When man and kaiju work together

For discussions covering more than one Toho film or show that span across more than one “era.”
Post Reply
edgaguirus
Keizer
Posts: 8608
Joined: Wed Jul 28, 2010 1:25 pm

When man and kaiju work together

Post by edgaguirus »

Usually, man and monster don't work as a pair. One is trying to defend themselves as the other is smashing all in its path. However, we have had times when man and monster have worked together to stop a mutual threat. The obvious one is G vs Hedorah. Neither man nor Godzilla had the power to kill Hedorah, but their combined effort brought down the environmental disaster. Then we also have ToMG, where Titanosaurus's weakness allowed Godzilla to finish off his robot double.

You might also include IotaM, as the humans brought down the aliens, and then Godzilla and Rodan sent KG back into retreat.
The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made.

The strength of the vampire is that people will not believe in him.

BlankAccount
Sazer
Posts: 12648
Joined: Sat Dec 27, 2014 10:49 pm

Re: When man and kaiju work together

Post by BlankAccount »

I still say that Gmaera 2: Advent of Legion is the best kaiju-military team up.

User avatar
_JNavs_
Keizer
Posts: 9657
Joined: Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:59 pm
Location: New York

Re: When man and kaiju work together

Post by _JNavs_ »

What would the end of Godzilla vs Destroyah be considered
____________________________ImageImage___________________________
Instagram: @Lord.Gojira

BlankAccount
Sazer
Posts: 12648
Joined: Sat Dec 27, 2014 10:49 pm

Re: When man and kaiju work together

Post by BlankAccount »

_JNavs_ wrote:What would the end of Godzilla vs Destroyah be considered
Opportunist or saving their own asses. Their original plan was to let Destroyer kill Godzilla but they realized even if they stopped Godzilla's meltdown they'd be stuck with Destroyer who is like Godzilla before he mellowed out over the years i.e. stupidly aggressive.

User avatar
Grievous
Terminated
Terminated
Posts: 1564
Joined: Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:27 pm

Re: When man and kaiju work together

Post by Grievous »

Living Corpse wrote:I still say that Gamera 2: Advent of Legion is the best kaiju-military team up.
Hear Hear!

*Thinks*

Although...it is a shame Gamera 3 ended when it did.

I also have to admit even though I hate vs. SpaceGodzilla as a film...
the scenes of Godzilla & Moguera teaming up & laying the smack down
on LameZilla are pretty awesome.

Does that count?
Last edited by Grievous on Mon Feb 25, 2019 5:14 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Image
The A.D.F Needs You! Join The Anguirus Defense Force via Private Message Today!

User avatar
GodzillaFan1990's
Sazer
Posts: 12275
Joined: Sat Jan 02, 2016 1:11 pm
Location: Canada
Contact:

Re: When man and kaiju work together

Post by GodzillaFan1990's »

Living Corpse wrote:I still say that Gmaera 2: Advent of Legion is the best kaiju-military team up.
This.
Grievous wrote:Although...it is a shame Gamera 3 ended when it did.
I disagree. I think it was a perfect way to a trilogy and letting the viewer decide what happens. Does Gamera win or not? Sometimes ambiguous endings are good.
Last edited by GodzillaFan1990's on Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:13 am, edited 4 times in total.

User avatar
Spuro
Keizer
Posts: 9545
Joined: Mon Dec 19, 2011 10:34 pm
Location: Monster Island

Re: When man and kaiju work together

Post by Spuro »

Don't forget Mothra and Kiryu's team up in SOS.

Looks like KotM will have a team up too, based on the first trailer's last shot.
eabaker wrote: You can't parse duende.
Breakdown wrote: HP Lovecraft's cat should be the ultimate villain of the MonsterVerse.

User avatar
Grievous
Terminated
Terminated
Posts: 1564
Joined: Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:27 pm

Re: When man and kaiju work together

Post by Grievous »

GodzillaFan1990's wrote:I disagree. I think it was a perfect way to a trilogy and letting the viewer decide what happens. Does Gamera win or not? Sometimes ambiguous endings are good.
I just meant in regards to seeing Gamera fight with the military against
the Gyaos Swarm.

The ending is fine...even if the film is IN MY OPINION highly overrated.

I understand why many, MANY kaiju fans love Gamera 3 & the film
looks amazing for its budget as well as having two of the greatest
kaiju fight scenes in history...but...

I will argue to the death that Gamera 2 is an overall more balanced
film with its science fiction/alien invasion plot giving it an edge over
the anime cliches of Gamera 3.
Image
The A.D.F Needs You! Join The Anguirus Defense Force via Private Message Today!

User avatar
GodzillaFan1990's
Sazer
Posts: 12275
Joined: Sat Jan 02, 2016 1:11 pm
Location: Canada
Contact:

Re: When man and kaiju work together

Post by GodzillaFan1990's »

Grievous wrote:I just meant in regards to seeing Gamera fight with the military against
the Gyaos Swarm.

The ending is fine...even if the film is IN MY OPINION highly overrated.
Ah okay.

IMO I like that they didn't show that due to reasons I stated but hey to each their own. ;)
Last edited by GodzillaFan1990's on Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:14 am, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
Tyrant_Lizard_King
Sazer
Posts: 12880
Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2013 5:57 am
Location: The Planet Trade HQ
Contact:

Re: When man and kaiju work together

Post by Tyrant_Lizard_King »

Grievous wrote: I will argue to the death that Gamera 2 is an overall more balanced
film with its science fiction/alien invasion plot giving it an edge over
the anime cliches of Gamera 3.
I wholeheartedly agree. I mean I really like Gamera 3, what it does well it does magnificently. However Gamera 2 is just a more coherent and well structured film overall.
Last edited by Tyrant_Lizard_King on Tue Feb 26, 2019 7:01 am, edited 1 time in total.
Rocker, paleo buff, cryptid enthusiast, Dragonball fanatic, and lover of comic book, video game, manga, & anime babes!
Follow me on Twitter, if you dare! https://twitter.com/TLK_1983
Image

BlankAccount
Sazer
Posts: 12648
Joined: Sat Dec 27, 2014 10:49 pm

Re: When man and kaiju work together

Post by BlankAccount »

Tyrant_Lizard_King wrote:
Grievous wrote: I will argue to the death that Gamera 2 is an overall more balanced
film with its science fiction/alien invasion plot giving it an edge over
the anime cliches of Gamera 3.
I wholeheartedly agree. I mean I really like Gamera 3, what it does well it does magnificently. However Gamera 2 is just a more coherent and well structured film overall.
And more fun. That being said, Gamera 3 was a fine way to end a trilogy.

User avatar
Grievous
Terminated
Terminated
Posts: 1564
Joined: Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:27 pm

Re: When man and kaiju work together

Post by Grievous »

Tyrant_Lizard_King wrote:I wholeheartedly agree. I mean I really like Gamera 3, what it does well it does magnificently. However Gamera 2 is just a more coherent and well structured film overall.
Living Corpse wrote:And more fun.
Wow...& here I though people would be
lighting torches & grabbing pitchforks.

:thumbsup:
Image
The A.D.F Needs You! Join The Anguirus Defense Force via Private Message Today!

BlankAccount
Sazer
Posts: 12648
Joined: Sat Dec 27, 2014 10:49 pm

Re: When man and kaiju work together

Post by BlankAccount »

Grievous wrote:
Tyrant_Lizard_King wrote:I wholeheartedly agree. I mean I really like Gamera 3, what it does well it does magnificently. However Gamera 2 is just a more coherent and well structured film overall.
Living Corpse wrote:And more fun.
Wow...& here I though people would be
lighting torches & grabbing pitchforks.

:thumbsup:
Gamera 3 is a good movie, but it is overrated.

User avatar
Grievous
Terminated
Terminated
Posts: 1564
Joined: Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:27 pm

Re: When man and kaiju work together

Post by Grievous »

Living Corpse wrote:Gamera 3 is a good movie, but it is overrated.
We should be friends.

:thumbsup:
Image
The A.D.F Needs You! Join The Anguirus Defense Force via Private Message Today!

User avatar
Terasawa
Xilien Halfling
Posts: 5841
Joined: Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:06 am

Re: When man and kaiju work together

Post by Terasawa »

Requesting Mothra's help in Ghidrah lead to Godzilla and Rodan joining the defense of Earth against Ghidrah. (Similarly, in vs. Megalon Goro orders Jet Jaguar: "Get Godzilla! You'll find him on Monster Island.")

Godzilla and the other monsters continued fighting the Kilaaks even after the Monsterland control device was destroyed by the Fire Dragon.

Minya received some coaching from Ichiro on how to beat Gabara.

Gengo and friends destroying Godzilla Tower from the inside put an end to the Nebula aliens' control of Ghidorah and Gigan and gave Godzilla the time he needed to mount a counterattack.

Nanbara and Professor Miyajima used the latter's pipe to short the Mechagodzilla control device. (Geez this happened a lot in the later Showa Godzilla movies.)
寺沢. He/him/his, etc.

edgaguirus
Keizer
Posts: 8608
Joined: Wed Jul 28, 2010 1:25 pm

Re: When man and kaiju work together

Post by edgaguirus »

There's also WotG. During the fight, the masers fire on Gaira. It's possible this helped weaken Gaira and give Sanda a better chance at winning.
The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made.

The strength of the vampire is that people will not believe in him.

Post Reply