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Re: Official News topic

Postby DaikaijuSokogeki! » Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:02 am

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God, this movie is just one huge bad idea.
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Re: Official News topic

Postby Showa Gyaos » Tue Jun 14, 2011 6:25 pm

Will Sasso?.....THE MOVIE'S GONNA' BOMB! :shock:
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Re: Official News topic

Postby nectarsis » Tue Jun 14, 2011 6:51 pm

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nectarsis wrote:It's perfectly legal for companies that require me to take a drug test to actually WORK, I see no problem making sure people aren't using ILLEGAL drugs to receive a taxpayer funded program.


It violates the 4th amendment.

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.


A government-mandated drug test for welfare recipients would be a search without probable cause. They aren't hiring employees, so drug-free workplace acts don't really apply here.

Plus it's just a stupid idea: http://www.aclu.org/drug-law-reform/drug-testing-public-assistance-recipients-condition-eligibility


If it does indeed violate the 4th amendment, how did "The 1996 Welfare Reform Act authorized - but did not require - states to impose mandatory drug testing as a prerequisite to receiving state welfare assistance" pass...much less not have been negated as unconstitutional in over 15 years? Going off the page you showed, even using the old (15 years out of date) Michigan #'s (and who knows how exact those #'s are as the program was stopped prematurely) at 10% failed that pretty much shows a REASON...hence unreasonable searches don't apply as they have established probable cause.
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Re: Official News topic

Postby Crocodile » Tue Jun 14, 2011 7:25 pm

A government-mandated drug test for welfare recipients would be a search without[b] probable cause.]/b] They aren't hiring employees, so drug-free workplace acts don't really apply here.



Same reason businesses can do it, to ensure that the people recieving it aren't on drugs.

It's to prevent the welfare system from being used to support drug habbits, especially the ones that feed the cartels. It's protection of assets

/propable cause
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Re: Official News topic

Postby yaburu » Wed Jun 15, 2011 4:57 pm

So apparently, the shooter of Tupac Shakur has come forward and confessed his crime:

http://celebs.gather.com/viewArticle.ac ... 4979454658
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Re: Official News topic

Postby Jomei » Wed Jun 15, 2011 6:05 pm

Crocodile wrote:
A government-mandated drug test for welfare recipients would be a search without[b] probable cause.]/b] They aren't hiring employees, so drug-free workplace acts don't really apply here.



Same reason businesses can do it, to ensure that the people recieving it aren't on drugs.

It's to prevent the welfare system from being used to support drug habbits, especially the ones that feed the cartels. It's protection of assets

/propable cause


Probable cause means they have reason to suspect you of being on illegal drugs. It doesn't mean you just have to have a reason for wanting to screen people.

Given that the ACLU page I posted states that "according to a 1996 study by the National Institute of Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism, differences between the proportion of welfare and non-welfare recipients using illegal drugs are statistically insignificant," there is no probable cause to suspect welfare recipients more than anyone else of using drugs.
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Re: Official News topic

Postby gvamp » Wed Jun 15, 2011 6:42 pm

Jomei wrote:Given that the ACLU page I posted states that "according to a 1996 study by the National Institute of Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism, differences between the proportion of welfare and non-welfare recipients using illegal drugs are statistically insignificant," there is no probable cause to suspect welfare recipients more than anyone else of using drugs.


That was back in 1996 this is 2011 a lot of things can change in 14 years.
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Re: Official News topic

Postby Showa Gyaos » Wed Jun 15, 2011 7:40 pm

Well, this is one shocking story: A man can conduct 20,000 volts of electricity without negative effects.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... m-him.html

This story gave me a buzz. I swear, I'm stunned by this. I'm pretty sure he feels a jolt of excitement when he does this shit too! [Okay, I'm done with the crappy electricity puns.]
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Re: Official News topic

Postby anguirusnut94 » Wed Jun 15, 2011 7:51 pm

I'm immpressed... he's no X-Man, but still, that's pretty cool!
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Re: Official News topic

Postby Godzillatheultimate » Wed Jun 15, 2011 8:49 pm

Showa Gyaos wrote:Well, this is one shocking story: A man can conduct 20,000 volts of electricity without negative effects.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... m-him.html

This story gave me a buzz. I swear, I'm stunned by this. I'm pretty sure he feels a jolt of excitement when he does this shit too! [Okay, I'm done with the crappy electricity puns.]

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Re: Official News topic

Postby Crocodile » Wed Jun 15, 2011 9:17 pm

Given that the ACLU page I posted states that "according to a 1996 study by the National Institute of Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism, differences between the proportion of welfare and non-welfare recipients using illegal drugs are statistically insignificant," there is no probable cause to suspect welfare recipients more than anyone else of using drugs.



Hey I don't agree with it, I'm just saying how they'll spin it.

You can spin anything, anyway if you try hard enough.
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Re: Official News topic

Postby Darth Calypso » Fri Jun 17, 2011 12:09 pm

Kids get fined for Running a Lemonade Stand: http://sports.yahoo.com/golf/blog/devil ... olf-wp2767
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Re: Official News topic

Postby Godzillatheultimate » Fri Jun 17, 2011 12:14 pm

Okay gentlemen, how can we make people hate the government more?
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Re: Official News topic

Postby Showa Gyaos » Fri Jun 17, 2011 12:41 pm

Darth Calypso wrote:Kids get fined for Running a Lemonade Stand: http://sports.yahoo.com/golf/blog/devil ... olf-wp2767

This has happened so many times that it's becoming ridiculous.
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Re: Official News topic

Postby NSZ » Fri Jun 17, 2011 1:12 pm

Godzillatheultimate wrote:Okay gentlemen, how can we make people hate the government more?


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Re: Official News topic

Postby Living Corpse » Fri Jun 17, 2011 1:20 pm

NSZ wrote:
Godzillatheultimate wrote:Okay gentlemen, how can we make people hate the government more?


Breathing Tax?


They already have taxes on food so sure why not.
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Re: Official News topic

Postby Godzillatheultimate » Fri Jun 17, 2011 1:49 pm

Living Corpse wrote:
NSZ wrote:
Godzillatheultimate wrote:Okay gentlemen, how can we make people hate the government more?


Breathing Tax?


They already have taxes on food so sure why not.

I like it, I like it, begin blackmailing politicains so it just passes on through. Best part, the tax doesn't apply to us. But we'll word it so convolutedly only we know that part.
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Re: Official News topic

Postby zilla103192 » Fri Jun 17, 2011 2:10 pm

Tax on using the Sun!!! 8-)
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Re: Official News topic

Postby Dynomy84 » Fri Jun 17, 2011 2:11 pm

I call the tax on looking at stuff! ...You guys are looking at this right now, pay up.
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Re: Official News topic

Postby wataru » Fri Jun 17, 2011 2:16 pm

Sex & Masturbation Tax.

...some people on here would be poooooooooor.
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