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Re: A Darker Godzilla Film (G2012 Speculation thread)

Postby TokyoVigilante » Sat Mar 05, 2011 6:55 am

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Re: A Darker Godzilla Film (G2012 Speculation thread)

Postby DaiKamonohashi » Sat Mar 05, 2011 11:38 pm

Honestly, I'm really hoping they throw us a curveball and make a movie that fully embraces the unabashed fun and high fantasy of the 60s-era Toho films - something like a cross between Ghidrah the Three-Headed Monster and Godzilla Vs. the Sea Monster. It seems awfully improbable but I think it would be most excellent! XD

Also, is it so wrong to prefer my monsters with at least a bit of mystery surrounding them? That is, it really feels to me like most people around here have this deep desire to see all the monsters get these long explanations detailing the hows and whys of their origin stories while I LOVE the mystery inherent in, say, Godzilla's origin as presented in his first movie or Ghidrah's in his. It is enough for me that Ghidrah is a space-faring destroyer of civilizations without going into much more detail than that. By the same token, I really like how Godzilla's origins are glossed over fairly quickly in the original film because everyone's too damned busy freaking out that he exists at all to even bother figuring out why and how he came about (though Yamane *is* interested). I like the intrinsic mysteries there - leave something to the imagination!
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Re: A Darker Godzilla Film (G2012 Speculation thread)

Postby shinmattiathekaiju » Sun Mar 06, 2011 1:35 am

i want this movie to be like Godzilla vs Biollante in terms of atmospheres and action.

And Ghidorah & Godzilla Vs the Sea Monster are not really fantasy movie but more sci-fi with a James Bond feel to it.
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Re: A Darker Godzilla Film (G2012 Speculation thread)

Postby DaiKamonohashi » Sun Mar 06, 2011 7:17 am

shinmattiathekaiju wrote:And Ghidorah & Godzilla Vs the Sea Monster are not really fantasy movie but more sci-fi with a James Bond feel to it.


You're taking my use of the term fantasy way too literally. Are Japanese giant monsters not fantastical? Fantasy does not have to involve spiritual stuff or magic or sorcery or anything like that, it just entails plots and ideas that are wildly imaginative. Besides, 60s Godzilla fits more under "science fantasy" than "science fiction" anyway.
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Re: A Darker Godzilla Film (G2012 Speculation thread)

Postby KaneLocke » Sun Mar 06, 2011 8:29 am

DaiKamonohashi wrote:Honestly, I'm really hoping they throw us a curveball and make a movie that fully embraces the unabashed fun and high fantasy of the 60s-era Toho films - something like a cross between Ghidrah the Three-Headed Monster and Godzilla Vs. the Sea Monster. It seems awfully improbable but I think it would be most excellent! XD

Yeah, Hollywood doesn't seem to like going that direction too often anymore.
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Re: How would you make a U.S. Godzilla film series?!?

Postby shinmattiathekaiju » Sun Mar 13, 2011 12:35 am

shinmattiathekaiju wrote:Movie 1:Godzilla King Of The Monsters:Godzilla appaers and destroys various parts of the city,the military can't stop him so they create a super bacteria in order to destroy Godzilla but a small alien creature gets infected with the bacteria and then it turns into a Hedora like monster who is more dangerous than Godzilla but Godzilla destroy the new monster and goes back to the ocean chased by the military while a man tells his son:he is the hero that ''name of the city'' deserves but it doens't need him right now,because he is not a real hero,he is the king of the monsters.


Movie 2:Godzilla vs MechaGodzilla:The military creates a Godzilla like robot equiped with super weapons capable of killing Godzilla and a young soldier who has a grudge against Godzilla is hired to pilot MechaGodzilla,the final battle ends with a tie.
Meanwhile a satellite detects a strange looking asteroid that is heading towards the earth.


Movie 3:Godzilla:The Dark Dragon/Godzilla vs King Ghidorah/Godzilla X Rodan X MechaGodzilla:The Advent of King Ghidorah:The asteroid from the previous movie crashes in Arizona and lots of scientist goes to study it,meanwhile,MechaGodzilla is rebuilted and ready to fight Godzilla again and a misterious woman appears and she costantly telling the people that the destroyer of worlds Ghidorah has come.
After that,some miners wakes up a giant pteranodon like monster and then he flies towards the city but Godzilla appaears once again and he fights Rodan.
The asteroid breaks and a 120 meters tall three headed golden dragon came out from the asteroid and it attacks a near city.
The misterious lady with some magic BS achieves to convince Godzilla,Rodan and the pilot of MechaGodzilla to fight together against Ghidorah and save the world.

What do you think about my plots?


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Re: A Darker Godzilla Film (G2012 Speculation thread)

Postby shinmattiathekaiju » Sun Mar 20, 2011 7:12 am

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Ethan wrote: A '70s Godzilla level suffices.


You want the movie to be stupid like Godzilla vs Megalon?


fixed my response tho Ethans.
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Re: Story Ideas

Postby prata101 » Wed Apr 06, 2011 9:12 am

I think that if this is going to be a US/Japan production movie than it should by ALL rights be King Kong vs Godzilla witha a draw in the match for a sequel.
As far as plot:
Godzilla is awaken by an earthquake. Well that's what the people of Japan think it was. Really Godzilla awoke from a nuclear explosion and is trying to set free from rumbles of stone that buried him alive millions of years ago. After several "aftershocks" Godzilla rises!

He awakes and his land of prehistoric jungles and monsters are gone, here he finds a concrete city and he disoriented hungry and looking for food.

After a devastation in Japan he swims away and goes ashore on different country's looking for food but the concrete cities only anger him more leaving devastation behind.
Finally he arrives in US shores.
US scientists soon realize that King Kong a giant ape hidden in an underground secret lab created 50 years ago using genetically enhanced hormones in the Las Vegas desert might be the ONLY weapon they have to defeat Godzilla.

Godzilla's fine sense of smell leads him to Kong in the desert where the battle for survival end near the city where they are both left for dead and picked up by the US military and harbored without the general public knowledge that they are both still alive.... PART 2...

The End.

What do you guys think of my plot?
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Re: Story Ideas

Postby Living Corpse » Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:24 am

^ You're naive and still have much to learn. Oh and we already have a story topic. ;)

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Re: Story Ideas

Postby NSZ » Wed Apr 06, 2011 11:01 am

prata101 wrote:I think that if this is going to be a US/Japan production movie than it should by ALL rights be King Kong vs Godzilla witha a draw in the match for a sequel.
As far as plot:
Godzilla is awaken by an earthquake. Well that's what the people of Japan think it was. Really Godzilla awoke from a nuclear explosion and is trying to set free from rumbles of stone that buried him alive millions of years ago. After several "aftershocks" Godzilla rises!

He awakes and his land of prehistoric jungles and monsters are gone, here he finds a concrete city and he disoriented hungry and looking for food.

After a devastation in Japan he swims away and goes ashore on different country's looking for food but the concrete cities only anger him more leaving devastation behind.
Finally he arrives in US shores.
US scientists soon realize that King Kong a giant ape hidden in an underground secret lab created 50 years ago using genetically enhanced hormones in the Las Vegas desert might be the ONLY weapon they have to defeat Godzilla.

Godzilla's fine sense of smell leads him to Kong in the desert where the battle for survival end near the city where they are both left for dead and picked up by the US military and harbored without the general public knowledge that they are both still alive.... PART 2...

The End.

What do you guys think of my plot?


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Re: Story Ideas

Postby King Caesar » Wed Apr 06, 2011 11:15 am

prata101 wrote:I think that if this is going to be a US/Japan production movie than it should by ALL rights be King Kong vs Godzilla witha a draw in the match for a sequel.
As far as plot:
Godzilla is awaken by an earthquake. Well that's what the people of Japan think it was. Really Godzilla awoke from a nuclear explosion and is trying to set free from rumbles of stone that buried him alive millions of years ago. After several "aftershocks" Godzilla rises!

He awakes and his land of prehistoric jungles and monsters are gone, here he finds a concrete city and he disoriented hungry and looking for food.

After a devastation in Japan he swims away and goes ashore on different country's looking for food but the concrete cities only anger him more leaving devastation behind.
Finally he arrives in US shores.
US scientists soon realize that King Kong a giant ape hidden in an underground secret lab created 50 years ago using genetically enhanced hormones in the Las Vegas desert might be the ONLY weapon they have to defeat Godzilla.

Godzilla's fine sense of smell leads him to Kong in the desert where the battle for survival end near the city where they are both left for dead and picked up by the US military and harbored without the general public knowledge that they are both still alive.... PART 2...

The End.

What do you guys think of my plot?


This has some faults. Any buildup in Japanese characters or set-ups would hold totally irrelevant to the plot at band. Maybe skip over the whole japan stuff and just go with him arriving in the US. And Kong being our ONLY hope kinda irks me in that way that I don't want to be irked. :| Basically, I don't like it...
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Re: Story Ideas

Postby shinmattiathekaiju » Thu Apr 07, 2011 11:37 am

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Re: Story Ideas

Postby Eunectes » Sun Apr 10, 2011 4:56 pm

Godzilla : 2014 (60th Anniversary Film) Plot

This movie is a sequel to Godzilla Giant Monsters All Out Attack.

5 Years after the "death" of Godzilla, the heart fully regenerated into the beast we all cherished. In the beginning of the film we see hints of a "White Godzilla" in little bits of the intro which will later be revealed as Ghost Godzilla, the original 1954 Godzilla which in the beginning of the movie romaing Tokyo while still traditionally ignoring Military attacks, the US Gouvernment flown into involvment planning to launch a nuclear attack at Ghost Godzilla but unfortunately was interrupted by the PM of Japan requesting that they don't want the same events of Hiroshima happening in Japan. Meanwhile, as Ghost Godzilla enters the Pacific Ocean and resting waiting to strike another day.

Hours after, Yuri still being a news reporter, reports the events happening treating it just like her past events, unfortunately there is no Guardian Monsters to stop this new creature. She believes Ghost Godzilla represents, just like the 1954 Godzilla, the atomic bomb that hit Hiroshima and that other place (sorry I forgot the name), symboising the bomb itself. 40 minutes into the movie, Godzilla finally arrives ashore destroying most of Sendai making way to Tokyo, meanwhile in Odo Island a little Godzilla has been found roaming around able to fire a small Atomic Breath for protection, instead of kidnapping this creature like SpaceGodzilla did, Ghost Godzilla decided to supposedly kill the creature itself, but it was later revealed that it was playing dead, but was mortally wounded. So Ghost Godzilla arrives at Tokyo, meeting Godzilla as the protagonist Yuri was reporting events and her father deploys military tanks to attack both creatures, but was destroyed easily by Ghost Godzilla throwing Godzilla into the military.

The climax is supposingly, Godzilla firing his Red Spiral Ray against Ghost Godzilla firing his very own Oxygen Destroyer Ray. As both creatures have the same roar, the explosion was huge, destroying most of Tokyo, in the end the screen turns black and we hear a roar from one of the creatures but it is unknown which creature roared.
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Re: Story Ideas

Postby Living Corpse » Sun Apr 10, 2011 4:59 pm

Eunectes wrote:Godzilla : 2014 (60th Anniversary Film) Plot

This movie is a sequel to Godzilla Giant Monsters All Out Attack.


I strongly disapprove.

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Re: Story Ideas

Postby Eunectes » Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:00 pm

Living Corpse wrote:
Eunectes wrote:Godzilla : 2014 (60th Anniversary Film) Plot

This movie is a sequel to Godzilla Giant Monsters All Out Attack.


I strongly disapprove.

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Then maybe a Toho Movie? I didn't post it in the Millenium page cuz I already posted a past plot and didn't want to double post.
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Re: Story Ideas

Postby HeiseiGodzilla117 » Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:20 pm

^Dude, that's basically fan fiction. Just put it in the fan fiction section.
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Re: Story Ideas

Postby Eunectes » Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:25 pm

HeiseiGodzilla117 wrote:^Dude, that's basically fan fiction. Just put it in the fan fiction section.

Well isn't it a thread of story ideas?
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Re: Story Ideas

Postby Living Corpse » Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:28 pm

Eunectes wrote:
HeiseiGodzilla117 wrote:^Dude, that's basically fan fiction. Just put it in the fan fiction section.

Well isn't it a thread of story ideas?


This movie is not going to be a sequal to GMK. Hell this movie might not even mention G54 at all, I'd be a little surprised if it did say anything about 1954. This is going to be a stand alone project that Toho is letting the U.S.A. do.
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Re: Story Ideas

Postby Eunectes » Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:29 pm

Living Corpse wrote:
Eunectes wrote:
HeiseiGodzilla117 wrote:^Dude, that's basically fan fiction. Just put it in the fan fiction section.

Well isn't it a thread of story ideas?


This movie is not going to be a sequal to GMK. Hell this movie might not even mention G54 at all, I'd be a little surprised if it did say anything about 1954. This is going to be a stand alone project that Toho is letting the US do.

Alright >_>
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Re: Story Ideas

Postby HeiseiGodzilla117 » Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:31 pm

Eunectes wrote:
HeiseiGodzilla117 wrote:^Dude, that's basically fan fiction. Just put it in the fan fiction section.

Well isn't it a thread of story ideas?


Yes, story ideas. Not whole outlines of a plot. That belongs in the fan fiction section.
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