Gorosaurus's bio on the main site, split or not?

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Split Goro's monster bio in two?

Yes, it will reduce confusion during discussions
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No, it is not necessary
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No, let newbies figure it out on their own
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Maybe, depends if the staff is interested or not
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Undecided
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Gorosaurus's bio on the main site, split or not?

Postby alienhulk2099 » Sun Jan 23, 2011 9:06 am

Since the big debate of two different Gorosauruses has gone on for a while, KKE not being canon to the showa Godzilla timeline, and the obvious size difference, should the Gorosaurus bio on the main site be split like what Anthony did with Varan and Baragon? Those two weren't really mentioned much although before the split it was obvious many people including myself thought they survived their first movies and said versions were the ones in DAM. Goro's issue on the other hand has been mentioned several times and is debated among fans, so why not make a poll to see what everyone prefers?

Me personally? I go for a split, that way both versions can be discussed easier and with less confusion, especially when newbies will come to the site.
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Re: Gorosaurus's bio on the main site, split or not?

Postby Arbok » Sun Jan 23, 2011 9:33 am

Consider it as two monsters of the same species, ala the two Rodans in 1956.

Gorosaurus is really his own exception. He is obviously bigger in DAM than he is in King Kong Escapes actually looking at him in contrast to his surroundings, but everything states it's the same stats... so the bios are lumped together.
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Re: Gorosaurus's bio on the main site, split or not?

Postby KaijuX » Tue Jan 25, 2011 5:19 pm

Arbok wrote:Consider it as two monsters of the same species, ala the two Rodans in 1956.

Gorosaurus is really his own exception. He is obviously bigger in DAM than he is in King Kong Escapes actually looking at him in contrast to his surroundings, but everything states it's the same stats... so the bios are lumped together.


Though of course the skin of the DAM Gorosaurus is different from the KKE Gorosaurus. KKE is green, whilst DAM Gorosaurus is blue. But given that everything else is practically the same... And also given on how small the bios are writen... But that's not the bio writer's fault, that's the fault of Toho themselves for having not-as-big/small roles to him.
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Re: Gorosaurus's bio on the main site, split or not?

Postby King Caesar » Tue Jan 25, 2011 6:16 pm

^ i agree with both...there's no need. Either movie is Gorosaurus, both movies he has the same powers (different measurements though). Maybe there is a connection between the KKE Goro and the DAM Goro. Maybe he got bigger in the 32 year-span...
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Re: Gorosaurus's bio on the main site, split or not?

Postby Hellspawn28 » Tue Jan 25, 2011 8:12 pm

Well Anguirus in 1955 and 1972-1999 are not the same monster neither, but they both share the same profile.
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Re: Gorosaurus's bio on the main site, split or not?

Postby King Caesar » Wed Jan 26, 2011 4:09 am

There was no Anguiras in the Heisei era...and there was no significant changes to his suit or color scheme so he can't be divided into separate generations. Like the Millennium Godzilla has different forms in every freaking movie, so it's only logical to make multiple generations for him

As for Godzilla in the Heisei between GvB and GvKG, I'm not sure. I mean, both come from Godzillasaurus and are spawned by nuclear radiation...
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Re: Gorosaurus's bio on the main site, split or not?

Postby Godzillatheultimate » Wed Jan 26, 2011 5:49 am

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Re: Gorosaurus's bio on the main site, split or not?

Postby W2daERN » Thu Jan 27, 2011 3:30 am

King Caesar wrote:As for Godzilla in the Heisei between GvB and GvKG, I'm not sure. I mean, both come from Godzillasaurus and are spawned by nuclear radiation...


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Re: Gorosaurus's bio on the main site, split or not?

Postby Ethan » Thu Jan 27, 2011 2:38 pm

The only reason why Gorosaurus is bigger in Destroy all Monsters is because Toho pretty used every prop and suit that was available for filming, scaling was not an issue. A separate bio is pointless, given that people can tell the difference by just looking at the films.
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Re: Gorosaurus's bio on the main site, split or not?

Postby Legion1979 » Thu Jan 27, 2011 2:49 pm

Ethan wrote:The only reason why Gorosaurus is bigger in Destroy all Monsters is because Toho pretty used every prop and suit that was available for filming, scaling was not an issue. A separate bio is pointless, given that people can tell the difference by just looking at the films.


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Re: Gorosaurus's bio on the main site, split or not?

Postby wataru » Thu Jan 27, 2011 2:53 pm

Legion1979 wrote:
Ethan wrote:The only reason why Gorosaurus is bigger in Destroy all Monsters is because Toho pretty used every prop and suit that was available for filming, scaling was not an issue. A separate bio is pointless, given that people can tell the difference by just looking at the films.


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Re: Gorosaurus's bio on the main site, split or not?

Postby Stuckey » Thu Jan 27, 2011 3:18 pm

You could just say that it was an adolescent Gorosaurus in KKE and by the time DAM rolls around he's all grow'd up. :)
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Re: Gorosaurus's bio on the main site, split or not?

Postby alienhulk2099 » Thu Jan 27, 2011 3:20 pm

I guess it is pretty pointless to keep this around then, huh?
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Re: Gorosaurus's bio on the main site, split or not?

Postby Tyler » Thu Jan 27, 2011 4:28 pm

I never though King Kong Escapes was connected to Destroy All Monsters or the Godzilla series for that matter. Goro in DAM is just a different version all together. Same with Manda and some other monsters.
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Re: Gorosaurus's bio on the main site, split or not?

Postby JVM » Thu Jan 27, 2011 5:54 pm

Toho couldn't give a shit about continuity. I question if they even do now.

A separate bio? I can go either way. Varan and Baragon got separate ones and technically those weren't needed either, though the suits and props had been modified while Goro had not.
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Re: Gorosaurus's bio on the main site, split or not?

Postby Arbok » Thu Jan 27, 2011 5:59 pm

JVM wrote:A separate bio? I can go either way. Varan and Baragon got separate ones and technically those weren't needed either, though the suits and props had been modified while Goro had not.


Varan and Baragon got different bios because they are at different sizes in those movies. According to Toho, the Gorosaurus in DAM is the same size as the one in King Kong Escapes... so that's why they have the same bio.

Rodan would have gotten a split bio as well on the site, due to his wingspan... except that it actually grows in-between Ghidorah, the Three-Headed Monster and Invasion of Astro-Monster. So there was no real good place to split it.
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Re: Gorosaurus's bio on the main site, split or not?

Postby alienhulk2099 » Thu Jan 27, 2011 6:23 pm

According to Toho, the Gorosaurus in DAM is the same size as the one in King Kong Escapes... so that's why they have the same bio.

This is kind of the reason I thought people might want a bio split, in DAM Goro's at least 40 meters tall when you compare him to Godzilla.
Rodan would have gotten a split bio as well on the site, due to his wingspan... except that it actually grows in-between Ghidorah, the Three-Headed Monster and Invasion of Astro-Monster. So there was no real good place to split it.

I take it that is less consistent than the third generation showa Mothra larva? (which makes me wonder why is there a split between them? Did Toho really state a 13 meter/2,000 ton difference between the two?) I also take it we can't just use the official wingspan.
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Re: Gorosaurus's bio on the main site, split or not?

Postby Primevalgodzilla V2 » Thu Jan 27, 2011 9:52 pm

Firstly, its not really important save for FM discussions. Secondly, TK only puts up official stats. Toho hasn't seen the need to make a differencer between KKE and DAM Goro, so I don't see why should we.
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Re: Gorosaurus's bio on the main site, split or not?

Postby KaneLocke » Fri Jan 28, 2011 2:02 am

alienhulk2099 wrote:
According to Toho, the Gorosaurus in DAM is the same size as the one in King Kong Escapes... so that's why they have the same bio.

This is kind of the reason I thought people might want a bio split, in DAM Goro's at least 40 meters tall when you compare him to Godzilla.

Wait, wait... are YOU the one always bringing this stuff up in FMs? And wasn't it addressed there numerous times as well?

If OFFICIAL TOHO MATERIAL states that he is 35 meters tall, regardless of how it appears on film, then he's 35 meters tall. In the case of films, perception is not reality.
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Re: Gorosaurus's bio on the main site, split or not?

Postby wataru » Fri Jan 28, 2011 4:39 am

KaneLocke wrote:
alienhulk2099 wrote:
According to Toho, the Gorosaurus in DAM is the same size as the one in King Kong Escapes... so that's why they have the same bio.

This is kind of the reason I thought people might want a bio split, in DAM Goro's at least 40 meters tall when you compare him to Godzilla.

Wait, wait... are YOU the one always bringing this stuff up in FMs? And wasn't it addressed there numerous times as well?

If OFFICIAL TOHO MATERIAL states that he is 35 meters tall, regardless of how it appears on film, then he's 35 meters tall. In the case of films, perception is not reality.


Would this also apply to Gwangi? Because Gwangi's level of fanboy epicness is based on the perception of it's skills on screen.
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