SomeknowmeasXeno wrote:They're listed in the game's data: not official sources. They also do not match their previous appearances or the physical traits of Super forms period.
Is there an official source that says they aren't Super Tails and Super Knuckles?
Super Sonic's appearances changes all the time. His eyes used to be green, now they're red. His back spines used to point upwards, now they don't. In SA he had a gold sphere around him, now we don't see it. Classic Super Knuckles only has a slightly different appearance from his normal form, Heroes Super Knuckles isn't that big a change. Super Tails lacks his entourage of Super Flickies in Heroes, but that's easily explained as Flickies are absent in Heroes, and would serve no purpose in the boss fight since Metal Overlord is only vulnerable to Team Blast (that, and Super Tails isn't necessarily followed by Flickies all the time, they're not with him during Tails ending in S3&K for example). Without the Flickies Super Tails is pretty hard to distinguish from regular Tails; hence, adding the gold barrier isn't a big change. In either characters' case, the cosmetic update for Sonic Heroes is pretty minor, essentially the same kind of update Super Sonic received in SA.
After all, the way Team Sonic transforms in Heroes is the same as what happens at the end of Next Gen, and nobody questions if Super Shadow was Super Shadow.
SomeknowmeasXeno wrote:Even after Sonic pulled off Chaos Control it took a lot out of him, and is probably why he canonically lost the fight to Shadow afterwards (Final Story shows the cannon was not destroyed and Eggman activated it without any problems, leading to Gerald's colony-drop scheme coming into effect) as he was still recovering. When Silver used Chaos Control, without ever seeing it demonstrated unlike Sonic, he was perfectly fine: it didn't put a strain on him at all.
No, Sonic won that fight and stopped the cannon from firing.
Remember the Eclipse Cannon was already counting down to fire at the Earth when Sonic went to stop it. If he failed, the shot being prepped would have fired before anything else happened.
Also remember that Eggman only gets the final Chaos Emerald in the Hero story, while Tails and Amy are distracted by Sonic wrecking the Eclipse Cannon. If that didn't happen, Eggman wouldn't have gotten the Emerald at all.
Also, Shadow threatened to take Sonic's life. Obviously he didn't win if Sonic is still alive. Even the Dark story gives no indication that Shadow won, it just jumps to Eggman with the Emerald he got in the Hero story.
Sonic was only mildly dizzy for a few seconds after using Chaos Control to get away from the exploding escape pod (he's already under extreme stress when he first tried it; there's no particular reason to assume the technique itself caused his strain) and he was immediately able to perform Chaos Control effortlessly in the fight right after that.