Maritonic wrote:mvp9056 wrote:Once again, those movies didn't work because they were (bad) action movies focused on all the wrong things with these characters. I get what you're saying, and even pointed out that one of the biggest reasons those classics work is because of the performances. But most of the general audience hasn't seen those older films, therefore they don't have that same framework you do. If they see a good performance and grow attached to it, then that is all it is to them. I don't see how other capable actors can't utilize the material as well, or give their own takes on them. I've always felt the best way to continue these characters is through new stories, maybe introducing new characters, or evolving the already existing characters in some way.
If people had the same attitudes with Godzilla, Kong, Batman, or any number of other characters; just doing the same things with them or discontinuing them all together after their first few landmark appearances, we wouldn't have amount/variety of material we have today.
Most of the general audience hasn't seen those older films? We're talking about some of the most iconic films in all history. I have to completely disagree with you on that.
We keep talking in circles. I get you think other people can do it. I keep saying it's possible I just think it's unlikely because 9.9/10 Dracula movies suck. 9.9/10 Frankenstein movies suck.
And the Godzilla, Kong, and Batman comparisons aren't really comparable; we get a "Dracula" and "Frankenstein" movie every few years, it's not as if they don't stop making them.
We don't actually get Dracula or Frankenstein all that much these days. That's an exaggeration I think as I Frankenstein and Victor Frankenstein are the only notable films that have been released in recent time, and those came out in a short window 4-5 years ago. The only notable Dracula film was DU 5 years ago. They don't come out in such quick succession anymore.
They're iconic yes, but that's because of the characters' imagery in pop culture. Most people (especially younger) don't even like watching old B&W movies. Just because something is iconic doesn't necessarily equate to people having seen all the movies/material based on them, and in this case the age and format would be a turnoff to most mainstream audiences.
I used Kong and Godzilla as examples to say that, like Frank or Drac, they're old characters that creative directors had ideas on how to update or do new things with. This in turn kept them fresh for modern audiences. And Godzilla movies were coming out almost year after year, the same time most of the Frankenstein and Dracula films we have were being made (50's to 70's).