Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

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Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Postby Goji » Wed Sep 23, 2015 11:05 am

People always refer to Gigantis as "the dub". It's a full fledged, American version of the film; just like Godzilla King of the Monsters! before it, and John Beck's version of King Kong vs. Godzilla.

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Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Postby Space Hunter M » Wed Sep 23, 2015 11:14 am

Goji wrote:just like Godzilla King of the Monsters! before it, and John Beck's version of King Kong vs. Godzilla.

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Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Postby Pkmatrix » Wed Sep 23, 2015 11:36 am

Space Hunter M wrote:The longest Gigantis goes without some kind of visual edit is 5 minutes, actually.


Really? It's been years since I last watched Gigantis, ever since Classic Media released the Japanese version I never went back to the American. I didn't realize it was so extensively altered.

(Then again, I'm right now trying to reconstructed the US version of Rodan from the Japanese cut and have been amazed at how many little changes they made just within the first five minutes!)

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Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Postby Israha » Wed Sep 23, 2015 1:17 pm

Thanks for response. Bought a DVD with Japanese cut a couple months ago, guess I'm gonna have to watch it, maybe I'll change opinion on my least favourite Showa movie.

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Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Postby Stevo_1985 » Wed Sep 23, 2015 3:58 pm

Israha wrote:Thanks for response. Bought a DVD with Japanese cut a couple months ago, guess I'm gonna have to watch it, maybe I'll change opinion on my least favourite Showa movie.



Least fav showa movie? Ouch. Worse then GR?
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Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Postby Giga Kaiju » Wed Sep 23, 2015 5:18 pm

So, yeah, Gigantis is the one we can agree that is just terrible. The GRA version (original) is at least slightly better than the dub version.
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Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Postby Space Hunter M » Wed Sep 23, 2015 5:26 pm

Giga Kaiju wrote:Gigantis is the one we can agree that is just terrible.

Or you could unironically enjoy both like me.
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Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Postby Giga Kaiju » Wed Sep 23, 2015 5:33 pm

Space Hunter M wrote:
Giga Kaiju wrote:Gigantis is the one we can agree that is just terrible.

Or you could unironically enjoy both like me.


Well, then again, I'm that kind of guy that enjoys EVERY Godzilla movie in some level, and that is not exception. Is just that some people may find it bad and that's fine, but IMO, I don't see the point of calling them so, and that's that. Not even seeing it with a different mindset like you or me and some other people do. :P
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Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Postby Lain Of The Wired » Wed Sep 23, 2015 10:51 pm

Space Hunter M wrote:
Giga Kaiju wrote:Gigantis is the one we can agree that is just terrible.

Or you could unironically enjoy both like me.

There's nothing wrong with that, the Japanese version is slow IMO, but I can watch it and get some enjoyment out of it alright. If it makes any sense, the fact that it's B&W really adds to the enjoyment of it.
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Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Postby Legion1979 » Thu Sep 24, 2015 3:53 am

I don't mind the Japanese version. It was only Toho's second giant monster film, and they were still finding their way. I can't really be too hard on it.

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Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Postby Israha » Thu Sep 24, 2015 12:38 pm

Stevo_1985 wrote:
Israha wrote:Thanks for response. Bought a DVD with Japanese cut a couple months ago, guess I'm gonna have to watch it, maybe I'll change opinion on my least favourite Showa movie.



Least fav showa movie? Ouch. Worse then GR?


Heh, you got me on this one. I keep forgetting that abomination of a movie even exists, watched it once and never came back to it. So GRA is my second least favourite...

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Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Postby Stevo_1985 » Thu Sep 24, 2015 12:45 pm

Israha wrote:
Heh, you got me on this one. I keep forgetting that abomination of a movie even exists, watched it once and never came back to it. So GRA is my second least favourite...



Yes, yes it does. I have a copy. Just for the sake of having a complete set. Its still in the factory shrink wrap.
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Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Postby Giga Kaiju » Thu Sep 24, 2015 8:47 pm

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Space Hunter M wrote:
Giga Kaiju wrote:Gigantis is the one we can agree that is just terrible.

Or you could unironically enjoy both like me.

There's nothing wrong with that, the Japanese version is slow IMO, but I can watch it and get some enjoyment out of it alright. If it makes any sense, the fact that it's B&W really adds to the enjoyment of it.


It kind of does. Some classic way of seeing it. :)
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Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Postby edgaguirus » Tue Nov 10, 2015 10:04 pm

I was watching this last night. It's slow in the middle, but the kaiju are handled well. Anguirus's body language really reads into the character. It clearly reads as an overly agressive monster.
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Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Postby LazerWhale » Thu Dec 03, 2015 3:06 pm

I suppose that this is the best place to ask, so, is this movie worth a purchase?
It's cheap on amazon, and I wondered if it's something worth having.
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Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Postby UltramanGoji » Thu Dec 03, 2015 3:24 pm

LazerWhale wrote:I suppose that this is the best place to ask, so, is this movie worth a purchase?
It's cheap on amazon, and I wondered if it's something worth having.


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LazerWhale wrote:I suppose that this is the best place to ask, so, is this movie worth a purchase?
It's cheap on amazon, and I wondered if it's something worth having.


All the Godzilla movies are worth having, even if you think they're the worst in the franchise.

Okay, guess that question would kind of lead to that answer no matter what. Thanks, though.
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Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

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LazerWhale wrote:I suppose that this is the best place to ask, so, is this movie worth a purchase?
It's cheap on amazon, and I wondered if it's something worth having.


All the Godzilla movies are worth having, even if you think they're the worst in the franchise.

Okay, guess that question would kind of lead to that answer no matter what. Thanks, though.


It's not as bad as everybody makes it out to be. It's an above-average 50's B-movie. Not one of the best in the franchise, but a lot better than it seems.

Also, the DVD has some great commentary and featurettes. I'd definitely recommend it, especially if it's dirt cheap.
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Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Postby Giga Kaiju » Thu Dec 03, 2015 8:03 pm

If you want to get it, do so. It is worth watching even if a couple of times. Or hell, to be able to see it is good enough reason.

It is considered one of the worst, in comparison sure, but it is not downright unwatchable.
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Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Postby LazerWhale » Thu Dec 03, 2015 8:15 pm

I was considering getting it simply for the privilage of seeing what is, to my knowledge, the very first true cinematic kaiju fight within the genre. It's a historical moment, of sorts.
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