What are they keeping from us?

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Re: What are they keeping from us?

Postby TokyoVigilante » Mon May 16, 2011 9:49 am

tenup wrote:If toho were so anal about what goes and what doesn't then why did they approve anything done with Tristars version (which many would say they made it their own)

That was the third Tristar backed Godzilla project since what, the late eighties? Toho already dragged their Heisei films out longer then intended and Tristar already put millions of dollars into preproduction of an American Godzilla film. Toho wanted an American Godzilla project but they were increasingly in a position not to haggle; it was a take it or leave it situation.

and some of the moves that were used in the atari games?

What about them? They're there because Toho approved them.

Toho no longer produces Godzilla on their own so I doubt they will be fussy

Thats exactly a reason TO be fussy. They aren't establishing "their" Godzilla cinematically anymore and since Godzilla is their character and property, they have every right to dictate how that property is handled. Consisdering the hoops that IDW and Atari (and Tristar in the past) have jumped through AND the previous American Godzilla project, they're going to be as anal as ever.

And should I ad that this is suppose to be a re introduction to the charactor so there will be some forceful changes which toho may be willing to agree upon for an overall improvement.

And Toho will want this reintroduction to be as proper and as faithful as possible.
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Re: What are they keeping from us?

Postby tenup » Mon May 16, 2011 10:10 am

Don't get me started on attari. The moves and handling of the monsters were poorly done. Everything from monsters lifting and hurling buildings to Godzillas spinarooni tail whip was stuff that I would think toho would want taken out of the game considering this isn't the depiction we ever had of the monster. The games were decent but elements like the ones mentioned made it silly. Check out Mechas break dancing and tell me attari didn't have fun and freedom doing what they wanted with tohos monsters.
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Re: What are they keeping from us?

Postby Crocodile » Mon May 16, 2011 10:12 am

Check out Mechas break dancing and tell me attari didn't have fun and freedom doing what they wanted with tohos monsters.


Break Dancin' MechaGodzilla was hilariously awesome
Why are you complaining about a good thing?

The games were decent but elements like the ones mentioned made it silly.


They were games about giant monsters fighting, how serious could they be?
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Re: What are they keeping from us?

Postby tenup » Mon May 16, 2011 10:23 am

How dare you croco. I for one happen to take the giant monster attacking civilization theme very seriously. Is Godzilla a joke to you? If so you're missing the point. This is what I don't get, a movie character that's suppose to be taken seriously and sooo protected by the company it spawns from yet this kind of stuff flies.
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Re: What are they keeping from us?

Postby TokyoVigilante » Mon May 16, 2011 10:28 am

It's a straight forward fighting game with Monsters; its primary goal is to entertain not educate. Godzilla and his overall shared universe IS cheesy. Trying to ignore that or somehow brush it all aside instead of trying to work with it for a modern portrayal will just give us GINO 2. That doesn't mean Godzilla should fly or talk but it doesn't mean Godzilla should be so savagely evil and straight-faced and hateful that you just make it unappealing.
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Re: What are they keeping from us?

Postby Crocodile » Mon May 16, 2011 10:33 am

How dare you croco.


Because Break Dancing MechaGodzilla is and always will be awesome.

Is Godzilla a joke to you? If so you're missing the point.


He might have warrented being taken seriously 100%, nearly 60 years ago, but not after a bunch of silly movies. He kind of is, some of our fondest memories of Godzilla are some of the cheesiest movies around.
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Re: What are they keeping from us?

Postby tenup » Mon May 16, 2011 1:01 pm

I get what you're saying Tokyo and yes it was a straight forward fighting game. But I was making the point that toho doesn't restrict every last thing that another company using the license for the character does. And croco I do understand that the Godzillas universe has used cheesy themes but can we all move along and not perceive Godzilla as being just that a cheesy theme? Btw I would much had rather a Godzilla survivor horror game than a fighting game. Especially at the time survivor horror was a popular genre in the gaming industry.

I guess I just see Godzilla in a different light overall.
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Re: What are they keeping from us?

Postby Legion1979 » Mon May 16, 2011 4:57 pm

Didn't you guys hear? They finished the movie a month ago. They're just waiting until 2013 to release it just to piss all of you off.
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Re: What are they keeping from us?

Postby Godzilla 2000 » Mon May 16, 2011 5:42 pm

Legion1979 wrote:Didn't you guys hear? They finished the movie a month ago. They're just waiting until 2013 to release it just to piss all of you off.


Not only that, they're already working on the sequel.

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Re: What are they keeping from us?

Postby Primevalgodzilla V2 » Mon May 16, 2011 7:14 pm

How dare you croco. I for one happen to take the giant monster attacking civilization theme very seriously. Is Godzilla a joke to you? If so you're missing the point. This is what I don't get, a movie character that's suppose to be taken seriously and sooo protected by the company it spawns from yet this kind of stuff flies.


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Re: What are they keeping from us?

Postby Hellspawn28 » Mon May 16, 2011 7:18 pm

HeiseiGodzilla117 wrote:
Hellspawn28 wrote:Either they have been working on it for a long time or they where working on it and not any more.


Tell me, HS. Exactly what are you basing this assumption on? Making a film is far more complex than we can comprehend. There are an infinite number of possibilities for the lack of news at the moment. It's nothing to worry about.


I see it happen with movies before where they release info once in a while and the movie ends up never gets made (JP4, the Spawn reboot, Evangelion live action, and · American McGee's Alice: The Movie for example).
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Re: What are they keeping from us?

Postby HeiseiGodzilla117 » Mon May 16, 2011 7:57 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:
HeiseiGodzilla117 wrote:
Hellspawn28 wrote:Either they have been working on it for a long time or they where working on it and not any more.


Tell me, HS. Exactly what are you basing this assumption on? Making a film is far more complex than we can comprehend. There are an infinite number of possibilities for the lack of news at the moment. It's nothing to worry about.


I see it happen with movies before where they release info once in a while and the movie ends up never gets made (JP4, the Spawn reboot, Evangelion live action, and · American McGee's Alice: The Movie for example).


And tell me, how many movies that have actually been released didn't go through silent phases? It's nothing out of the ordinary. Don't worry about it, dude.
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Re: What are they keeping from us?

Postby Huan_of_Valinor » Tue May 17, 2011 11:59 am

Legion1979 wrote:Didn't you guys hear? They finished the movie a month ago. They're just waiting until 2013 to release it just to piss all of you off.


this made me smile :mrgreen:

seriously, IF they are keeping anything secret, we'll probably get told something at Comic Con

If not, then we'll just have to wait.

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Re: What are they keeping from us?

Postby tenup » Tue May 17, 2011 12:09 pm

They are keeping this on the hush no doubt. If I'm wrong and nothing is revealed at comic con then I will never post on this forum ever again.
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Re: What are they keeping from us?

Postby Living Corpse » Tue May 17, 2011 12:16 pm

I've said it once, I'll say it again. They ain't hiding shit. There probably still just looking for some to just write the damn script.
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Re: What are they keeping from us?

Postby Godzilla 1995 » Tue May 17, 2011 2:05 pm

tenup wrote:They are keeping this on the hush no doubt. If I'm wrong and nothing is revealed at comic con then I will never post on this forum ever again.



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Re: What are they keeping from us?

Postby Showa Gyaos » Tue May 17, 2011 5:29 pm

I'm still pulling for a 2013 release, as opposed to 2012.
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Re: What are they keeping from us?

Postby tenup » Tue May 17, 2011 5:37 pm

PM me your email if you want me to present a artistic concept of what Godzilla might look like. Or possibly what he will look like? Keep in mind its only the skull part of the creature.
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Re: What are they keeping from us?

Postby TokyoVigilante » Tue May 17, 2011 5:40 pm

Why don't you post it in the Art section?
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Re: What are they keeping from us?

Postby tenup » Tue May 17, 2011 5:57 pm

I'm unable to Tokyo but I can send you the pic. This is exclusive material.
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