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Postby mecha-gino » Tue Feb 01, 2011 3:49 pm

Since childhood we would have these ideas of 2 or more characters from different worlds meeting up with each other to fight or team up with each other. From Godzilla vs Power Rangers, to transformers vs gundams we've had these ideas. Now most of the time we've seen these crossovers in comics, mainly because it's a lot cheaper then producing the actual product as a movie or television series so naturally the world of comics is FLOODED with them. Some are good and some are bad. Some are famous, while others are obescure. So let's discuss crossovers and tell us some of your favorites ones. I would like to see ideas for crossovers as well, but to make it interesting let's hear why you think these characters/world should meet this said characters/world and how you would think it would work.

Now one of the most famous ones was originally going to be a movie. Yes, Spider-man and Superman were going to crossover in the world of cinema first but the idea got cancelled because of the live action Superman film being made, so instead we got this legendary comic.
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It's a fun book but the team up could of been a little better, but it worked for it's time. Obviously Spider-man and Superman don't exist in the same universe and this idea has been explored in future crossovers one of which is technically canon if you look deep into it even though they say it isn't.

We've also got this crossover which I feel has been overlooked
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Granted it's been collected into trade and junk but usually I don't hear a lot about this one and I actually enjoyed it more then the other one. I like it how they used Parasite and Dr. Doom as a team, even though it seems random but what I like a lot about this issue is that we get Superman vs Hulk... Course this is Pre-Crisis Superman taking on your ordinary angry hulk so natually Hulk did deliver some good blows to supes until he managed to stand up to it and pretty much own him with a few hits. Pre-Crisis Superman everybody, so Godmodded that not even the hulk can take him down.

Now I want to talk about this one crossover I just read, that in no way shape or form should work but manages to have a great story. I'm talking about Robocop vs Terminator.
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I love Walter Simonson's cover of it and the art of his just kicks ass and this will be the first time I'll say something about the colorists. GOOD skreeonk JOB, my God do I love the colors on the terminators and robocop. Rachelle Menashe and Steve Oliff, I commend you and now I want to find more of Dark Horse's Terminator stuff regardless of it sucking or not. Basically the plot is Robocop is the reason why skynet went all crazy and killed everyone and now they have to stop everything from happening and junk. It's written by Frank Miller before his "Crazy days", so it's great and fun fact: Miller helped write the script for Robocop 2 and his original script was also translated into a comic book. The book is an absolute blast but it's one of the weirdest species of graphic novel I have ever seen. It's got adds and paper cuts out stuff, but then again this is an OLD graphic novel I managed to find at my library. If they ever bring it back into print, you HAVE to check it out if you are a terminator or Robocop fan.

And that's about it folk, so tell us your stories about you and crossovers.
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Re: Crossovers

Postby Malchik » Tue Feb 01, 2011 3:54 pm

They're pretty much spawned out of lack of creativity and desire for quick sales.
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Re: Crossovers

Postby mecha-gino » Tue Feb 01, 2011 4:15 pm

Malchik wrote:They're pretty much spawned out of lack of creativity and desire for quick sales.

Sounds like you are talking about IDW's infestation. OH!

Yeah, stuff like Superman vs Terminator and Alien vs Predator vs Terminator fit that bill.

To this day, I wonder how they could skreeonk up an awesome idea like AVPVT.
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Re: Crossovers

Postby HeiseiGodzilla117 » Tue Feb 01, 2011 4:16 pm

I've never had a chance to read the superman/spidey crossovers. Are they worth looking for?
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Re: Crossovers

Postby Hellspawn28 » Tue Feb 01, 2011 4:18 pm

I enjoy crossovers since they are fun to read but I think some people take them too serious. Most of them are made for money and fun, I mean no Xeno would be strong enough to hurt Hal Jordan in a real fight. Or a Predator would be strong enough to hurt Superman.

I enjoy the Marvel and DC crossovers from the 90's as a kid and I still enjoy them today. I want to see if I can find some paper backs of them soon.
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Re: Crossovers

Postby mecha-gino » Tue Feb 01, 2011 4:19 pm

HeiseiGodzilla117 wrote:I've never had a chance to read the superman/spidey crossovers. Are they worth looking for?

They aren't like Watchmen caliber comics but they're fun books for their time and I've read worse. So sure, as long as you have a softspot for those late 70's/early 80's comics that aren't that dark and gritty as some comics are today. You can find the first volume of the DC and Marvel crossovers on amazon for a reasonable price.
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Re: Crossovers

Postby Hellspawn28 » Tue Feb 01, 2011 4:21 pm

I remember there was a Batman vs. The Hulk crossover before. I think it was a team up with The Joker and General Ross from what I can remember.
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Re: Crossovers

Postby mecha-gino » Tue Feb 01, 2011 4:26 pm

Now if anyone wants to see more modern DC and Marvel crossovers, then Vol 2 - 4 are for you. My favorite is vol 4 and it just happens to be the one that's the easiet to find with my experience.
Hellspawn28 wrote:I remember there was a Batman vs. The Hulk crossover before. I think it was a team up with The Joker and General Ross from what I can remember.

Yeah... that match up never did make sense to me and I never did finish reading it. It was Joker and some all powerful guy from the hulk comics, I can't remember his name shaper of worlds or something. There's this Teen titans X-men crossover I'm quite interested in reading with as I heard Deathstroke is in it and it's Chris Claremont's version of the X-men.

I never got why Alien vs Predator got made into a movie, but Robocop vs Terminator didn't. It can work out SOOO well and be SOOO awesome.
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Re: Crossovers

Postby HeiseiGodzilla117 » Tue Feb 01, 2011 4:28 pm

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HeiseiGodzilla117 wrote:I've never had a chance to read the superman/spidey crossovers. Are they worth looking for?

They aren't like Watchmen caliber comics but they're fun books for their time and I've read worse. So sure, as long as you have a softspot for those late 70's/early 80's comics that aren't that dark and gritty as some comics are today. You can find the first volume of the DC and Marvel crossovers on amazon for a reasonable price.


I might pick em up. I personally enjoy all the comic eras, so they can be wacky or gritty or whatever and I usually enjoy it... as long as it's not stupid.

While we're talking about crossovers, everyone here is familiar with the DC vs Marvel crossover where there were 2 entities each representing their respective comic universe and they pitted their superheroes against eachother. But what did everyone think about the fact that Supes beat Thor? Sure it was a damn good fight but REALLY? I'm sorry but Thor should never lose (though he often does in Marvel anyways) against aliens, humans, mutants, or any normal heroes. He's a GOD! Only another God or something should be able to beat him. Thoughts?
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Re: Crossovers

Postby Hellspawn28 » Tue Feb 01, 2011 4:29 pm

Robocop and Terminator both live in two totaly different timelines. Seeing the whole Judgment day thing started in 2004 from what I can remember. I think the Superman vs. Spider-Man movie would have been the biggest movie crossover since King Kong vs. Godzilla at the time.
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Re: Crossovers

Postby Tyler » Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:09 pm

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Re: Crossovers

Postby Hellspawn28 » Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:15 pm

Hard to believe there was no Marvel crossovers with AVP. I mean we got Superman, Hal, and Batman fighting Aliens and Predators but no Marvel superheros. You would think a Thor vs. Aliens, Wolverine vs. Predator, Spider-Man vs. Predator, The Hulk vs. Predator or Aliens, and F4 vs. Aliens would have been made back in the 90's.
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Re: Crossovers

Postby wataru » Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:24 pm

Honestly, if you want to read GOOD crossovers, they have to be smaller press.

Robocop vs Terminator is the SHIT!
Anything Aliens vs Predator (save AvPvT)

But if you want some sleeper crossovers?

Judge Dredd vs Batman
Judge Dredd vs Aliens.
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Re: Crossovers

Postby mecha-gino » Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:28 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:Robocop and Terminator both live in two totaly different timelines. Seeing the whole Judgment day thing started in 2004 from what I can remember.

I know, and even though the book ignores that it is still great which is quite funny. Unless if you look really into it and it turns out to be a split timeline or something, like because of the events of T2 judgement day doesn't happen until the creation of robocop interfacing with skynet.

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HeiseiGodzilla117 wrote:I've never had a chance to read the superman/spidey crossovers. Are they worth looking for?

They aren't like Watchmen caliber comics but they're fun books for their time and I've read worse. So sure, as long as you have a softspot for those late 70's/early 80's comics that aren't that dark and gritty as some comics are today. You can find the first volume of the DC and Marvel crossovers on amazon for a reasonable price.


I might pick em up. I personally enjoy all the comic eras, so they can be wacky or gritty or whatever and I usually enjoy it... as long as it's not stupid.

While we're talking about crossovers, everyone here is familiar with the DC vs Marvel crossover where there were 2 entities each representing their respective comic universe and they pitted their superheroes against eachother. But what did everyone think about the fact that Supes beat Thor? Sure it was a damn good fight but REALLY? I'm sorry but Thor should never lose (though he often does in Marvel anyways) against aliens, humans, mutants, or any normal heroes. He's a GOD! Only another God or something should be able to beat him. Thoughts?


Well then, go at it then. Some of the later stuff like the Superman FF crossover and the Batman Spider-man crossover are really fun.

Well... STFU ya Butthurt smelly fanboy. :D Hehe, the battle was damn good but keep in mind they both fought to the point of exhaustion with superman pushing all he can to fight someone with his weaknesses while Thor fights a powerful being on par with him. Wonderman and I believe count nefaria(Stan and Jack's evil superman) defeated Thor as well. Keep in mind when it comes to gods in both DC and Marvel, they get dumbed down a bit for a reason, but I got a crossover that tops the god of thunder taking on the man of steel....

JESUS VS THE GREEK/ROMAN GODS!
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@Tyler: I want to read that, but I got one to top that.... Batman vs H.P. Lovecraft done by Hellboy's creator! :D
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Re: Crossovers

Postby Hellspawn28 » Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:42 pm

I enjoy the Judge Dreed crossover with Batman and Predator as well. Image Comics had a few crossovers with DC, Marvel, Valiant Comics, and Aliens as well. The crossovers with Image Comics where (From What I can remember):

Angela/Glory: Rage of Angels
Batman/Spawn
Battle of the Planets/Witchblade
Cyberforce/X-Men
Cyberforce/Ash from Evil Dead
Gen 13 vs. Aliens
Gen 13 vs. Generation X
Gen 13/Fantastic Four
Gen 13/JLA
Savage Dragon/Hellboy
Savage Dragon/Destroyer Duck
Superman/Gen 13
Savage Dragon/Marshal Law
Superman/Savage Dragon: Metropolis
Superman/Madman
Superman/The Darkness
Spider-Man/Gen 13
Supereme vs. Gladiator
Shadowhawk/Vampirella
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles/Savage Dragon
The Darkness vs. The Hulk
The Darkness vs. Ghost Rider
The Darkness/Vampirella
Painkiller Jane vs. The Darkness
Witch Blade and The Darkness vs. Aliens and Predator
Witch Blade vs. The Punisher
Witch Blade vs. Wolverine
WildC.A.T.s vs. Aliens
WildC.A.T.s/X-Men
WildC.A.T.s/Valiant Comics' version of Solar
Youngblood/Thundercats
Youngblood/X-Force

I only read half of those crossovers. I think the Batman vs. Spawn crossover was okay.
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Re: Crossovers

Postby HeiseiGodzilla117 » Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:47 pm

mecha-gino wrote:Well... STFU ya Butthurt sexy fanboy. Hehe, the battle was damn good but keep in mind they both fought to the point of exhaustion with superman pushing all he can to fight someone with his weaknesses while Thor fights a powerful being on par with him. Wonderman and I believe count nefaria(Stan and Jack's evil superman) defeated Thor as well. Keep in mind when it comes to gods in both DC and Marvel, they get dumbed down a bit for a reason, but I got a crossover that tops the god of thunder taking on the man of steel....


Fixed... and NO! I WON'T ACCEPT IT! lol. I've seen Silver Surfer beat Thor too. It pisses me off though. I'm a spideyfan more than Thor (or any of the avengers for that matter), but it just doesn't make any sense to me. My problem more than likely stems from my disdain for superman rather than the fact that I like Thor.

mecha-gino wrote:JESUS VS THE GREEK/ROMAN GODS!


But... Jesus doesn't like to hit things! How would he fight them! lol. Twould be pretty awesome though.
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Re: Crossovers

Postby mecha-gino » Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:51 pm

GOD DAMN YOU SEXY! :evil: Hehe, I've been meaning to read that classic fight between Surfer and thor. It was issue 6 of Silver Surfer I believe. And... Rob Liefeld did that crossover and I SOOO want to track it down and give it to Linkara.

There was two crossovers with Batman actually, says the comicvine and what linkara said there's a Youngblood Power Rangers crossover. I REALLY want to read that and the beetle borgs one.

The Supreme/Gladiator one I might of read I'm not to sure but I think I didn't like it but then again this is Liefeld's run on Supreme. There's also one with Pitt and Hulk but it was alright from what I remember.

The TMNT guest appearance in Savage Dragon #1 was pretty cool.
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Re: Crossovers

Postby Hellspawn28 » Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:57 pm

I believe the first time SS and Thor fought when Loki mind control Surfer to stop the Avengers. I believe Surfer fought Thor and Beta Bill Ray as a team as well from what I can remember.

Also I never knew that their was a Youngblood crossover with The Power Rangers. I know a Spawn crossover with Hellboy and Spider-Man where plan but never made for some odd reason.
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Re: Crossovers

Postby Showa Gyaos » Tue Feb 01, 2011 6:03 pm

^The only comic book crossover I have is Batman vs. Spawn.

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Re: Crossovers

Postby Hellspawn28 » Tue Feb 01, 2011 6:08 pm

MG, did you ever read the crossover with Popeye and Pre-Crisis Superman before?
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