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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby MechaGoji Bro7503 » Mon Dec 17, 2018 3:39 pm

Godzilla Against Mechagodzilla would've been really great if Akane's character was more developed, her relationship with Sarah was further expanded on, and Godzilla's motivations were explained here rather then in the sequel. Godzilla literally pops out of nowhere whenever he's needed, with barely any purpose or goal besides wanting to destroy cities. It would've been different if he was on a continous rampage like in the early Showa films or Shin. Not too mention expanding on the threat of Kiryu going rogue at any moment.

Obviously, expanding the runtime would've been a better choice or rewriting some scenes.
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby Grievous » Mon Dec 17, 2018 4:58 pm

MechaGoji Bro7503 wrote:Godzilla Against Mechagodzilla would've been really great if Akane's character was more developed, her relationship with Sarah was further expanded on, and Godzilla's motivations were explained here rather then in the sequel.

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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby UltramanGoji » Mon Dec 17, 2018 5:51 pm

MechaGoji Bro7503 wrote:Godzilla Against Mechagodzilla would've been really great if Akane's character was more developed, her relationship with Sarah was further expanded on, and Godzilla's motivations were explained here rather then in the sequel. Godzilla literally pops out of nowhere whenever he's needed, with barely any purpose or goal besides wanting to destroy cities. It would've been different if he was on a continous rampage like in the early Showa films or Shin. Not too mention expanding on the threat of Kiryu going rogue at any moment.

Obviously, expanding the runtime would've been a better choice or rewriting some scenes.


Very true, I enjoy it a lot but I think it gets a lot of unwarranted praise sometimes.

At the very least, it's way, way better than it's sequel.
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby eabaker » Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:44 am

UltramanGoji wrote:At the very least, it's way, way better than it's sequel.


And so, once again, this board provides us with the very definition of damning with faint praise.
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby KaijuCanuck » Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:45 am

eabaker wrote:
UltramanGoji wrote:At the very least, it's way, way better than it's sequel.


And so, once again, this board provides us with the very definition of damning with faint praise.


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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby eabaker » Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:46 am

KaijuCanuck wrote:
eabaker wrote:
UltramanGoji wrote:At the very least, it's way, way better than it's sequel.


And so, once again, this board provides us with the very definition of damning with faint praise.


You’re alive!!


Yup, just needed some time to chill out. Also, work was absolutely insane for a couple of weeks there, and I couldn't even break away to eat at times, much less get into nit-picky debates online.
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby KaijuCanuck » Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:48 am

eabaker wrote:
KaijuCanuck wrote:
eabaker wrote:
And so, once again, this board provides us with the very definition of damning with faint praise.


You’re alive!!


Yup, just needed some time to chill out. Also, work was absolutely insane for a couple of weeks there, and I couldn't even break away to eat at times, much less get into nit-picky debates online.


Fair enough! Glad you’re back though.
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby goji89 » Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:57 am

eabaker wrote: And so, once again, this board provides us with the very definition of damning with faint praise.


You Bastard! I was about to post if anyone has heard from you. You leave and just show up like as if nothing happened....? The skreeonking balls on you. :cry: , Im just glad your back...*hugs you tight*....*moves away and slaps you*.....*hugs you again*....dont ever leave again without saying where your going....the kids here on TK and I were worried.

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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby eabaker » Tue Dec 18, 2018 12:08 pm

goji89 wrote:
eabaker wrote: And so, once again, this board provides us with the very definition of damning with faint praise.


You Bastard! I was about to post if anyone has heard from you. You leave and just show up like as if nothing happened....? The skreeonking balls on you. :cry: , Im just glad your back...*hugs you tight*....*moves away and slaps you*.....*hugs you again*....dont ever leave again without saying where your going....the kids here on TK and I were worried.


Sorry to scare you like that, buddy!
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby Grievous » Tue Dec 18, 2018 12:10 pm

Do you guys need a moment? Or a private room?

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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby Zarm » Tue Dec 18, 2018 12:12 pm

eabaker wrote:
goji89 wrote:
eabaker wrote: And so, once again, this board provides us with the very definition of damning with faint praise.


You Bastard! I was about to post if anyone has heard from you. You leave and just show up like as if nothing happened....? The skreeonking balls on you. :cry: , Im just glad your back...*hugs you tight*....*moves away and slaps you*.....*hugs you again*....dont ever leave again without saying where your going....the kids here on TK and I were worried.


Sorry to scare you like that, buddy!


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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby eabaker » Tue Dec 18, 2018 12:16 pm

Zarm wrote:
eabaker wrote:
goji89 wrote:
You Bastard! I was about to post if anyone has heard from you. You leave and just show up like as if nothing happened....? The skreeonking balls on you. :cry: , Im just glad your back...*hugs you tight*....*moves away and slaps you*.....*hugs you again*....dont ever leave again without saying where your going....the kids here on TK and I were worried.


Sorry to scare you like that, buddy!


It's just how we all feel, Mr. Spock...


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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby Grievous » Tue Dec 18, 2018 12:17 pm

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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby goji89 » Tue Dec 18, 2018 12:40 pm

eabaker wrote:
Zarm wrote:
eabaker wrote:
Sorry to scare you like that, buddy!


It's just how we all feel, Mr. Spock...


This simple feeling is beyond V'ger's comprehension.


And there it is :huge: ..Me not knowing WTF your talking about....yay day made.

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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby edgaguirus » Tue Dec 18, 2018 1:13 pm

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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby G2000 » Tue Dec 25, 2018 9:24 pm

In some regards I prefer suitmation to stop-motion. Well-executed suitmation looks better in my opinion in part because the motions are real (albeit often slowed down in kaiju films) instead of the illusion of movement given by stop-motion, which even at it’s best looks a bit unnatural and “jerky.”
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby Grievous » Wed Dec 26, 2018 2:46 am

G2000 wrote:In some regards I prefer suitmation to stop-motion. Well-executed suitmation looks better in my opinion in part because the motions are real (albeit often slowed down in kaiju films) instead of the illusion of movement given by stop-motion, which even at it’s best looks a bit unnatural and “jerky.”

I prefer "suitmation" to "stop-motion" BUT...stop-motion has
its own appeal...at least it does to me...and I think the jerky,
unnatural movement adds a certain charm to it.
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby Mr_Goji_and_Watch » Wed Dec 26, 2018 11:24 am

Stop motion is really impressive on a technical level but they're both equally artificial on screen so I never really got the flack suit-mation got over the other. Doubt anybody really bought clay skeletons over a dude in a rubber suit past childhood.
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby goji89 » Wed Dec 26, 2018 1:04 pm

I prefer practical FX like suit-matation and stop motion than CGI. I just love those mediums much better as they convey much more emotion and skill....(Not taking away from CGI creators as Im sure those can be really difficult to pull off as well)....Just that I grew up with those movie art effects.

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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby JAGzilla » Wed Dec 26, 2018 1:50 pm

I'm fine with any of those mediums as long as they look good. If an effect has to look distractingly obvious/bad, though, I'll take a bad physical suit/prop over bad CGI.

Where kaiju are concerned, suitmation IS their medium all the way. The other mediums can and do pull them off well, but traditional kaiju are simply meant to be suits. The suit look is just what they're supposed to look like, and anything else is an outlier.


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