Godzilla gets a new writer again (Max Borenstein)

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Re: Godzilla gets a new writer again (Max Borenstein)

Postby Living Corpse » Wed Nov 16, 2011 9:03 am

Primevalgodzilla V2 wrote:I can't say that Toho having so much control behind this is fully a good thing. Any decent director will know how to respect the source material, and if the director isn;t decent the film will suck regardless of how much Toho controls it. If anything Toho breathing down the director's back will hurt the film, like with GMK. Set some regulations, but give the dirctor freedom to play with the mythos.


I get what you are saying but can you blame them after what happened with Tri-Star? Last time Toho gave rules and they were completely ignored. This time Toho is enforcing them and using Banno as a watch dog to give them constant updates so they can change anything they disagree with before it's too late. It does slow down production, it does cause a lot of stress but if it means preventing someone from pulling a similar stunt that D&E pulled and giving us a Godzilla film that actually looks, feels and acts like Godzilla then I say the wait and stress will be worth it in the end. Eventually.
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Re: Godzilla gets a new writer again (Max Borenstein)

Postby zilla103192 » Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:00 pm

anyone else find it really weird that Toho flat out told Banno he would never work on a Godzilla movie ever again, yet they trusted him as the watchdog over the biggest coin flip they do?
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Re: Godzilla gets a new writer again (Max Borenstein)

Postby Living Corpse » Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:06 pm

zilla103192 wrote:anyone else find it really weird that Toho flat out told Banno he would never work on a Godzilla movie ever again, yet they trusted him as the watchdog over the biggest coin flip they do?


Why? He doesn't get any say in what happens, just report all changes in the plan. They only threat he could pose is if he decides to not report shit which come on, you know he will continue to just report stuff since this is the closest he get's to work with a G project.
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Re: Godzilla gets a new writer again (Max Borenstein)

Postby Hellspawn28 » Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:48 pm

zilla103192 wrote:I was jsut pointing out to HS when he said those 2 movies are terrible, that that is only his opinion.


Those movies where not very good in a critical point of view. I didn't mind The Flintstones but the movie went through so many drafts until the movie was finally release in 1994. The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen was in development hell since the early 90's and the film was critically panned with a 17% on Rotten Tomatoes, the whole movie was a total train wreck. Alan Moore hated it, both Stephen Norrington and Sean Connery stop working in the film industry after this film.
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Re: Godzilla gets a new writer again (Max Borenstein)

Postby TokyoVigilante » Wed Nov 16, 2011 8:09 pm

zilla103192 wrote:anyone else find it really weird that Toho flat out told Banno he would never work on a Godzilla movie ever again, yet they trusted him as the watchdog over the biggest coin flip they do?

That was a long time ago and it was the decision of Tomoyuki Tanaka. Toho isn't one to uphold the unofficially sanctioned grudge of a deceased producer, especially when there's money to be made.
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Re: Godzilla gets a new writer again (Max Borenstein)

Postby Chris55 » Wed Nov 16, 2011 9:44 pm

zilla103192 wrote:anyone else find it really weird that Toho flat out told Banno he would never work on a Godzilla movie ever again, yet they trusted him as the watchdog over the biggest coin flip they do?


That was 40 years ago. Times have changed. different executives etc.
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Re: Godzilla gets a new writer again (Max Borenstein)

Postby Living Corpse » Wed Nov 16, 2011 10:08 pm

Chris55 wrote:
zilla103192 wrote:anyone else find it really weird that Toho flat out told Banno he would never work on a Godzilla movie ever again, yet they trusted him as the watchdog over the biggest coin flip they do?


That was 40 years ago. Times have changed. different executives etc.


Did Banno ever get a formal apology about that or is it something he just let forget and forgive?
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Re: Godzilla gets a new writer again (Max Borenstein)

Postby Blackout286 » Wed Nov 16, 2011 10:18 pm

Living Corpse wrote:
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zilla103192 wrote:anyone else find it really weird that Toho flat out told Banno he would never work on a Godzilla movie ever again, yet they trusted him as the watchdog over the biggest coin flip they do?


That was 40 years ago. Times have changed. different executives etc.


Did Banno ever get a formal apology about that or is it something he just let forget and forgive?


He probably let it all go but did not forgive IMO.
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Re: Godzilla gets a new writer again (Max Borenstein)

Postby Hellspawn28 » Wed Nov 16, 2011 10:18 pm

Tomoyuki Tanaka was the one that hated Godzilla vs. Hedorah (1971). Godzilla vs. Hedorah got good reviews when it came out and it's not that bad of a film. Banno is the only Showa director that is still alive and I trust him as a watch dog.
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Re: Godzilla gets a new writer again (Max Borenstein)

Postby miguelnuva » Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:23 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:Tomoyuki Tanaka was the one that hated Godzilla vs. Hedorah (1971). Godzilla vs. Hedorah got good reviews when it came out and it's not that bad of a film. Banno is the only Showa director that is still alive and I trust him as a watch dog.


If Tanaka hates Hedorah which goji flims does he like.
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Re: Godzilla gets a new writer again (Max Borenstein)

Postby Living Corpse » Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:30 pm

Blackout286 wrote:
Living Corpse wrote:
Did Banno ever get a formal apology about that or is it something he just let forget and forgive?


He probably let it all go but did not forgive IMO.


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What a shame. :cry:
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Re: Godzilla gets a new writer again (Max Borenstein)

Postby Primevalgodzilla V2 » Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:39 am

I get what you are saying but can you blame them after what happened with Tri-Star? Last time Toho gave rules and they were completely ignored. This time Toho is enforcing them and using Banno as a watch dog to give them constant updates so they can change anything they disagree with before it's too late. It does slow down production, it does cause a lot of stress but if it means preventing someone from pulling a similar stunt that D&E pulled and giving us a Godzilla film that actually looks, feels and acts like Godzilla then I say the wait and stress will be worth it in the end. Eventually.


If the directore did intend to respect Toho's mythos from the start- as anyone in the right mind would, especially after the Emmerich fiasco- but Toho' breathing down on their necks damaged the quality of the film ala GMK, or worse still, gabe us something completely uninspired, it will be anything but worth it.
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Re: Godzilla gets a new writer again (Max Borenstein)

Postby XxComablack1937xX » Thu Nov 17, 2011 2:06 am

People are speculating a bit much in this ''Toho breathing down Legendary's necks'' we don't even know why another writer was hired.. I could have nothing to do with Toho an more to do with Thomas Tull not being satisfied with the script yet. He has said Godzilla is one of his personal passions so why would he expect anything less?

Then again this might not have anything to do with him, Maybe they scrapped Callaham's script entirely (which isn't out of the question he sucks) an had Goyer write the first draft an then this writer to write the second draft. We really don't know.

If anything Toho gave more specific guidelines to follow an Banno is making sure there done right. I'm sure Legendary knew what they were getting into getting the right's to Godzilla, an don't blame Toho for being strict on there guidelines. It's no different then Marvel with there properties, There strict as hell but most of there films turn a profit.

Toho were to giving the last time an they got screwed, it's expected that there gonna tighter on this films production.
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Re: Godzilla gets a new writer again (Max Borenstein)

Postby tenup » Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:17 am

Would be nice to get an interview with David Goyer now that he's off the project. Although I'm sure he won't be allowed to reveal much it would be interesting to get some information on the direction of this project from him. Also why was he let go?
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Re: Godzilla gets a new writer again (Max Borenstein)

Postby zilla103192 » Fri Nov 18, 2011 1:18 pm

Nobody knows exactly what happened. He might of not even been let go, he might of done his alterations to the script and moved on.
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Re: Godzilla gets a new writer again (Max Borenstein)

Postby Living Corpse » Fri Nov 18, 2011 1:26 pm

tenup wrote:Would be nice to get an interview with David Goyer now that he's off the project. Although I'm sure he won't be allowed to reveal much it would be interesting to get some information on the direction of this project from him. Also why was he let go?


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Where are you getting this info that he's been "let go"? :eh:
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Re: Godzilla gets a new writer again (Max Borenstein)

Postby Killswitch » Sat Nov 19, 2011 10:33 am

Toho doesn't have as much control as some of you may think. Is Toho investing millions of dollars into this project? No!

LP/WB have all the control, and all Toho is doing is making sure LP/WB is living up to the agreements. Which it seems from several interviews, that we are going to see a new version of the "real" Toho Godzilla, not some silly lizard like we saw in 1998.

I think LP is a very good company, but I am still not thrilled about the team behind this picture. I really wanted to see a bigger name involved.
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Re: Godzilla gets a new writer again (Max Borenstein)

Postby Living Corpse » Sat Nov 19, 2011 12:50 pm

Killswitch wrote:Toho doesn't have as much control as some of you may think. Is Toho investing millions of dollars into this project? No!

LP/WB have all the control, and all Toho is doing is making sure LP/WB is living up to the agreements. Which it seems from several interviews, that we are going to see a new version of the "real" Toho Godzilla, not some silly lizard like we saw in 1998.

I think LP is a very good company, but I am still not thrilled about the team behind this picture. I really wanted to see a bigger name involved.


I trust LP and WB a lot more then I do Sony and Tri-Star. I'll tell you that much.
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Re: Godzilla gets a new writer again (Max Borenstein)

Postby Chris55 » Sat Nov 19, 2011 2:58 pm

Killswitch wrote:Toho doesn't have as much control as some of you may think. Is Toho investing millions of dollars into this project? No!



LP is PAYING for the rights to use Godzilla. With that, comes Toho's rules.
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Re: Godzilla gets a new writer again (Max Borenstein)

Postby GodzillaIsCool » Sun Nov 20, 2011 3:51 am

Chris go work on the movie. Be our mole.
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