Terror of Mechagodzilla Toho Master Collection weirdness?

[Chris55]

I'm tired of people complaining about the tacked on opening credits!! I enjoyed them, and I liked that it was the uncut version rather than the edited version that we got during the 90's.

dude, don't let their complaints bother you.

[omgitsgodzilla]

There would still be an issue with the opening titles, which were unique for UPA TV version.

Also, the schedules and budget for these DVDs were pretty tight, so I'm sure CM was only willing to take things so far.

The credits... Not much of a choice there, obviously. But the preceding several minutes would have been far more watchable. Time/money constraints... I guess I get it, but as far as my video editing experience goes, I don't see how it would be particularly difficult. That said, I am quite happy with what we got, don't get me wrong. I'm just doing my internet geek duty and pointing out how it could have been better

[Legion1979]

The credits... Not much of a choice there, obviously. But the preceding several minutes would have been far more watchable. Time/money constraints... I guess I get it, but as far as my video editing experience goes, I don't see how it would be particularly difficult.

But again...that's not the version people who grew up with the movie saw. The prologue only aired on TV so why would a remastered, widescreen version be appropriate?

[omgitsgodzilla]

The credits... Not much of a choice there, obviously. But the preceding several minutes would have been far more watchable. Time/money constraints... I guess I get it, but as far as my video editing experience goes, I don't see how it would be particularly difficult.

But again...that's not the version people who grew up with the movie saw. The prologue only aired on TV so why would a remastered, widescreen version be appropriate?

Same reason a remastered, widescreen version of the rest of the films is appropriate: It's standard and it looks better.

[The Killer Meteor]

The credits... Not much of a choice there, obviously. But the preceding several minutes would have been far more watchable. Time/money constraints... I guess I get it, but as far as my video editing experience goes, I don't see how it would be particularly difficult.

But again...that's not the version people who grew up with the movie saw. The prologue only aired on TV so why would a remastered, widescreen version be appropriate?

Because it'd be more accurate. And the DVD places a widescreen matte over the 4:3 version!

[Legion1979]

Same reason a remastered, widescreen version of the rest of the films is appropriate: It's standard and it looks better.

Whatever you say. A remastered prologue cobbled together via remastered, widescreen clips wouldn't be the prologue anyone grew up with. It never aired in widescreen and was never intended to air in widescreen. I'm thankful to have it on DVD presented pretty much the way I saw it back in 1986 and I'm pretty sure that was CM's intent.

[Killswitch]

Here's a strange story for you. In my area, Terror of Mechagodzilla was shown on TV before Godzilla vs Mechagodzilla(Godzilla vs the Cosmic Monster).
The first time I saw Godzilla vs Mechagodzilla was at a Saturday Matinee, and the place was packed with kids!

Having seen Terror of Mechagodzilla several times on TV, it gave me some spoilers for G vs MG. Ironic enough, a week after the matinee screening, G vs MG was finally shown on local TV.

[The Dark Uniter]

I don't find anything ''weird'' having the US intro. However, I do wish they use the video sources from All Monsters Attack and Invasion of Astro Monster for the intro since it was in bad shape.

[Goji]

I don't see what the purpose would be of "remastering" the U.S. intro. It uses footage from SEA MONSTER, REVENGE, and MONSTER ZERO, and putting the time and effort into something like that would have been pointless. We should be glad CM bothered to include it at all.

[Legion1979]

I don't see what the purpose would be of "remastering" the U.S. intro. It uses footage from SEA MONSTER, REVENGE, and MONSTER ZERO, and putting the time and effort into something like that would have been pointless. We should be glad CM bothered to include it at all.

THANK YOU.

Anyone suggesting the entire prologue be remastered to match the film quality of the main feature obviously didn't grow up with it.

[The Dark Uniter]

I don't see what the purpose would be of "remastering" the U.S. intro. It uses footage from SEA MONSTER, REVENGE, and MONSTER ZERO, and putting the time and effort into something like that would have been pointless. We should be glad CM bothered to include it at all.

THANK YOU.

Anyone suggesting the entire prologue be remastered to match the film quality of the main feature obviously didn't grow up with it.

You're right about that, I haven't grown up with this version. However, the intro should be presented nicely. Maybe it might be a restoration project for me, who knows.

[Goji]

It's an obscure intro from a TV version of the film that was 1) Never before released to home video, and 2) hadn't been aired on TV in probably over 2 decades. It was probably the best elements that could be located for the intro, so I don't see why it's be a big deal. Like I said, you should be glad it was even included at all.

[Legion1979]

I'd rather see the REAL THING the way it was created and shown on TV back when I was a kid than a phony "restored", cut-and-paste version.

[Tyler]

To be honest I can't even tell the difference. I don't really care. I just want the original Japanese version with subtitles.

[Malchik]

I'd rather see the REAL THING the way it was created and shown on TV back when I was a kid than a phony "restored", cut-and-paste version.

The intro would have never been in such a decayed state when young, even when using stock footage, and it has been cropped quite liberally to match a 2.35:1 ratio. skreeonk, if they were going to add the intro, I'd have prefer them to re-frame the picture to emulate the TV film. You set such conservative values and you don't see the error, or hell, irony?

[Tamura]

Aren't most of CM's US version presentations cut-and-paste jobs in the first place?

Also, CM didn't crop the prologue. They used MonstersHD's 1.78:1 copy since they're too lazy to transfer anything themselves. Assrat blokes...

[Malchik]

Also, CM didn't crop the prologue. They used MonstersHD's 1.78:1 copy since they're too lazy to transfer anything themselves. Assrat blokes...

Gee, and I thought it was a CM exclusive.

[Baradagi]

Also, CM didn't crop the prologue. They used MonstersHD's 1.78:1 copy since they're too lazy to transfer anything themselves. Assrat blokes...

Gee, and I thought it was a CM exclusive.

Back when these discs were in the development stage this is the response given by Steve Vincent at Classic Media...

"2. For the US Versions will you be using UPA's HD masters? What will be the case for Gigantis the Fire Monster (Godzilla Raids Again) and Ghidrah the Three Headed Monster?

UPA never made HD masters, we made them from their available elements and yes, the GRA is a mess. Again, you will find your joy in the Japanese version here."

[Malchik]

I knew they got their Gigantis from Toho. They had a broadcast cassette.

I'm obviously wrong, but I thought kpa said they found a old reel of the American ToMG and used the intro from that.

[Tamura]

I'm obviously wrong, but I thought kpa said they found a old reel of the American ToMG and used the intro from that.

No, you're right, isn't it silly? Someone must have been in a hurry or forgotten about it...