What Gets On Your Nerves 2, The Thread Without a Witty Subtitle!

[Fish Cakes]

Just made use of the blocking feature on this site for the first time. Supporting forced pregnancy is fucking disgusting.

[BlankAccount]

Me: Watched the Cinema Snob review a movie where a guy kidnaps 3 women who were gonna have an abortion and holds them captive for months till they give birth.

Mom: Well that isn't so bad. I can understand the reason.

I'm not posting this here cause it got on my nerves. Her reaction gave me the creeps, and I can't find the what scared the skreeonk out of you topic.

Well... messed up though his method may have been, the guy ultimately saved three lives. He did a bad thing for a good reason, you know? I lean toward the pro-choice side of the debate and I can't even fault this too much.

That's like one step away from raping women and holding them captive till they give birth to babies conceived by rape.

[NSZ]

I didn't think it was possible for pro-lifers to make themselves come off as extremely creepy and untrustworthy. Lo and behold, I'm proven wrong.

[eabaker]

I didn't think it was possible for pro-lifers to make themselves come off as extremely creepy and untrustworthy. Lo and behold, I'm proven wrong.

A lot of pro-lifers come off as extremely creepy and untrustworthy.

[LSD Jellyfish]

Holy shit.

[_JNavs_]

I think if a woman wants to get an abortion due to unfortunate circumstances she should be free to.

However I also think the man has a say in the matter since its his kid/creation as well. (Assuming it's not one of those creepy rape/forced cases)

[M.U.T.O.]

I think if a woman wants to get an abortion due to unfortunate circumstances she should be free to.

However I also think the man has a say in the matter since its his kid/creation as well. (Assuming he wants em)

"Assuming the man is present, or is decidedly not a rapist", I take it, were the words left out there.

[_JNavs_]

I think if a woman wants to get an abortion due to unfortunate circumstances she should be free to.

However I also think the man has a say in the matter since its his kid/creation as well. (Assuming he wants em)

Assuming the man is present, or is decidedly not a rapist, of course.

Yeah definitely, re-edited my post.

As long as the dude isn't some rapist or something.

[Spirit Ghidorah 2010]

I didn't think it was possible for pro-lifers to make themselves come off as extremely creepy and untrustworthy.

I did.

[Gigantis]

I think if a woman wants to get an abortion due to unfortunate circumstances she should be free to.

However I also think the man has a say in the matter since its his kid/creation as well. (Assuming it's not one of those creepy rape/forced cases)

This is true,both parents should have a say in the matter in something like this (unless like you said it was rape),but by kidnapping them? That's still pretty messed up.

[_JNavs_]

I think if a woman wants to get an abortion due to unfortunate circumstances she should be free to.

However I also think the man has a say in the matter since its his kid/creation as well. (Assuming it's not one of those creepy rape/forced cases)

This is true,both parents should have a say in the matter in something like this (unless like you said it was rape),but by kidnapping them? That's still pretty messed up.

Definitely, both parents should decide.

The kidnap part is definitely a crime though lol, not touching that one.

[LSD Jellyfish]

I think if a woman wants to get an abortion due to unfortunate circumstances she should be free to.

However I also think the man has a say in the matter since its his kid/creation as well. (Assuming it's not one of those creepy rape/forced cases)

This is true,both parents should have a say in the matter in something like this (unless like you said it was rape),but by kidnapping them? That's still pretty messed up.

Definitely, both parents should decide.

But the woman is the one whose body is effected and giving birth.

I don't get why anyone in this hypothetical scenario would even want to have a child with a woman that clearly doesn't want to have a baby. Like if I ever have a child, of course it would be with someone that feels the same and wants to be a parent. It's crazy that this is an actual argument.

[_JNavs_]

Meh, not really an argument, just a discussion.

It's the womans body yes. But it's the man who gets her pregnant, therefore he deserves some say in the matter. (Once again not condoning the forced stuff, just regular everyday couples). It's also their responsibility before hand to decide how they're going to approach that next step. If they use protection, then neither of them want kids, but if they mess around without it? They end up playing Russian Roulette and are forced into these kinds of discussions.

[Gigantis]

This is true,both parents should have a say in the matter in something like this (unless like you said it was rape),but by kidnapping them? That's still pretty messed up.

Definitely, both parents should decide.

But the woman is the one whose body is effected and giving birth.

I don't get why anyone in this hypothetical scenario would even want to have a child with a woman that clearly doesn't want to have a baby. Like if I ever have a child, of course it would be with someone that feels the same and wants to be a parent. It's crazy that this is an actual argument.

I..don't remember this part coming up. Who wants to have a child with a woman who doesn't want any? I don't!

[LSD Jellyfish]

Definitely, both parents should decide.

But the woman is the one whose body is effected and giving birth.

I don't get why anyone in this hypothetical scenario would even want to have a child with a woman that clearly doesn't want to have a baby. Like if I ever have a child, of course it would be with someone that feels the same and wants to be a parent. It's crazy that this is an actual argument.

I..don't remember this part coming up. Who wants to have a child with a woman who doesn't want any? I don't!

The point I'm trying to make, is that many people make anti-abortion arguments based on the framework of what the guy wants in that scenario. I'm pointing out that the majority of people, including general people who are anti-abortion, would agree with my sentiment. In other words, people are arguing hypothetically for a scenario that rarely does not exist, and is still insanely creepy and wrong should it.

If people have moral obligations against abortions, and think it's life, that's fine, for themselves, and I respect that reasoning. However, we also don't apply a blanket statement and make laws based on what some people may believe.

[JAGzilla]

Am I the one Fish Cakes blocked? Just like that, no debate, zero to sixty in no time flat? Over a fictional scenario? I could just as easily scream that slaughtering babies is skreeonking disgusting and block her.

And Living Corpse... back up and read what you said. Jesus. I haven't seen the movie in question so I don't know exactly how the initial story played out, but it seems like there is a BIG goddamn step in between those, and either way the LIVES OF BABIES are on the table here. It isn't 100% about the mothers, and don't forget that. Again, this is coming from someone who is pro-choice.

[NSZ]

Holy fuck dude, put the shovel down and stop digging yourself deeper.

[M.U.T.O.]

the LIVES OF BABIES are on the table here. It isn't 100% about the mothers, and don't forget that.

Sure, disregard that the mother was kidnapped and forced to give birth against her will. Are women just fetus incubators, or are they also people whose opinions and wants and needs matter too -- like the babies you claim to defend? You're really not helping your case. Sorry, man.

[Demon Lord Gira]

Okay, let's stop this discussion right here and now. This is definitely NOT the place to erupt into this kind of argument, so I will ask ONLY ONCE that we move on and leave this be. Otherwise, warnings will be handed out. Take this to the PM's, please. PLEASE.

[Fish Cakes]

Halloween is only once a year. :c