Hedorah vs. Destroyah: Godzilla’s Deadliest Foe

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Who’s The Deadliest?

Hedorah
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Destroyah
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Re: Hedorah vs. Destroyah: Godzilla’s Deadliest Foe

Postby MechaGoji Bro7503 » Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:50 pm

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MechaGoji Bro7503 wrote:vagina eyes

HA!

Sounds like the name of a Melvins' song/album.

The filmmakers actually based Hedorah's eyes off of that. I'm not joking :lol:
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Postby Grievous » Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:56 pm

MechaGoji Bro7503 wrote:The filmmakers actually based Hedorah's eyes off of that. I'm not joking :lol:

I've heard the story...

Didn't Banno (R.I.P) see some graffiti in a public toilet
& copied a crude drawing of a vagina for Hedorah's eyes?
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Postby MechaGoji Bro7503 » Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:00 pm

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MechaGoji Bro7503 wrote:The filmmakers actually based Hedorah's eyes off of that. I'm not joking :lol:

I've heard the story...

Didn't Banno (R.I.P) see some graffiti in a public toilet
& copied a crude drawing of a vagina for Hedorah's eyes?

I've heard the story, but not that story. If it's true then he really did put a lot of thought into Hedorah, moreso than a couple of guys sitting around and thinking up Destoroyah, our edgy overrated crab overlord.
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Postby Grievous » Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:06 pm

MechaGoji Bro7503 wrote:I've heard the story, but not that story. If it's true then he really did put a lot of thought into Hedorah, moreso than a couple of guys sitting around and thinking up Destoroyah, our edgy overrated crab overlord.

So...Destoroyah is Reaper if the kaiju world was Overwatch?

And now I'm just thinking of Kent Brockman reading the news...

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Postby MechaGoji Bro7503 » Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:15 pm

Grievous wrote:So...Destoroyah is Reaper if the kaiju world was Overwatch?

And now I'm just thinking of Kent Brockman reading the news...

"And I for one welcome our new Crab Overlord..."

I don't play the Overwatch, so my answer is yes.
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Postby Grievous » Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:42 pm

MechaGoji Bro7503 wrote:I don't play the Overwatch, so my answer is yes.

Well...neither do I...but for some reason I know who the characters are.

*Thinks*

I'm surprised they haven't made an Overwatch film yet...

Anyway...on topic...

Hedorah Rules...Destroyah Drools...

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Postby Rhedosaurus » Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:58 pm

Not sure if this is the right place to ask this, but wasn't Des mortally wounded by Burning Godzilla via that one scene where he was coughing up blood? Even if Des flew away, he would have died via internal organ damage anyway.

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Postby UltramanGoji » Mon Jan 07, 2019 3:27 pm

Rhedosaurus wrote:Not sure if this is the right place to ask this, but wasn't Des mortally wounded by Burning Godzilla via that one scene where he was coughing up blood?


Wounded, yes, obviously. Mortally? The film doesn't give us any indication that that's the case, as Destoroyah immediately breaks down into their Aggregate forms once it happens.

Later on they take heavy hits from Godzilla's deadlier Spiral Ray and there's visible wounds but it's not made clear whether they would've died from them or not.
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Postby SoggyNoodles2016 » Mon Jan 07, 2019 4:17 pm

UltramanGoji wrote:
Rhedosaurus wrote:Not sure if this is the right place to ask this, but wasn't Des mortally wounded by Burning Godzilla via that one scene where he was coughing up blood?


Wounded, yes, obviously. Mortally? The film doesn't give us any indication that that's the case, as Destoroyah immediately breaks down into their Aggregate forms once it happens.

Later on they take heavy hits from Godzilla's deadlier Spiral Ray and there's visible wounds but it's not made clear whether they would've died from them or not.


Can Destoryah even "die" in that form? There's blood and wounds in all, but in total, it's just a clump of microrgansims, not a normal woundable creature. The only real way to kill Destoryah is to take out all the microorgansims at once, like the millitary with their freezing weapons.
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Postby KaijuCanuck » Mon Jan 07, 2019 6:30 pm

Hedorah was the more powerful I think, but the question was ‘deadliest’, so I answered Destroyah - he’s the only one that actually kills another kaiju.
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Postby Grievous » Mon Jan 07, 2019 10:28 pm

KaijuCanuck wrote:Hedorah was the more powerful I think, but the question was ‘deadliest’, so I answered Destroyah - he’s the only one that actually kills another kaiju.

But isn't Hedorah the "Deadliest" due to him being able to
pollute, poison & corrupt the very environment around him?

Hedorah is basically a kaiju who brings a plague with him...
choking the life out of EVERYTHING.
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Postby miguelnuva » Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:06 am

Godzilla was stronger than Destroyer but couldn't put him down. Hedorah was about equal to Godzilla If not out right stronger and Godzilla lacked the ability to out him down.

Destroyer did choose to run from the infinite spiral rays.
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Postby PitchBlackProgress » Tue Jan 08, 2019 3:44 am

Grievous wrote:
KaijuCanuck wrote:Hedorah was the more powerful I think, but the question was ‘deadliest’, so I answered Destroyah - he’s the only one that actually kills another kaiju.

But isn't Hedorah the "Deadliest" due to him being able to
pollute, poison & corrupt the very environment around him?

Hedorah is basically a kaiju who brings a plague with him...
choking the life out of EVERYTHING.

Bingo, so what if Destroyah killed a baby Godzilla, Hedorah was going to pollute the planet in Smog and then spread through space like a plague :shrug:
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Postby JAGzilla » Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:20 am

And even if Hedorah failed to actually kill Godzilla, I'd say a lot of that is due to Godzilla being Godzilla. Very few other kaiju (especially in the Showa timeline) would have had the durability to last that long against something capable of dissolving the flesh from Godzilla's bones.

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Postby Rhedosaurus » Tue Jan 08, 2019 3:33 pm

SoggyNoodles2016 wrote:
UltramanGoji wrote:
Rhedosaurus wrote:Not sure if this is the right place to ask this, but wasn't Des mortally wounded by Burning Godzilla via that one scene where he was coughing up blood?


Wounded, yes, obviously. Mortally? The film doesn't give us any indication that that's the case, as Destoroyah immediately breaks down into their Aggregate forms once it happens.

Later on they take heavy hits from Godzilla's deadlier Spiral Ray and there's visible wounds but it's not made clear whether they would've died from them or not.


Can Destoryah even "die" in that form? There's blood and wounds in all, but in total, it's just a clump of microrgansims, not a normal woundable creature. The only real way to kill Destoryah is to take out all the microorgansims at once, like the millitary with their freezing weapons.


Yes. Destoryah was one whole animal in his final form, so he could die.

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Postby KaijuCanuck » Tue Jan 08, 2019 3:47 pm

I’m sure it’s total coincidence, but it’s kind of cool how both of Godzilla’s ‘ultimate’ foes are these crazy, multiple form, evolving, conglomerating monstrosities.
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Postby Malchik » Tue Jan 08, 2019 6:38 pm

UltramanGoji wrote:SpaceGodzilla was an overarching threat in his movie. He showed up on Birth Island in the beginning and brutally beat Godzilla and captured Little G. The whole rest of the movie is Godzilla making his way to Fukuoka to stop SpaceGodzilla. SpaceG actually manages to "colonize" the city and turn it into his own crystal palace.

SpaceGodzilla was, arguable, the only monster villain in the Heisei series to demonstrate actual sentience rather than just sapience. Can you think of another monster of that era that has shown intentional malice and a clear goal?

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Postby Zarm » Tue Jan 08, 2019 8:26 pm

KaijuCanuck wrote:I’m sure it’s total coincidence, but it’s kind of cool how both of Godzilla’s ‘ultimate’ foes are these crazy, multiple form, evolving, conglomerating monstrosities.


And then 2016 came, and it was Godzilla's turn... :)
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Postby Tyrant_Lizard_King » Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:46 pm

Do people still actually think that's true?
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Postby Grievous » Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:27 am

KaijuCanuck wrote:I’m sure it’s total coincidence, but it’s kind of cool how both of Godzilla’s ‘ultimate’ foes are these crazy, multiple form, evolving, conglomerating monstrosities.

That's because Destoroyah is a copy of Hedorah.

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UltramanGoji wrote:SpaceGodzilla was an overarching threat in his movie. He showed up on Birth Island in the beginning and brutally beat Godzilla and captured Little G. The whole rest of the movie is Godzilla making his way to Fukuoka to stop SpaceGodzilla. SpaceG actually manages to "colonize" the city and turn it into his own crystal palace.

SpaceGodzilla was, arguable, the only monster villain in the Heisei series to demonstrate actual sentience rather than just sapience. Can you think of another monster of that era that has shown intentional malice and a clear goal?

Sentience or not...he was still a boring, overpowered clone.

I don't get what the fandom see's in SpaceGodzilla.

Ghidorah I get...Gigan I get...Orga I get...but SpaceGodzilla...

He's just a blue version of Godzilla with a crystal fetish & Professor X powers.

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