GODZILLA: Tristar Godzilla Film (1998)
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Wow another tired "le Godzilla 98 is cancer XDXDXDXD" meme. How original
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I never understood the obsession with "that's a lot of fish." It's a harmless line. Pointless, maybe, but nowhere near as catastrophic as Doug Walker made it out to be. I never even saw it brought up as a criticism until his review. There's so much more that deserves criticism in the movie than that line.
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Who are you quoting?Godzillian wrote:Wow another tired "le Godzilla 98 is cancer XDXDXDXD" meme. How original
Moogabunga wrote:Ive said it before and I'll gladly say it again, this is going to be the best Godzilla film ever and more importantly, its going to be the film that truly makes Godzilla mainstream (and cool)
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Not to defend Doug Walker, but he claimed in later videos that old NC was all about trying to force memes and stupid inside jokes. I have no doubt that's what this was.HeiseiGodzilla117 wrote:I never understood the obsession with "that's a lot of fish." It's a harmless line. Pointless, maybe, but nowhere near as catastrophic as Doug Walker made it out to be.
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That's fair. I think it irritated me more that it caught on and people started treating it like a major flaw. I still see it all over the place. It's such a minor thing.UltramanGoji wrote:Not to defend Doug Walker, but he claimed in later videos that old NC was all about trying to force memes and stupid inside jokes. I have no doubt that's what this was.HeiseiGodzilla117 wrote:I never understood the obsession with "that's a lot of fish." It's a harmless line. Pointless, maybe, but nowhere near as catastrophic as Doug Walker made it out to be.
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This movie came out when I was 6 years old, and I remember just being so stoked that we got an American made Godzilla flick. Looking back, it's a bad 90's movie and a worse Godzilla movie.
I've always been confused by Toho's approval/disapproval. They approved the design and I've heard they loved it, they approved everything about the script, but then shit on it when it came out. I guess that's just shrouded in mystery and no one will ever truly know how they feel.
I've always been confused by Toho's approval/disapproval. They approved the design and I've heard they loved it, they approved everything about the script, but then shit on it when it came out. I guess that's just shrouded in mystery and no one will ever truly know how they feel.
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It's easier for Toho to put all the blame on Sony then acknowledge their hand in itscottzilla wrote:This movie came out when I was 6 years old, and I remember just being so stoked that we got an American made Godzilla flick. Looking back, it's a bad 90's movie and a worse Godzilla movie.
I've always been confused by Toho's approval/disapproval. They approved the design and I've heard they loved it, they approved everything about the script, but then shit on it when it came out. I guess that's just shrouded in mystery and no one will ever truly know how they feel.
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It was probably less of them "loving it" and more of them having a big budget American movie in production for years with no results. Dean and Roland would only do the job if they had complete control and Toho wanted to get the film off the ground after all the production trouble that happened with Jan De Bont.scottzilla wrote:This movie came out when I was 6 years old, and I remember just being so stoked that we got an American made Godzilla flick. Looking back, it's a bad 90's movie and a worse Godzilla movie.
I've always been confused by Toho's approval/disapproval. They approved the design and I've heard they loved it, they approved everything about the script, but then shit on it when it came out. I guess that's just shrouded in mystery and no one will ever truly know how they feel.
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According to The Big Book of Japanese Monster Movies: The Lost Films about the Tristar sequel, Amy Pascal (that same evil witch that wants to make Spider-Man villain movies), said that if a film makes more than its budget it gets a sequel, qoute "its that simple". Everywhere there is bad ideas with Sony she is involved. Still glad this film never got a sequel.
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I love this movie and it is my favorite Godzilla movie. I have watched it at lest 3 times a month since the VHS then DVD came out. Doing the math I'd say I have seen Godzilla 98 at least 684 times!
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I don't know what happened -- maybe my taste is getting worse, maybe I stopped being so influenced by popular sentiment, maybe G14 made me go easier on G98 since it was no longer the only American G film -- but when I picked up G98 on Blu-ray for five bucks to fill the gap in my collection, I found myself not hating it at all when I graced it with a rewatch.
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Oddly enough, I find the idea of a sequel to this intriguing. It would've given us a monster for Zilla to fight, so that could have been cool if nothing else. And I have heard that the baby Zilla was intended to be more Godzilla-like upon growing up. I do like Zilla's design and do see where they were coming from in terms of redesigning Godzilla. Have him stand upright more and use a breath ray (which is what the cartoon did) and you've got yourself something decent.
Still for the best that a sequel never got made, though. My biggest issue with this film is the bland characters, and I don't have much faith that a sequel would've given us better.
Still for the best that a sequel never got made, though. My biggest issue with this film is the bland characters, and I don't have much faith that a sequel would've given us better.
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I will say that the cartoon was legit. It felt like Godzilla. If the original film had been anything like that, I think it would have been more well received.
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I find it funny that not only did they mess up Godzilla but they also in a way messed up Minilla and Godzilla Jr.
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Anyone starting to find this film much more forgivable now that we'll have a different origin Anime Godzilla film and Shin Godzilla (another new origin film). If you look at it that way, it's now all that terrible.
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I was just thinking of this the other day I still feel the design looks pretty awful for a Godzilla, and how he's so easily able to be killed. But a giant irradiated iguana seems pretty tame to what we've gotten so far. It was never the origin that really bothered me for this incarnation, so much as it was its design and powers (or lack thereof).Cookson wrote:Anyone starting to find this film much more forgivable now that we'll have a different origin Anime Godzilla film and Shin Godzilla (another new origin film). If you look at it that way, it's now all that terrible.
/crawls back under rockMecha M wrote:[after seeing Shin Godzilla's design] Looks like partially cooked carne asada
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Not really considering the "origin" wasn't what was wrong with Godzilla 1998...Cookson wrote:Anyone starting to find this film much more forgivable now that we'll have a different origin Anime Godzilla film and Shin Godzilla (another new origin film). If you look at it that way, it's now all that terrible.
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The existence of those other movies doesn't improve the quality of the writing or direction of an existing one. It is still as badly told a story now as it was in 1998.Cookson wrote:Anyone starting to find this film much more forgivable now that we'll have a different origin Anime Godzilla film and Shin Godzilla (another new origin film). If you look at it that way, it's now all that terrible.
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^^^ Yeah, 98 is still an incredibly cynical, disrespectful flick.
Moogabunga wrote:Ive said it before and I'll gladly say it again, this is going to be the best Godzilla film ever and more importantly, its going to be the film that truly makes Godzilla mainstream (and cool)
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