Huh. I never felt that about Godzilla 2000.EternalMothra wrote:I just felt like that movie was trying so hard to be serious...=
Also, are you talking only about how it comes off in the dub, or in the Japanese version as well?
Huh. I never felt that about Godzilla 2000.EternalMothra wrote:I just felt like that movie was trying so hard to be serious...=
In both versions, but the dub is far more cringe-worthy at that moment. Let me elaborate further. The film sets up this dark tone of Godzilla being a force of nature and this "alien being" re-branding the planet as its own. All-in-all, it's very doom-worthy, right? I think the spontaneous humor (and unconvincing humor) peppered throughout the movie takes away from the darkness the film tries to build, if that makes sense.eabaker wrote:Huh. I never felt that about Godzilla 2000.EternalMothra wrote:I just felt like that movie was trying so hard to be serious...=
Also, are you talking only about how it comes off in the dub, or in the Japanese version as well?
I guess I tend to think of the whole movie as more of a pulp adventure than a dark, doom and gloom kinda flick.EternalMothra wrote:In both versions, but the dub is far more cringe-worthy at that moment. Let me elaborate further. The film sets up this dark tone of Godzilla being a force of nature and this "alien being" re-branding the planet as its own. All-in-all, it's very doom-worthy, right? I think the spontaneous humor (and unconvincing humor) peppered throughout the movie takes away from the darkness the film tries to build, if that makes sense.eabaker wrote:Huh. I never felt that about Godzilla 2000.EternalMothra wrote:I just felt like that movie was trying so hard to be serious...=
Also, are you talking only about how it comes off in the dub, or in the Japanese version as well?
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No more doom-worthy than half of the Showa series' invasion/giant monster on the loose plots, really.EternalMothra wrote: In both versions, but the dub is far more cringe-worthy at that moment. Let me elaborate further. The film sets up this dark tone of Godzilla being a force of nature and this "alien being" re-branding the planet as its own. All-in-all, it's very doom-worthy, right?
Ah, shit, damn! We got legal weapons!LockBite wrote: Godzilla vs Biollante has some truly awful pseudo-English in the first act in the original Japanese audio.
Those voice actors were employed by a Hong Kong firm where most of said actors were expats from the U.S., the U.K., Canada, Australia, etc. (TriStar had nothing to do with the production of any Godzilla dub besides the version of Godzilla 2000 we got here.) I agree that their work is far from terrific but they had the unenviable task of creating a script from poorly-translated subtitles that Toho shipped them. That's likely how the character is dubbed "Radon" while Toho's own English credits use "Rodan."LockBite wrote:A lot of English lines in the Heisei series are really cringeworthy and unnatural-sounding. Godzilla vs Biollante has some truly awful pseudo-English in the first act in the original Japanese audio. Mostly, though, the awkward English delivery comes from those Tristar dubbers who especially should’ve known better. “Oh no he’s getting pissed off!” “Systems: OK!” “Radon” and my favorite: “What radioactivity!”
Likewise, the English "actors" hired by Toho to appear in these films were obviously just brought in because they knew English (or in the case of GvKG, because they were functionally bilingual). They didn't write their dialogue (which was probably written by a native Japanese speaker with very little knowledge of English) and they didn't have the acting ability to work around the awful dialogue. But I don't disagree that it's really awkward and generally unintentionally funny.I will plead guilty to charges of lack of familiarity of with the story of each film. All the English script-writer gets is a translation of the Japanese; there's no briefing on the background or history of the stories, or anything like that. So sometimes he doesn't fully comprehend what's supposed to be happening, and sometimes we have to make last-minute changes to the script in the studio...I know we sometimes get the details wrong.
I'd say G2K was a bit more doom-worthy since it was inspired by the whole Y2K scare.UltramanGoji wrote:No more doom-worthy than half of the Showa series' invasion/giant monster on the loose plots, really.EternalMothra wrote: In both versions, but the dub is far more cringe-worthy at that moment. Let me elaborate further. The film sets up this dark tone of Godzilla being a force of nature and this "alien being" re-branding the planet as its own. All-in-all, it's very doom-worthy, right?
Terasawa responded to this in depth, but I’d like to address the reverse phenomenon, mainly some Japanese actors briefly speaking English and how people criticize them.LockBite wrote:A lot of English lines in the Heisei series are really cringeworthy and unnatural-sounding. Godzilla vs Biollante has some truly awful pseudo-English in the first act in the original Japanese audio. Mostly, though, the awkward English delivery comes from those Tristar dubbers who especially should’ve known better. “Oh no he’s getting pissed off!” “Systems: OK!” “Radon” and my favorite: “What radioactivity!”
It's been a while, but I believe it was a bad *Lethal Weapon* reference.MikeSTZillak wrote:Ah, poop, damn! We got legal weapons!LockBite wrote: Godzilla vs Biollante has some truly awful pseudo-English in the first act in the original Japanese audio.
(at least that's what it sounded like)
eabaker wrote: You can't parse duende.
Breakdown wrote: HP Lovecraft's cat should be the ultimate villain of the MonsterVerse.
You really should let it go man, you're really hung up on this.Living Corpse wrote:Less Godzilla cringe and more people being un-throughtful dicks so I'm not sure if this fits in here
1. Person asks me to take them to see Godzilla 2014. They ghost me.
2. Another person asks me to take them to see Shin Godzilla. They also ghost me.
If they do the same thing to you with KOTM, drop them like a hot potato.Living Corpse wrote:Less Godzilla cringe and more people being un-throughtful dicks so I'm not sure if this fits in here
1. Person asks me to take them to see Godzilla 2014. They ghost me.
2. Another person asks me to take them to see Shin Godzilla. They also ghost me.
Maybe they had something to do and couldn't contact you for whatever reasonLiving Corpse wrote:Less Godzilla cringe and more people being un-throughtful dicks so I'm not sure if this fits in here
1. Person asks me to take them to see Godzilla 2014. They ghost me.
2. Another person asks me to take them to see Shin Godzilla. They also ghost me.
Moogabunga wrote:Ive said it before and I'll gladly say it again, this is going to be the best Godzilla film ever and more importantly, its going to be the film that truly makes Godzilla mainstream (and cool)
SoggyNoodles2016 wrote:I'm glad to be a fake fan.
No, they just can't act like adults. Trust me, this isn't the first or last instance of them being immature. Both could contact me but didn't say anything till I contacted them.Mr_Goji_and_Watch wrote:Maybe they had something to do and couldn't contact you for whatever reasonLiving Corpse wrote:Less Godzilla cringe and more people being un-throughtful dicks so I'm not sure if this fits in here
1. Person asks me to take them to see Godzilla 2014. They ghost me.
2. Another person asks me to take them to see Shin Godzilla. They also ghost me.
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goji89 wrote:Its common courtesy to ask people if they can be quoted.
Ya thats kind of weird. If I got all mad about girls I've dated that never got back to me I'd have an army!Smuggers wrote:Complaining about someone ghosting you five years ago is kinda cringe in of itself, I'd take Godzillian's advice and just let it go.
SpaceG92 wrote:
<=25% joke. >=75% topic. Even then - that's pushing it.
Living Corpse wrote:Less Godzilla cringe and more people being un-throughtful dicks so I'm not sure if this fits in here
1. Person asks me to take them to see Godzilla 2014. They ghost me.
2. Another person asks me to take them to see Shin Godzilla. They also ghost me.