Where should he stand? (Hero or Villain)

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What role should Godzilla play?

A hero.
3
6%
A threat to the world.
9
17%
A potential ally.
5
9%
An anti-hero.
34
63%
Other (please specify).
3
6%
 
Total votes : 54

Re: GODZILLA: HERO or VILLAIN?

Postby Desolation MM » Sat Jan 29, 2011 2:55 pm

Anti-Hero like Heisei and early Showa. Should have motivation beyond that of a normal animal (looking at you Millennium films except GMK), but not so much on a human level.
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Re: GODZILLA: HERO or VILLAIN?

Postby KaneLocke » Sat Jan 29, 2011 2:58 pm

Definately looking for the Heisei anti-hero. The idea that he doesn't give a shit about humanity, but the fact that this is HIS territory and anyhow who stomps on it is getting a stomping themselves.
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Re: GODZILLA: HERO or VILLAIN?

Postby Showa Gyaos » Sat Jan 29, 2011 3:41 pm

I made a thread containing the same question:

viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1836

That being said, I want Godzilla to be an anti-hero. For him to be entirely evil is not something I think can be done as well as in GMK.
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Re: GODZILLA: HERO or VILLAIN?

Postby Cinematic Kaiju » Sat Jan 29, 2011 4:25 pm

He should definitely be what he was in the heisei era. I think the majority of us have already agreed upon that.
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Re: GODZILLA: HERO or VILLAIN?

Postby HeiseiGodzilla117 » Sat Jan 29, 2011 6:07 pm

As long as he's a douche-bag who destroys cities and kicks other monsters' asses... I'm good.
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Re: GODZILLA: HERO or VILLAIN?

Postby Bluezilla » Sat Jan 29, 2011 7:00 pm

He should be neutral till he's attacked by the military which makes him angry . Then we should see an evil glint
in his eyes as he annihilates whatever city he's in.
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Re: GODZILLA: HERO or VILLAIN?

Postby Gorosaurus Rex » Sat Jan 29, 2011 7:39 pm

Showa Gyaos wrote:That being said, I want Godzilla to be an anti-hero. For him to be entirely evil is not something I think can be done as well as in GMK.


The best Godzilla is an antihero Godzilla. If we are getting a multimonster film, I can near gurantee thats the Big G we will see.
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Re: GODZILLA: HERO or VILLAIN?

Postby Zilla103192 » Sat Jan 29, 2011 8:55 pm

i dont want him to be the hero, villian or anti-hero...

i want Godzilla (as well as the other monter(s)) to not really notice the humans, and only focus on each other. if attacked by the military, they blow them off and continue with their doings.
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Re: GODZILLA: HERO or VILLAIN?

Postby Tyler » Sun Jan 30, 2011 2:28 pm

To be honest I think the antihero thing has gotten kind of stale. Whether he's good or bad I don't think there should be an inbetween. But liked I said before I'd like to see him start off somewhat Mothra vs. Godzilla then head towards Ghidorah territory.
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Re: GODZILLA: HERO or VILLAIN?

Postby shinmattiathekaiju » Mon Jan 31, 2011 7:27 am

I want Godzilla to start with a ''Return Of Godzilla'''s behavior and then slowly change into Godzilla vs Monster Zero's territory.
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Re: GODZILLA: HERO or VILLAIN?

Postby Desolation MM » Mon Jan 31, 2011 7:14 pm

shinmattiathekaiju wrote:I want Godzilla to start with a ''Return Of Godzilla'''s behavior and then slowly change into Godzilla vs Monster Zero's territory.


So... you want Godzilla to a ruthless, destructive animal that shows no mercy?
That then starts to dance?
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Re: GODZILLA: HERO or VILLAIN?

Postby Gorosaurus Rex » Mon Jan 31, 2011 7:20 pm

Personally, I kind of liked the way Godzilla 2000 did it. Flawed, but its a good transition from monster to hero.
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Re: GODZILLA: HERO or VILLAIN?

Postby HeiseiGodzilla117 » Mon Jan 31, 2011 7:22 pm

Monster Master wrote:So... you want Godzilla to a ruthless, destructive animal that shows no mercy?
That then starts to dance?


YES! Nobody will ever see it coming! And it says something to me... something so... deep. It shows that even the toughest creatures have the heart of a child lurking somewhere inside them. DAMN THAT'S DEEP!

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Re: GODZILLA: HERO or VILLAIN?

Postby shinmattiathekaiju » Mon Jan 31, 2011 11:37 pm

Monster Master wrote:
shinmattiathekaiju wrote:I want Godzilla to start with a ''Return Of Godzilla'''s behavior and then slowly change into Godzilla vs Monster Zero's territory.


So... you want Godzilla to a ruthless, destructive animal that shows no mercy?
That then starts to dance?

i didn't said that i want him to dance but to turns slowly into a more gentle creature.
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Re: GODZILLA: HERO or VILLAIN?

Postby Kubo » Tue Feb 01, 2011 1:37 am

I don't know if I ever like the idea of Godzilla being a villain when another monster is involved. In one way or the other, we all end up rooting for him and he still comes out to be a hero to the earth because he defeats the evil forces from elsewhere (cough, Godzilla Final Wars) So just let him be a hero and save us the trouble of having to call him a villain when he really isn't at this point.
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Re: GODZILLA: HERO or VILLAIN?

Postby Ocean » Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:45 pm

Monster Master wrote:
shinmattiathekaiju wrote:I want Godzilla to start with a ''Return Of Godzilla'''s behavior and then slowly change into Godzilla vs Monster Zero's territory.


So... you want Godzilla to a ruthless, destructive animal that shows no mercy?
That then starts to dance?


Yeah... I was wondering the same thing.

shinmattiathekaiju wrote:i didn't said that i want him to dance but to turns slowly into a more gentle creature.


I could see it I guess. Why?
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Re: GODZILLA: HERO or VILLAIN?

Postby shinmattiathekaiju » Fri Feb 04, 2011 9:32 am

I think Godzilla should be an agressive creature who wants to be let alone while the antagonist monster is a mean creature who kills humans deliberatly.
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Re: GODZILLA: HERO or VILLAIN?

Postby W2daERN » Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:52 pm

I'd rather him start as a villain (destroying cities but not really caring about humans one way or the other), but then going up against a monster that poses a serious threat to the entire planet. Something that I want to be portrayed in this movie is the human cast being conflicted on whether to "root," per se, for Godzilla, since he killed so many people (possibly even tying into whether or not the US was really "good" in WWII since they dropped the atomic bombs). This all leading up to the Crowning Moment of Awesome (for the human characters) when the military decides to back up Godzilla.
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Re: GODZILLA: HERO or VILLAIN?

Postby Silv » Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:04 pm

It all depends to me. If this is just gonna be a one shot deal movie, like with 1998 Godzilla, I probably won't care too much for it, as it would take a full series to really make an impact. I personally wish that they would have finished the Millenium Series before cutting it off and starting Final Wars. I really wanted to see how the story was going to progress and whether Godzilla would finally turn good(and what they had in mind for that Godzilla DNA scene after the credits of Tokyo SOS). But alas, we will never know.

So seeing as this will definitely not be a continuation of the Mil series... well... if it's going to spawn a neiw series of films(which is what I'm praying for) then Godzilla HAS to start out as bad and then slowly turn good. Ooooor.... since we have seen that happen twice already(and was probably going to happen a third time if the M Series was properly finished), how about they throw a new curve ball at us. This time have Godzilla start out as a boy scout defender of Earth, and as the series progresses, through some catalyzing event, he gets pissed off with humanity for abusing him, and then turns on us, forcing us to have to create or turn to other kaiju to try and stop him. Eh? That would be a pretty fresh idea.
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Re: GODZILLA: HERO or VILLAIN?

Postby KaneLocke » Sat Feb 05, 2011 1:25 pm

W2daERN wrote:I'd rather him start as a villain (destroying cities but not really caring about humans one way or the other), but then going up against a monster that poses a serious threat to the entire planet. Something that I want to be portrayed in this movie is the human cast being conflicted on whether to "root," per se, for Godzilla, since he killed so many people (possibly even tying into whether or not the US was really "good" in WWII since they dropped the atomic bombs). This all leading up to the Crowning Moment of Awesome (for the human characters) when the military decides to back up Godzilla.

In other words, Godzilla 2000 with some Godzilla vs. Destroyah for flavoring.
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Re: GODZILLA: HERO or VILLAIN?

Postby shinmattiathekaiju » Sat Feb 05, 2011 2:32 pm

W2daERN wrote:I'd rather him start as a villain (destroying cities but not really caring about humans one way or the other), but then going up against a monster that poses a serious threat to the entire planet. Something that I want to be portrayed in this movie is the human cast being conflicted on whether to "root," per se, for Godzilla, since he killed so many people (possibly even tying into whether or not the US was really "good" in WWII since they dropped the atomic bombs). This all leading up to the Crowning Moment of Awesome (for the human characters) when the military decides to back up Godzilla.

That was my point! :D
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