How Could Past Monsters Be Revisited in the Reiwa Era?

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Re: Reiwa Ghidorah: How do you want him?

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An End Game Thanos type villain in a Destroy All Monsters type movie. Really building up to the fact that he's coming too.

From there, they could start doing different things with him. Like having him fight and be defeated by new monsters, that later go on to challenge Godzilla. Maybe a team up movie where him and Godzilla team up, before turning on each other. Him and Mechagodzilla together have to happen at some point too.
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I don't want him at all. We've seen entirety too much Ghidorah in the last few decades, and he needs to be shelved for a few years. Bring in something new or give Spacegodzilla or Destoroyah a chance to be true Big Bads.
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Re: Reiwa Ghidorah: How do you want him?

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If they do use him id like them to expand on the ghidorah from the 4k ride, which acts very alien in it.

Though i will say it would be a hard sell, i feel ghidorah in kotm was one of the best interpretations of the character

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JAGzilla wrote:I don't want him at all. We've seen entirety too much Ghidorah in the last few decades, and he needs to be shelved for a few years. Bring in something new or give Spacegodzilla or Destoroyah a chance to be true Big Bads.
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JAGzilla wrote:I don't want him at all. We've seen entirety too much Ghidorah in the last few decades, and he needs to be shelved for a few years. Bring in something new or give Spacegodzilla or Destoroyah a chance to be true Big Bads.
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Honestly, the MonsterVerse version was probably my favorite version of the creature, and I really dug the Lovecraftian take on him that the Anime films did, way more than I thought I would (he was the best thing in the trilogy for sure). And even before that, he's been a space alien, a genetic experiment made up of creatures from the future, we saw him get turned into a cyborg, have hypno-powers, and even the odd twist of him being an ancient guardian.

It'd be very hard for me to come up with something new or interesting to do with him that wasn't already covered in those films.
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tyrantgoji wrote:
Well you two keep dreaming,but let's be honest, it ain't coming true.
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I hope for a blend of the Ghidorah from Godzilla x Evangelion and the Ghidorah from Planet Eater.
Basically Showa Ghidorah with an alien cult spreading his word. Think of Galactus and the Silver Surfer, where either Xilliens or Exif work as "heralds" of Ghidorah, arriving at preselected worlds, spreading their religion and attracting Ghidorah to that planet for consumption.
Also, he doesn't need to be extremely OP to devour worlds; let's say he works as a leech, arriving at a planet, using his gravity beams to absorb the planet's core energy and faith, and then leaving for the next world.
I think that could work just fine for the relation between aliens and Ghidorah while giving it a fresh air.

Oh, and he really needs to have the manes back.
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Full eldritch abomination. I had an idea of Ghidorah being a space parasite, using wormholes to travel through space by folding our dimension, creating an entry hole into the "other-dimension" and then traveling through the "other-dimension" space to reach the other side of the wormhole into the select target. Having to squeeze through the wormhole compresses his size and thus he grows from the energy of a solar system's planets and stars. After he successfully destroys a solar system, he begins to get hungry again, thus repeating the cycle.
As for his design, make him look ALIEN for once rather than just a 3 headed golden dragon. Bifurcated jaws, multiple eyes, weird lovecraft time-vortex thingy inside of him instead of standard innards, etc.
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Gawdziller1954 wrote:Full eldritch abomination. I had an idea of Ghidorah being a space parasite, using wormholes to travel through space by folding our dimension, creating an entry hole into the "other-dimension" and then traveling through the "other-dimension" space to reach the other side of the wormhole into the select target. Having to squeeze through the wormhole compresses his size and thus he grows from the energy of a solar system's planets and stars. After he successfully destroys a solar system, he begins to get hungry again, thus repeating the cycle.
As for his design, make him look ALIEN for once rather than just a 3 headed golden dragon. Bifurcated jaws, multiple eyes, weird lovecraft time-vortex thingy inside of him instead of standard innards, etc.
I don't like him being a parasite that "feeds" off Earth or any of the monsters. He should just destroy for the hell of it.

And while I like the idea of humans worshiping kaiju (i think they would in real life if creatures resembling stuff from ancient religions and myths surfaced), i don't want them to be super lovecraftian with King Ghidorah. If they want a more lovecraft inspired monster, they should just make a totally new monster and not completely change King Ghidorah.
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Yeah I’m on this one with having enough of King Ghidorah.
We’ve a weird but creative interpretation from Planet Eater, a fantastic modern incarnation from KOTM and a just as weirdly counterpart for Shin in the Godzilla vs Evangelion ride. It would be nice to have another villain shine...but we know that won’t happen. So I all I can say that I hope they give him more alien features and abilities like what they did with Planet Eater and GVEG.
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I guess we all can agree Lovecraftian Ghidorah is the next logical step for him (except for the people who want Toho to leave him rest and for the people still hyped with that awful KoTM Ghiddy).
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Destorogoji wrote:I guess we all can agree Lovecraftian Ghidorah is the next logical step for him (except for the people who want Toho to leave him rest and for the people still hyped with that awful KoTM Ghiddy).
I disagree.

We saw it in the anime trilogy. Interesting idea for a one shot series, but I want to see my outer space Ghidorah back. Involving himself in all sorts of different plots in unique ways. If they want a Lovecraftian villain, they should just introduce a new monster. Mechagodzilla and Ghidorah alike should be updated versions of their Showa counter parts, imo. Just on a much grander scale.
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Destorogoji wrote:I guess we all can agree Lovecraftian Ghidorah is the next logical step for him (except for the people who want Toho to leave him rest and for the people still hyped with that awful KoTM Ghiddy).
Quite the unpopular opinion there. Mind explaining why?
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Something like Grand King or Legendary Ghidorah design wise with some Lovecraftian elements.
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tyrantgoji wrote:I actually changed Godzilla loosing twice to just him faking a defeat. Mothra thinks he's gone,but unbeknownst to her,she's being followed. ..

And the only one egg thing,eh,that can be retconed.
Still don't want Mothra losing an egg, retcon or not.
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Basically I want the same design and especially(!) powers as we got on that Shin Goji vs NGE 4D ride, but bigger.
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Destorogoji wrote:I guess we all can agree Lovecraftian Ghidorah is the next logical step for him (except for the people who want Toho to leave him rest and for the people still hyped with that awful KoTM Ghiddy).
KOTM Ghidorah... awful? And this... why?
KOTM Ghidorah is like the third best version of the character after Grand King Ghidorah and Showa King Ghidorah

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Mmm... I would like to see Reiwa Ghidorah again as a planet destroyer alien, like the Showa one, but even more terrifying and sadistic. And maybe even capable to telepathically comunicate. Imagine Reiwa Ghidorah talking telepathically to his victims before killing them. That would be absolutely terrifying.

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Destorogoji wrote:I guess we all can agree Lovecraftian Ghidorah is the next logical step for him (except for the people who want Toho to leave him rest and for the people still hyped with that awful KoTM Ghiddy).
KOTM Ghidorah... awful? And this... why?
KOTM Ghidorah is like the third best version of the character after Grand King Ghidorah and Showa King Ghidorah

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Destorogoji wrote:I guess we all can agree Lovecraftian Ghidorah is the next logical step for him (except for the people who want Toho to leave him rest and for the people still hyped with that awful KoTM Ghiddy).
KOTM Ghidorah... awful? And this... why?
KOTM Ghidorah is like the third best version of the character after Grand King Ghidorah and Showa Ghidorah

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Destorogoji wrote:I guess we all can agree Lovecraftian Ghidorah is the next logical step for him (except for the people who want Toho to leave him rest and for the people still hyped with that awful KoTM Ghiddy).
KOTM Ghidorah... awful? And this... why?
KOTM Ghidorah is like the third best version of the character after Grand King Ghidorah and Showa King Ghidorah
Dude you typed the same comment three times,i think he gets it.
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tyrantgoji wrote:
Italian G-Fan wrote:
Destorogoji wrote:I guess we all can agree Lovecraftian Ghidorah is the next logical step for him (except for the people who want Toho to leave him rest and for the people still hyped with that awful KoTM Ghiddy).
KOTM Ghidorah... awful? And this... why?
KOTM Ghidorah is like the third best version of the character after Grand King Ghidorah and Showa King Ghidorah
Dude you typed the same comment three times,i think he gets it.

Yikes you are right. I didn’t notice I typed this three times. My bad sorry

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