Jet Jaguar updated for modern times?

[Showa Gyaos]

You know, I just found this today:



A very strange coincidence.

[Inferno Rodan]

I'm amazed by how many people actually took my Gundam post seriously.

[Killswitch]

Maybe have Jet Jaguar be a giant megazord type deal with a smaller robot that pilots it.

I'm thinking the opposite. JJ should remain human size, and either pilots the larger robot(JJ2) or JJ's program is tranferred into JJ2's.

[Tohosaurus]

Some kind of giant humanoid type like Ultraman, Zone Fighter, or Jet Jaguar would be cool again for some kind of series. I also think the Gaira (OT) plot allows for some kind of sequel too.

[Killswitch]

Some kind of giant humanoid type like Ultraman, Zone Fighter, or Jet Jaguar would be cool again for some kind of series. I also think the Gaira (OT) plot allows for some kind of sequel too.

I'm not a fan of the giant humanoid. Its fine for Ultraman, but I want the Godzilla franchise to stay away from that style. I prefer giant robots.

[Tohosaurus]

I'm not a fan of the giant humanoid. Its fine for Ultraman, but I want the Godzilla franchise to stay away from that style. I prefer giant robots.

I believe you misunderstood my post. When I said for a series I mean a new series, non-Godzilla.

[Killswitch]

I'm not a fan of the giant humanoid. Its fine for Ultraman, but I want the Godzilla franchise to stay away from that style. I prefer giant robots.

I believe you misunderstood my post. When I said for a series I mean a new series, non-Godzilla.

Sorry for the mis-read! I'm fine with that, as long as its better than Ultraman - better effects, and overall quality. What do you think?
I actually wouldn't mind a giant humanoid type show set in the Godzilla Universe, as long as Godzilla isn't in it. Would be cool to see Gigan, Megalon and some new monsters.

[Tohosaurus]

Sorry for the mis-read! I'm fine with that, as long as its better than Ultraman - better effects, and overall quality. What do you think?
I actually wouldn't mind a giant humanoid type show set in the Godzilla Universe, as long as Godzilla isn't in it. Would be cool to see Gigan, Megalon and some new monsters.

It's all good. Perhaps I should've been clearer.

I hear ya on the humanoid thing. Maybe a movie trilogy or something would be kind of fun. Some form of humanoid for the 21st century would be good fun. Toho did a few monster movies/shows that I'd like to see brought back. Gargantuas are another considering how his flesh can create new Gargantuas. Some new "birth of Japan) film would be good, because Toho's two attempts have been poorly reviewed (although I haven't seen either, so I can't actually say myself). I actually have Atragon on order, but I'm not really interested in the 1995 animated version, so some modern day remake might be interesting. In fact, maybe not a remake but something that still includes Manda as a sort of god to a civilization or whatever.

That's a start.

[Killswitch]

Sorry for the mis-read! I'm fine with that, as long as its better than Ultraman - better effects, and overall quality. What do you think?
I actually wouldn't mind a giant humanoid type show set in the Godzilla Universe, as long as Godzilla isn't in it. Would be cool to see Gigan, Megalon and some new monsters.

It's all good. Perhaps I should've been clearer.

I hear ya on the humanoid thing. Maybe a movie trilogy or something would be kind of fun. Some form of humanoid for the 21st century would be good fun. Toho did a few monster movies/shows that I'd like to see brought back. Gargantuas are another considering how his flesh can create new Gargantuas. Some new "birth of Japan) film would be good, because Toho's two attempts have been poorly reviewed (although I haven't seen either, so I can't actually say myself). I actually have Atragon on order, but I'm not really interested in the 1995 animated version, so some modern day remake might be interesting. In fact, maybe not a remake but something that still includes Manda as a sort of god to a civilization or whatever.

That's a start.

Those are some good ideas. I'm sort of surprised a new live action Atragon movie or series hasn't been made.

[feekie]

I am probably in the minority, but I don't like anyone "updating" my characters/monsters. I want a real person inside the Godzilla suit and the same goes for JJ. I don't want them animated or computerized. I want them to have a heart and soul, and I don't think that can happen when a person (who may not have even seen their original movies) starts messing around with them. Now, everyone will probably give me a hard time for not being willing to change, but some things are just too sacred!

[TokyoVigilante]

^
That may be so, but a character that was created from a children's "send in your doodle" contest, appeared in one movie, and was so beloved by Toho that he didn't even have a copyright symbol until Atari wanted him for video games, hardly qualifies as "sacred". These under-used Z-list characters (Varan, Dogora, the Yog's, Jet Jaguar, Megalon, etc.) are ripe for refurbishing and should be.

I still maintain that Jet Jaguar is so to ingrained in the standards and tropes of the 1970s to warrant returning in a modern setting.

[Gojira-Fan]

I don't think Jet Jaguar should be brought back at all.

[Tohosaurus]

I want them to have a heart and soul

I feel monsters like 2005's King Kong had a lot of personality. At times he made you smile and when he was killed you felt awful (well, I did, lol). It's all in execution. You can make a man in a suit dull and you can make a computerized animal dull. You can also give both great personality.

Just my opinion.

Now, everyone will probably give me a hard time for not being willing to change, but some things are just too sacred!

Nah, it's all based on opinion after all.

These under-used Z-list characters (Varan, Dogora, the Yog's, Jet Jaguar, Megalon, etc.) are ripe for refurbishing and should be.

I agree with this. That said, with something like Megalon, I wonder if he has so much negative baggage outside of us enthusiasts due to his first appearance that he'd struggle to get off the ground a second time around. I'm not saying he can't, but he might be a bit more challenging than something that tends to be more obscure like Varan, for example. Or am I wrong do you think?

I still maintain that Jet Jaguar is so to ingrained in the standards and tropes of the 1970s to warrant returning in a modern setting.

There is truth in this.

[TokyoVigilante]

I agree with this. That said, with something like Megalon, I wonder if he has so much negative baggage outside of us enthusiasts due to his first appearance that he'd struggle to get off the ground a second time around.

I'd say doubtful. Godzilla vs. Gigan is hardly any classier then Godzilla vs. Megalon (and Gigan has maintained a cult status for decades, despite his low filmography), and Megalon doesn't suffer from any of the trope problems of Jet Jaguar.

A good comparison would be Gamera; his entire Showa era filmography is pretty much unanimously bad (regardless of their entertainment factor, although I'd say Gamera vs. Barugon is on par with what Toho was doing at the time) but that didn't stop audiences from fully embracing and loving the revamp from the Heisei era.

Having a bad reputation is usually better then being an A-list star; people are more willing to open up to remodeling a "bad" monster then they are tinkering with a "good" one.

[NSZ]

Having a bad reputation is usually better then being an A-list star; people are more willing to open up to remodeling a "bad" monster then they are tinkering with a "good" one.

Tell that to Hollywood.

[feekie]

I want them to have a heart and soul

I feel monsters like 2005's King Kong had a lot of personality. At times he made you smile and when he was killed you felt awful (well, I did, lol). It's all in execution. You can make a man in a suit dull and you can make a computerized animal dull. You can also give both great personality.

Just my opinion.

Now, everyone will probably give me a hard time for not being willing to change, but some things are just too sacred!

Nah, it's all based on opinion after all.

These under-used Z-list characters (Varan, Dogora, the Yog's, Jet Jaguar, Megalon, etc.) are ripe for refurbishing and should be.

I agree with this. That said, with something like Megalon, I wonder if he has so much negative baggage outside of us enthusiasts due to his first appearance that he'd struggle to get off the ground a second time around. I'm not saying he can't, but he might be a bit more challenging than something that tends to be more obscure like Varan, for example. Or am I wrong do you think?

I still maintain that Jet Jaguar is so to ingrained in the standards and tropes of the 1970s to warrant returning in a modern setting.

There is truth in this.

I understand and respect everyone's opinion. I admit I am not nearly as well-versed in these characters/monsters as some or even all of you are. But there is nothing I like more than watching an old Godzilla movie. I also confess I like watching the really old Godzilla movies the most -- starting with Gojira which I think is infinitely better than the U.S. version with Raymond Burr. I don't mind subtitles. My least favorite Godzilla was the one with Matthew Broderick. I didn't like the way Godzilla looked.

[King Caesar]

^ What? Are you referring to that imposter that that old fart thought was Godzilla? Ha, that's funny.

[feekie]

I didn't like the way Matthew Broderick looked either! lol!

[King Caesar]

I didn't like the way Matthew Broderick looked either! lol!

He can't help it! I actually thought he was great for that role. I couldn't possibly imagine someone like Harrison Ford or someone being the Tatopolous (or however the hell you spell it) character.

[edgaguirus]

Having a bad reputation is usually better then being an A-list star; people are more willing to open up to remodeling a "bad" monster then they are tinkering with a "good" one.

That is true of films as well. JJ could be brought back if a remake of G vs Megalon were done. That film wouldn't be hard to remake into something you could call good.