan, with or without my collection, and I'll treasure it in the meantime. Besides, I'll have probably grown out of collecting Godzilla figures by then. You dont need shelves filled with Bandai figures and stacks of DVDs to be a Godzilla fan. =)

Now, we've gotten ridiculously off-topic here, so lets just end it here, huh?

[BountyHunter]

In a perfect world I could walk up to Kate Beckinsale and say "open up!" only to proceed into naughty time. It's not going to happen, but I can dream can't I?

Seriously? In your perfect world you tell women to "Open up?"

LOL!

[Gawdziller]

In a perfect world I could walk up to Kate Beckinsale and say "open up!" only to proceed into naughty time. It's not going to happen, but I can dream can't I?

Seriously? In your perfect world you tell women to "Open up?"

LOL!

I didn't say it was realistic. What me and Kate do in my psychotic mind is pure magic.

[Gojira-Fan]

I wrote a letter and plan to print it off and send it to Echo Bridge.

I would like the other members to judge my letter before I send it.

Here it is:

Dear Echo Bridge,
I am aware that Echo Bridge has acquired the rights to release select Miramax titles on home video. I am writing because of one of these titles in particular, Godzilla vs. Biollante, is a title I am truly hoping gets released on DVD.

Godzilla vs. Biollante is a Japanese science-fiction film; part of the famous Godzilla-series of films. Miramax originally released this film on VHS in 1992. Needless to say, the VHS is out-of-print. Thus, it can be difficult to find.

I would like to request what I want from this DVD; if it ever to be released.
There is an “international” version of Godzilla vs. Biollante, and this was the film that was released on VHS in 1992. The original Japanese version had many instances of English-spoken dialogue, and thus the Japanese version had Japanese subtitles for the Japanese movie-going public. These Japanese subtitles were removed from the “international” version, because this version was to be released in English language markets. As well, the film was dubbed into English.

What I would really want for this release is the “international” print to be utilized. For the audio I would like the English dub to be used as well as the Japanese audio to be an option on the DVD.

I would like there to be English-language subtitles that correspond to the Japanese language audio. This is important because Toho does provide English subtitles for English language film releases of their Japanese-language films. However, these subtitles are very “hit and miss” in terms of quality. Sometimes they are accurate, other times the subtitles are word-for-word transcripts of the English dub. This can be detrimental because dubbing has to compromise the original meaning of the foreign script to better accommodate lip-synch.

If Echo Bridge would be willing to hire a translator to translate the Japanese language audio for English subtitles, I would be a very satisfied customer.

I know that some of my request may seem unreasonable and may take some time to accomplish. However, Godzilla vs. Biollante is a highly-acclaimed film among fans of the Godzilla films, and due to the VHS being out-of-print and the movie never getting an official DVD release it is even more sought after, and fans have wanted a DVD for this film for a very long time. If Echo Bridge had to make the DVD more expensive to accommodate my requests, than I would gladly pay more; and I am sure other Godzilla fans would as well. If Echo Bridge handled this film with care and respect, and truly made a great DVD, I would have high hopes for the company’s future, and gladly buy more of their products if they continued to have a good standard of quality.