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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby SoggyNoodles2016 » Mon Sep 23, 2019 5:27 am

Revenge has so much charm and heart, I can not hate it, no matter how hard I try.
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby Maritonic » Mon Sep 23, 2019 5:28 am

realinvaderdesign wrote:godzilla's revenge is the only godzilla movie i havent watched, ive had it for while and i am aware of its reputation.


Even as someone who really doesn't enjoy Revenge, I'd still recommend watching it. Don't let it's reputation discourage you.
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby realinvaderdesign » Mon Sep 23, 2019 5:34 am

JAGzilla wrote:
realinvaderdesign wrote:godzilla's revenge is the only godzilla movie i havent watched, ive had it for while and i am aware of its reputation.


Ah, but are you aware that it actually has several fans? I'd argue that, while the stock footage is a little excessive, it's actually a very enjoyable and unique entry in the franchise. Give it a shot, you might be glad you did.


Yeah most of the complaints i have heard have been the stock footage and minyas dopey english dub , but to say the least its not really because of its reputation that i havent seen it (i do enjoy the late showa godzilla movies like smog monster and megalon) its more due to not having time to watch it

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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby JAGzilla » Mon Sep 23, 2019 5:41 am

Oh, come on, make time. It's a little over an hour long. :P

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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby eabaker » Mon Sep 23, 2019 7:16 am

I think it's a mistake to view Godzilla's Revenge as a movie that incorporates stock footage. Watched instead as an experiment in constructing a movie around stock footage, it definitely works better.
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby LSD Jellyfish » Mon Sep 23, 2019 7:21 am

eabaker wrote:I think it's a mistake to view Godzilla's Revenge as a movie that incorporates stock footage. Watched instead as an experiment in constructing a movie around stock footage, it definitely works better.

There’s also a big argument to be made that versus something like Godzilla vs. Gigan, and Godzilla can. megaton, due to Ichiro being a Godzilla fan, and the events taking place in a dream, that the usage of stock footage actually aids the story telling. The film is about a young Godzilla fan, who just dreams and wishes he was there.

I know it’s not everyone’s cup of tea, but if you can watch the Japanese cut, and sit down, it’s not a horrendous time.
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby realinvaderdesign » Mon Sep 23, 2019 8:09 am

JAGzilla wrote:Oh, come on, make time. It's a little over an hour long. :P

Alright, ya got me. Finally decided to watch it, aaaaannnndd its not that bad, its a charming movie for what it is, its not really a godzilla story but still enjoyable

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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby LSD Jellyfish » Mon Sep 23, 2019 8:14 am

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JAGzilla wrote:Oh, come on, make time. It's a little over an hour long. :P

Alright, ya got me. Finally decided to watch it, aaaaannnndd its not that bad, its a charming movie for what it is, its not really a godzilla story but still enjoyable

Yeah, the film feels less like a Godzilla movie and more like a character study of a young boy, who is bullied.

My main issue with the film currently, is that other than some actual danger, I don’t see how the robbers connect with the Kaiju scene, or the bully scenes.
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby GuardianGhido » Mon Sep 23, 2019 8:21 am

Just watched Rampage today and had an absolute blast. I can see why it earned more than KOTM did even with KOTM's poop marketing and terrible timing. It's dumb and predictable, but still a fun monster mash throughout it all. I say the Rock's character did a little too well fighting giant monsters and surviving impossible situations without a scratch, (he's practically the one doing most of the fighting in the last bit (with George taking a backseat from what I saw) but other than that it did it's job for a fun monster flick. Had some good bits of humor in there like "Justice League" and that cowardly villain dude getting squashed right after fleeing too. It's nice to see that decent non MV monster movies pop up from time to time between the superhero and Disney drivel.
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby LSD Jellyfish » Mon Sep 23, 2019 8:25 am

I think Rampage is dumb, but knows it’s dumb, and is self aware. The Rock and everyone in the film, know that as well, and at the same time there is some genuine emotion with George. It’s not trying to pretend to have some big epic meaning...and you don’t see hours of self masturbatory documentaries and commentators talking about how great monsters and their films are...
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby GuardianGhido » Mon Sep 23, 2019 8:32 am

LSD Jellyfish wrote:I think Rampage is dumb, but knows it’s dumb, and is self aware. The Rock and everyone in the film, know that as well, and at the same time there is some genuine emotion with George. It’s not trying to pretend to have some big epic meaning...and you don’t see hours of self masturbatory documentaries and commentators talking about how great monsters and their films are...

Yeah it set out exactly what it tried to accomplish by being a fun turn your brain off monster movie to enjoy. Jason Liles (Ghidorah's middle head) also played George and I can tell he put a lot into it. Motion captured Kaiju just might be the new suitimation. (though I would definitely like to see actual suitimation return for Toho's future movies)
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby LSD Jellyfish » Mon Sep 23, 2019 8:36 am

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LSD Jellyfish wrote:I think Rampage is dumb, but knows it’s dumb, and is self aware. The Rock and everyone in the film, know that as well, and at the same time there is some genuine emotion with George. It’s not trying to pretend to have some big epic meaning...and you don’t see hours of self masturbatory documentaries and commentators talking about how great monsters and their films are...

Yeah it set out exactly what it tried to accomplish by being a fun turn your brain off monster movie to enjoy. Jason Liles (Ghidorah's middle head) also played George and I can tell he put a lot into it. Motion captured Kaiju just might be the new suitimation. (though I would definitely like to see actual suitimation return for Toho's future movies)


I’m still upset that we most likely will never get my dream, which is suits partially made with green parts, where later special effects can be added, like a super hybrid of suitmation and cgi.
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby GuardianGhido » Mon Sep 23, 2019 9:03 am

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GuardianGhido wrote:
LSD Jellyfish wrote:I think Rampage is dumb, but knows it’s dumb, and is self aware. The Rock and everyone in the film, know that as well, and at the same time there is some genuine emotion with George. It’s not trying to pretend to have some big epic meaning...and you don’t see hours of self masturbatory documentaries and commentators talking about how great monsters and their films are...

Yeah it set out exactly what it tried to accomplish by being a fun turn your brain off monster movie to enjoy. Jason Liles (Ghidorah's middle head) also played George and I can tell he put a lot into it. Motion captured Kaiju just might be the new suitimation. (though I would definitely like to see actual suitimation return for Toho's future movies)


I’m still upset that we most likely will never get my dream, which is suits partially made with green parts, where later special effects can be added, like a super hybrid of suitmation and cgi.

Yeah that'd be real awesome but it sounds way too impractical and hardly worth the trouble of having both a lumbering suit and expensive CGI.
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby eabaker » Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:22 am

GuardianGhido wrote:
LSD Jellyfish wrote:
GuardianGhido wrote:Yeah it set out exactly what it tried to accomplish by being a fun turn your brain off monster movie to enjoy. Jason Liles (Ghidorah's middle head) also played George and I can tell he put a lot into it. Motion captured Kaiju just might be the new suitimation. (though I would definitely like to see actual suitimation return for Toho's future movies)


I’m still upset that we most likely will never get my dream, which is suits partially made with green parts, where later special effects can be added, like a super hybrid of suitmation and cgi.

Yeah that'd be real awesome but it sounds way too impractical and hardly worth the trouble of having both a lumbering suit and expensive CGI.


That's pretty much my ideal, as well, and I don't know that it is all that impractical. It's not unusual to have human actors doing characters in partial make-up but with CG enhancements.
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby GuardianGhido » Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:24 am

eabaker wrote:
GuardianGhido wrote:
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I’m still upset that we most likely will never get my dream, which is suits partially made with green parts, where later special effects can be added, like a super hybrid of suitmation and cgi.

Yeah that'd be real awesome but it sounds way too impractical and hardly worth the trouble of having both a lumbering suit and expensive CGI.


That's pretty much my ideal, as well, and I don't know that it is all that impractical. It's not unusual to have human actors doing characters in partial make-up but with CG enhancements.

I suppose, but if you;re gonna go through the trouble of making a cumbersome and complex rubber suit, might as well go full suit instead of having expensive cgi for the same thing too. Outside of stuff like tails or tentacles, I don't see cgi being interwoven into a fully featured monster suit.
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby eabaker » Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:28 am

GuardianGhido wrote:
eabaker wrote:
GuardianGhido wrote:Yeah that'd be real awesome but it sounds way too impractical and hardly worth the trouble of having both a lumbering suit and expensive CGI.


That's pretty much my ideal, as well, and I don't know that it is all that impractical. It's not unusual to have human actors doing characters in partial make-up but with CG enhancements.

I suppose, but if you;re gonna go through the trouble of making a cumbersome and complex rubber suit, might as well go full suit instead of having expensive cgi for the same thing too. Outside of stuff like tails or tentacles, I don't see cgi being interwoven into a fully featured monster suit.


It wouldn't be a fully featured suit, though. It would be a much less complex, detailed and cumbersome suit than what one sees in straight suitmation.
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby edgaguirus » Wed Sep 25, 2019 11:55 am

So you would have a simple suit for the filming, but then place CGI details over the suit post filming?

It could be done, but special effects would more than likely just go with CGI. It would be simpler for them.
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby DirektorSplennic » Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:27 am

I kinda wanna see a golden Mechagodzilla, like this Trendmaster's figure:
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby ROMG4 » Sat Oct 12, 2019 2:15 pm

In the past two years since I left the site I feel I've drifted further and further away from the mentality of the mainstream Godzilla fanbase, especially this site

Granted this isn't anything new it's a major cause of why I left. That and the departures/banning of all the people I knew and the changing culture of the site

I've been lurking the past few months semi actively and I feel that divide has grown even larger. The discussion culture has changed and not for the better. Politics, weak discussion, and just I don't know

I don't know if anyone even remembers me especially since this is a new account. But I felt the need to say something
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby Living Corpse » Sat Oct 12, 2019 2:58 pm

ROMG4 wrote:In the past two years since I left the site I feel I've drifted further and further away from the mentality of the mainstream Godzilla fanbase, especially this site

Granted this isn't anything new it's a major cause of why I left. That and the departures/banning of all the people I knew and the changing culture of the site

I've been lurking the past few months semi actively and I feel that divide has grown even larger. The discussion culture has changed and not for the better. Politics, weak discussion, and just I don't know

I don't know if anyone even remembers me especially since this is a new account. But I felt the need to say something


That and some fans seem to have lost their damn minds.
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