How can this possibly go wrong?

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How can this possibly go wrong?

Postby JVM » Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:52 pm

So here's the idea.

What would just ruin this movie for you? What kind of changes, deviations, themes, would just tell you, 'okay, Legendary skreeonk up'? What kind of flaws are you expecting? What do you think Legendary should absolutely avoid doing at all costs? What should they not even touch?
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Re: How can this possibly go wrong?

Postby Ethan » Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:54 pm

There's 3 ways this film can suck:
1) It could be another GINO.
2) It could be too "dark" and "cerebral".
3) It could be a 2-hour commercial with racist humor.
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Re: How can this possibly go wrong?

Postby JVM » Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:56 pm

^ Define 'another GINO'

Different people have different reasonings why they don't like it, always consensus is always that it was a good/meh/bad movie, but nowhere near a half-assed Godzilla movie.
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Re: How can this possibly go wrong?

Postby Ethan » Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:01 pm

How could I define it? Another film that uses the name of a monster which doesn't appear in the film. Another film that fails to impress the mainstream audience.
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Re: How can this possibly go wrong?

Postby Jomei » Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:20 pm

Basically I see two possibilities.

1) Bad representation of Godzilla. This was GINO's biggest fault, but not its only one. I think we all understand that this film needs a Godzilla that stays true to the Japanese one. This leaves a lot of room for variation, but it can't be another GINO where we have a creature that bears almost no resemblance to Godzilla in either appearance or character.

2) Bad story-telling. Think: weak characters, a cliché story, overly focused on explosions without much in the way of substance.
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Re: How can this possibly go wrong?

Postby Tohosaurus » Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:22 pm

^ All that.
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Re: How can this possibly go wrong?

Postby Living Corpse » Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:24 pm

Even if LP fails I think it's safe to assume no matter how bad the film is it's not gonna be anywhere near as bad as Godzilla 98. They know why people hated that film, I'm sure they would not repeat that mistake again.
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Re: How can this possibly go wrong?

Postby Ethan » Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:24 pm

Living Corpse wrote:Even if LP fails I think it's safe to assume no matter how bad the film is it's not gonna be anywhere near as bad as Godzilla 98.

With effort, it can be.
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Re: How can this possibly go wrong?

Postby Jomei » Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:26 pm

Living Corpse wrote:Even if LP fails I think it's safe to assume no matter how bad the film is it's not gonna be anywhere near as bad as Godzilla 98. They know why people hated that film, I'm sure they would not repeat that mistake again.


I think so too. I'll feel a lot more confident when some more news starts to come out... especially concept art. Even a mediocre Godzilla film that at least gets the character right (like, for example, Godzilla vs Megaguirus) would make me very happy.
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Re: How can this possibly go wrong?

Postby SpanishBulldog63 » Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:32 pm

Jomei wrote:
2) Bad story-telling. Think: weak characters, a cliché story, overly focused on explosions without much in the way of substance.


So basically a Michael Bay film?
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Re: How can this possibly go wrong?

Postby Gawdziller » Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:32 pm

Three words that can destroy any movie:

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Re: How can this possibly go wrong?

Postby Living Corpse » Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:33 pm

Why did I know Michal's name was gonna be brought up when I saw reason number 2?
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Re: How can this possibly go wrong?

Postby ゴジラ » Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:47 pm

What will ruin the film for me:

1. Godzilla, he's a male....But he's also pregnant.
2. Godzilla killed off by missiles, or killed off in general (Though I know this won't most likely happen)
3. Godzilla runs away from the military
4. Godzilla has no atomic ray
5. If the film turned out similar to TF Revenge of the Fallen

That's pretty much it for me.
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Re: How can this possibly go wrong?

Postby Living Corpse » Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:14 pm

^ I remember your reaction or at least your post describing your reaction to watching GINO for the first time with a friend. It was like watching someone see their childhood hero being dragged through the mud.
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Re: How can this possibly go wrong?

Postby TheSecondComing » Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:35 pm

There's literally a million ways it can go wrong. The one to be concerned about now is this: the project gets canceled entirely.

Really, there isn't a script and all we know is there's a director attached. Let's not doom and gloom yet.
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Re: How can this possibly go wrong?

Postby JVM » Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:12 am

TheSecondComing wrote:There's literally a million ways it can go wrong. The one to be concerned about now is this: the project gets canceled entirely.

Really, there isn't a script and all we know is there's a director attached. Let's not doom and gloom yet.

Not all of us are worried about that.
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Re: How can this possibly go wrong?

Postby GodzillaIsCool » Wed Apr 25, 2012 2:57 am

A movie with characters that don't blend in with Godzilla sequences. Making it like there are two different movies going on.

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If it is like Wrath of the Titans I will be frustrated. Moving from one sequence to another without giving the illusion that time has gone by from traveling from one place to another.

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Horribly filmed shaky cam action sequences. I have had enough of that now.
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Re: How can this possibly go wrong?

Postby shinmattiathekaiju » Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:39 pm

JVM wrote:So here's the idea.

What would just ruin this movie for you? What kind of changes, deviations, themes, would just tell you, 'okay, Legendary skreeonk up'? What kind of flaws are you expecting? What do you think Legendary should absolutely avoid doing at all costs? What should they not even touch?


Another GINO movie.

Or a dull movie like the Ghost Rider films.

Or a movie made in the style of Bayformers.


They know why people hated that film, I'm sure they would not repeat that mistake again.


They also showed respect for the character unlike Dean ''Godzilla is a lumbering Frankenstein down the street'' Devlin.
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Re: How can this possibly go wrong?

Postby tenup » Wed Apr 25, 2012 8:55 pm

1. If this movie ends up being too American for example having an all american cast for the main characters and plot.
2. Too much focus on love interest between two of the main characters.
3. If LP continues to withhold information related to this film and the same 3 threads remain bumped on this forum.
4. Godzilla is green and has red eyes.
5. A music video featuring P Diddy
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Re: How can this possibly go wrong?

Postby XxComablack1937xX » Wed Apr 25, 2012 9:11 pm

#1. The movie doesn't show enough of Godzilla
#2. Godzilla is not portrayed correctly in both actions an appearances
#3. bad dialog
#4. Annoying character's
#5. Takes itself to seriously and ends up being boring or not being serious enough that it ends up like a big joke of a film
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