How can sloppy Dougherty compete with Ishiro Honda's Criterion Collection certified classics?BARAGONBREH wrote:Quite possibly. It's not as if 99% of the Toho films are stiff competition, given the frequent shoddiness of the franchise historically.
Will King of the Monsters be the best Godzilla yet?
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Re: Will King of the Monsters be the best Godzilla yet?
Agreed.BARAGONBREH wrote:Quite possibly. It's not as if 99% of the Toho films are stiff competition, given the frequent shoddiness of the franchise historically.
Assuming the leaks are true, it could be a great godzilla movie, but the best? Probably not.
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Re: Will King of the Monsters be the best Godzilla yet?
How can it compete with Godzilla's Revenge?
It probably won't even have a talking Minya. And since Minya isn't in the movie, i'd say that's a safe bet!
It probably won't even have a talking Minya. And since Minya isn't in the movie, i'd say that's a safe bet!
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Re: Will King of the Monsters be the best Godzilla yet?
At the very least, it seems poised to be the best AMERICAN Godzilla film with potential to be better than most of the Japanese counterparts as well.
But I don't want to get my hopes up.
But I don't want to get my hopes up.
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Re: Will King of the Monsters be the best Godzilla yet?
Pretty hard to top the original. I doubt Hollywood will ever have the guts to give a Godzilla film some real philosophical weight to it like Gojira had. Even though they could - and they should. Though I doubt he'd be interested in the material, it'd be pretty cool to see what someone like Alex Garland would do with Godzilla.BlacktimusPrime wrote:Agreed.BARAGONBREH wrote:Quite possibly. It's not as if 99% of the Toho films are stiff competition, given the frequent shoddiness of the franchise historically.
Assuming the leaks are true, it could be a great godzilla movie, but the best? Probably not.
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True, though when discussing best Godzilla movies, I'm honestly of the mind that Gojira should be excluded on a "it literally goes without saying" basis. Otherwise it doesn't allow too much discussion, know what I mean?BARAGONBREH wrote:Pretty hard to top the original.
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Re: Will King of the Monsters be the best Godzilla yet?
As the best Godzilla movie ever? No.
Best American Godzilla movie: Hell yeah.
Best American Godzilla movie: Hell yeah.
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Re: Will King of the Monsters be the best Godzilla yet?
I'm of this opinion too- it definitely has the potential of being the best american adaptation of the Godzilla mythos to dateGojira18 wrote:As the best Godzilla movie ever? No.
Best American Godzilla movie: Hell yeah.
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Both the 64 films topped Gojira especially Mothra vs Godzilla.BlacktimusPrime wrote:True, though when discussing best Godzilla movies, I'm honestly of the mind that Gojira should be excluded on a "it literally goes without saying" basis. Otherwise it doesn't allow too much discussion, know what I mean?BARAGONBREH wrote:Pretty hard to top the original.
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Mothra vs Godzilla> Gojira
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How so? Mothra vs Godzilla is a great film on it's own right but it doesn't have the depth of 54. Ghidorah is alright but incredibly rushed in certain aspects.miguelnuva wrote: Both the 64 films topped Gojira especially Mothra vs Godzilla.
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I think he might mean in more objective terms of mass appeal, box office success, and encouraging the creation of more kaiju films.Mr_Goji_and_Watch wrote:How so? Mothra vs Godzilla is a great film on it's own right but it doesn't have the depth of 54. Ghidorah is alright but incredibly rushed in certain aspects.miguelnuva wrote: Both the 64 films topped Gojira especially Mothra vs Godzilla.
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Re: Will King of the Monsters be the best Godzilla yet?
Gojira gives a better message but Mothra vs Godzilla has a better stroy and is more exciting to me and Ghidorah is the quintessential Godzilla film as far as what the franchise as a whole offers.KaijuCanuck wrote:I think he might mean in more objective terms of mass appeal, box office success, and encouraging the creation of more kaiju films.Mr_Goji_and_Watch wrote:How so? Mothra vs Godzilla is a great film on it's own right but it doesn't have the depth of 54. Ghidorah is alright but incredibly rushed in certain aspects.miguelnuva wrote: Both the 64 films topped Gojira especially Mothra vs Godzilla.
Only thing Gojira has over the other films in the series to me is that I see it as a oscar type film.
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Nevermind I was wrong.miguelnuva wrote:Gojira gives a better message but Mothra vs Godzilla has a better stroy and is more exciting to me and Ghidorah is the quintessential Godzilla film as far as what the franchise as a whole offers.KaijuCanuck wrote:I think he might mean in more objective terms of mass appeal, box office success, and encouraging the creation of more kaiju films.Mr_Goji_and_Watch wrote:
How so? Mothra vs Godzilla is a great film on it's own right but it doesn't have the depth of 54. Ghidorah is alright but incredibly rushed in certain aspects.
Only thing Gojira has over the other films in the series to me is that I see it as a oscar type film.
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While I agree with you, I think the opinion that Gojira is unquestionably the best is so widespread that these discussions should just be labeled "What is the 2nd best Godzilla film?"miguelnuva wrote:Both the 64 films topped Gojira especially Mothra vs Godzilla.
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This topic really is kinda pointless. Its just way too early to ask this question.
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lol yeah....KaijuCanuck wrote: Nevermind I was wrong.
Moogabunga wrote:Ive said it before and I'll gladly say it again, this is going to be the best Godzilla film ever and more importantly, its going to be the film that truly makes Godzilla mainstream (and cool)
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Re: Will King of the Monsters be the best Godzilla yet?
Uh huh.miguelnuva wrote:Both the 64 films topped Gojira especially Mothra vs Godzilla.BlacktimusPrime wrote:True, though when discussing best Godzilla movies, I'm honestly of the mind that Gojira should be excluded on a "it literally goes without saying" basis. Otherwise it doesn't allow too much discussion, know what I mean?BARAGONBREH wrote:Pretty hard to top the original.
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Yeah...no they didn't. Gojira is still the highest peak of the Showa era, and thus far probably the peak of the franchise itself.BARAGONBREH wrote:Uh huh.miguelnuva wrote:Both the 64 films topped Gojira especially Mothra vs Godzilla.BlacktimusPrime wrote:
True, though when discussing best Godzilla movies, I'm honestly of the mind that Gojira should be excluded on a "it literally goes without saying" basis. Otherwise it doesn't allow too much discussion, know what I mean?
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Re: Will King of the Monsters be the best Godzilla yet?
Yep. Mothra was a children's movie. A decent one, but still a children's movie - and not high-quality, "children's-movie-but-actually-pretty-deep-for-adults" Pixar-style children's movie.Dawsbfiremind wrote:Yeah...no they didn't. Gojira is still the highest peak of the Showa era, and thus far probably the peak of the franchise itself.BARAGONBREH wrote:Uh huh.miguelnuva wrote:
Both the 64 films topped Gojira especially Mothra vs Godzilla.
Ghidorah is a decently amusing B movie for people who dig kaiju.
Gojira approached something like art, or at least the closest anyone has thus far gotten to art when making a movie about a giant monster destroying everything.
No contest.
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Godzilla '54 has significantly higher attendance numbers than both Mothra vs Godzilla and Ghidorah. But they're all within the top ten of the series.KaijuCanuck wrote:I think he might mean in more objective terms of mass appeal, box office success, and encouraging the creation of more kaiju films.Mr_Goji_and_Watch wrote:How so? Mothra vs Godzilla is a great film on it's own right but it doesn't have the depth of 54. Ghidorah is alright but incredibly rushed in certain aspects.miguelnuva wrote: Both the 64 films topped Gojira especially Mothra vs Godzilla.